What happens when there is no 'Gun Grab'??

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What happen's when there is no 'Gun Grab'??

A year from now, when every law-abiding citizen who owns gun still owns his gun, still purchases ammunition from the same dealer in the same manner, still goes target shooting or hunting with his son, still feels safe with the gun he purchased for self-defense, what happens then??

What happens a year from now when the majority of gun owners still have their carry permits, their concealed weapon permits, or other state and local permits for firearms?

What will the NRA claim then? "It's all-part of Obama's double secret Gun Grab agenda to take place after he leaves office."

What will the paranoid freaks and nutters listening to Drudge, Limbaugh, or Jones say then?... when NO legal guns have been 'grabbed'.

What will be your hyperbolically insane talking point then, when no 'Gun Grab' happens? Will you feel disappointed or let down because the black man didn't try for your guns? Will you feel cheated that there was no civil war, no race riot, no conflict at all between the federal government and law-abiding gun owners?

What happens when congress passes no 'gun grab' legislation, just a bill that promotes a respectful exchange of information between mental health professional and law enforcement?? --a method that does not stigmatize the patient, but keeps potentially dangerous patients safe from harming themselves or others by notifying law enforcement when a serious diagnosis is made?

What happens when the AFT is tasked with working with local law enforcement to better track guns moving from legal ownership to illegal possession? What happens when the focus is on criminals who purchase firearms for the sole purpose of moving them up I-95 and selling specifically on the black market? -- No Gun Grab, just a more focused effort at curbing illegal gun trafficking. (you read about it in the papers, but no one ever comes to your house because you follow the law)

What happens when your neighbor who has a criminal record is arrested for domestic violence and the Sheriff takes all firearms out of his house? Is that a "Gun Grab"!!?? But wait, he wasn't supposed to have them in the first place... hmmm. Still a gun grab??

What happens when the AFT and FBI update their NICS reporting procedures and systems to better facilitate prompt and accurate reporting from the states?? What happens when you're not on this list because you're a law-abiding gun owner and no one ever comes to your house to take your guns??

What happens when your at a gun show and your favorite dealer asks you to fill out a new form or show him your state carry permit (which assumes you've already been cleared). Minutes after filling out the form, you purchase anything you want? What happens then? Will you scream "infringement" after you get to purchase exactly what you came to purchase?

What happens when your daughter gets a restraining order against her ex-husband and the Sheriff is able to quickly check records via a new and improved computer system and see that her ex owns 2 more handguns than he claims and an assault riffle--purchased in another state.... When the Sheriff takes his guns away, will you scream Gun Grab!! -- Not your gun or your daughter's gun, the ex-husband?? Will you bitch about a tiny tax on ammunition to pay for the new computer system that flagged your daughters ex-husband as having purchased guns out of state??

And, oh God no... what if, what if you wanted to sell your AR-15, and in order to do so, you had to ask to see the buyer's state carry permit (or some documentation that he had been cleared by NICS) AND, God forbid, you also had to fill out a transfer of ownership form similar to a pink slip that shows the AR-15 no longer belongs to you???!!! Filling out the form takes 1 minute 46 seconds of your time. He pays you for the AR-15 and leaves. But you'll never get that extra 2 minutes back. Will you scream Infringement of my rights!!!??

What happens when a schizophrenic goes off his meds and attempts to purchase 3000 rounds on the internet, thus setting off a red flag preventing the purchase from going through and notifying local law enforcement and a social worker to pay him a visit? They talk him into entering an inpatient program and getting back on his meds and he never carries out the plan to massacre the shopping mall where your wife and children shop. Your life doesn't change one bit. You enjoy next Christmas with your family while a mentally ill man gets the help he needs.

What happens when laws on the books are enforced in a more intelligent and thoughtful manner, curbing the flow of weapons to the cities?

What happens when your worst fears are not realized? What happens when your erection of paranoia goes flaccid?

What happens when you can't remember where you buried all the extra ammo your bought after Obama was re-elected?
 
The gun shop owners and related manufacturers will be depressed if that threat goes away. If I was in that industry I would be rooting for a Democrat President and a Republican majority House and the Senate pretty much the way it is.
 
If it doesn't happen, I figure we've won the battle for now.

Would you complain about having to fill out an extra form or a small tax on ammo that goes more efficient tracking of criminal gun trafficking?
 
What happen's when there is no 'Gun Grab'??

A year from now, when every law-abiding citizen who owns gun still owns his gun, still purchases ammunition from the same dealer in the same manner, still goes target shooting or hunting with his son, still feels safe with the gun he purchased for self-defense, what happens then??

We'll all still be alive, and we aren't going to see some kind of apocalyptic nationwide slaughter by all these gun owning individuals.
 
We return to being vigilant in protecting our rights.

There really isn't some secret agenda by gun owners. I wish I could say the same about willing government slaves.
 
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Well, they'll have to come up with something...


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There is no gun grab now but that hasn't stopped the nutters from spreading lies. Its a tried and true thing for the right so I don't see them suddenly going for FACTS or TRUTH.

Facts and truth doesn't serve their agenda.

IOW, nothing will change.
 
What happen's when there is no 'Gun Grab'??

A year from now, when every law-abiding citizen who owns gun still owns his gun, still purchases ammunition from the same dealer in the same manner, still goes target shooting or hunting with his son, still feels safe with the gun he purchased for self-defense, what happens then??

What happens a year from now when the majority of gun owners still have their carry permits, their concealed weapon permits, or other state and local permits for firearms?

What will the NRA claim then? "It's all-part of Obama's double secret Gun Grab agenda to take place after he leaves office."

What will the paranoid freaks and nutters listening to Drudge, Limbaugh, or Jones say then?... when NO legal guns have been 'grabbed'.

What will be your hyperbolically insane talking point then, when no 'Gun Grab' happens? Will you feel disappointed or let down because the black man didn't try for your guns? Will you feel cheated that there was no civil war, no race riot, no conflict at all between the federal government and law-abiding gun owners?

What happens when congress passes no 'gun grab' legislation, just a bill that promotes a respectful exchange of information between mental health professional and law enforcement?? --a method that does not stigmatize the patient, but keeps potentially dangerous patients safe from harming themselves or others by notifying law enforcement when a serious diagnosis is made?

What happens when the AFT is tasked with working with local law enforcement to better track guns moving from legal ownership to illegal possession? What happens when the focus is on criminals who purchase firearms for the sole purpose of moving them up I-95 and selling specifically on the black market? -- No Gun Grab, just a more focused effort at curbing illegal gun trafficking. (you read about it in the papers, but no one ever comes to your house because you follow the law)

What happens when your neighbor who has a criminal record is arrested for domestic violence and the Sheriff takes all firearms out of his house? Is that a "Gun Grab"!!?? But wait, he wasn't supposed to have them in the first place... hmmm. Still a gun grab??

What happens when the AFT and FBI update their NICS reporting procedures and systems to better facilitate prompt and accurate reporting from the states?? What happens when you're not on this list because you're a law-abiding gun owner and no one ever comes to your house to take your guns??

What happens when your at a gun show and your favorite dealer asks you to fill out a new form or show him your state carry permit (which assumes you've already been cleared). Minutes after filling out the form, you purchase anything you want? What happens then? Will you scream "infringement" after you get to purchase exactly what you came to purchase?

What happens when your daughter gets a restraining order against her ex-husband and the Sheriff is able to quickly check records via a new and improved computer system and see that her ex owns 2 more handguns than he claims and an assault riffle--purchased in another state.... When the Sheriff takes his guns away, will you scream Gun Grab!! -- Not your gun or your daughter's gun, the ex-husband?? Will you bitch about a tiny tax on ammunition to pay for the new computer system that flagged your daughters ex-husband as having purchased guns out of state??

And, oh God no... what if, what if you wanted to sell your AR-15, and in order to do so, you had to ask to see the buyer's state carry permit (or some documentation that he had been cleared by NICS) AND, God forbid, you also had to fill out a transfer of ownership form similar to a pink slip that shows the AR-15 no longer belongs to you???!!! Filling out the form takes 1 minute 46 seconds of your time. He pays you for the AR-15 and leaves. But you'll never get that extra 2 minutes back. Will you scream Infringement of my rights!!!??

What happens when a schizophrenic goes off his meds and attempts to purchase 3000 rounds on the internet, thus setting off a red flag preventing the purchase from going through and notifying local law enforcement and a social worker to pay him a visit? They talk him into entering an inpatient program and getting back on his meds and he never carries out the plan to massacre the shopping mall where your wife and children shop. Your life doesn't change one bit. You enjoy next Christmas with your family while a mentally ill man gets the help he needs.

What happens when laws on the books are enforced in a more intelligent and thoughtful manner, curbing the flow of weapons to the cities?

What happens when your worst fears are not realized? What happens when your erection of paranoia goes flaccid?

What happens when you can't remember where you buried all the extra ammo your bought after Obama was re-elected?

We'll have won, that's what.

And what social media site or email did you steal that from, because I know you don't possess the brain power to have made that all up yourself?
 
But asking someone to show photo ID at the voting booth is an infringement of their "right to vote" amiright?

False analogy.

**No Public Safety Issue with Voting.

A dozen states have legal photo ID laws on the books. Other states tried to enact last-minute laws that would have disenfranchised certain minorities--those laws were either struck down or extended until a reasonable period for voters to acquire proper ID.

If you're against any background checks at all, then you're on the fringie-fringe. Wa-aaay out there.

If you're so goddamn paranoid that you can't even show an ID when purchasing a firearm so the goddamn dealer can make sure he's not selling to a criminal or mental patient.

How fucking selfish can you be??
 
when NO legal guns have been 'grabbed'.

Define Legal? As in Guns that are legal now or as in what Guns maybe legal a year from now?

The status of a particular model or make of gun NEVER changes.


Legal guns are owned by law-abiding citizens.

Illegal guns are possessed by person(s):

  • Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year
  • Is under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year
  • Is a fugitive from justice
  • Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance
  • Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution
  • Is illegally or unlawfully in the United States
  • Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions
  • Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced U.S. citizenship
  • Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner
  • Has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence

It's pretty straight forward.
 
We return to being vigilant in protecting our rights.

There really isn't some secret agenda by gun owners. I wish I could say the same about willing government slaves.

So, when nothing changes that directly effects you (assuming you're a law-abiding gun owner) then what will be your excuse?

What will you rage about then?
 

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