What happened to the tea party?

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White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.
 
The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?
 
The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?

Excellent point. Thank you.
 
The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?
Yep. I think they were folded into the Trumpsters and just have to keep their mouths shut about their core principle, fiscal responsibility.

Hey, it's politics, nothing wrong with a few tons of hypocrisy here and there.
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So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.



Got any actual example of that? Or do you just think of all white people as one entity?

Name one Republican who has complained about the size of the deficit since Trump was elected. Just one. Paul Ryan was speaker of the House for two years. Not one whimper.
 
Conservative republicans are phonies their people are the rich and the corporations, they play their base as fools and so far it is working. One must wonder why republican voters are so easily used? Is it just racism? Or are they uneducated too? Or all of the above. Sad.

"Trillion Dollar Trump?” “Deficit Don?....With a new bipartisan budget deal that does nothing to cut federal spending, Trump is on track for another $1 trillion deficit this year. " Deficit Don? Red ink gushes in Trump era

"This is when the Republican Party set its trap. Meeting in closed sessions at the beginning of the Obama regime, the party of tax cuts for the rich, unfunded wars, and the largest deficit in the history of the country redefined itself. It suddenly became the party of deficit reduction through lean government joined to supreme confidence in unregulated financial and corporate markets. It even opposed the bail out of General Motors and Chrysler, though these actions stopped unemployment from reaching a dangerous tipping point, allowed the two companies time to reconstruct themselves, and enabled them to pay back the loans within two years–-creating one of the most successful bailouts in the history of Euro-American economic life." The Republican Pincer Machine ~ The Contemporary Condition
 
The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?
Yep. I think they were folded into the Trumpsters and just have to keep their mouths shut about their core principle, fiscal responsibility.

Hey, it's politics, nothing wrong with a few tons of hypocrisy here and there.
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Mac, The OP has a point...

An Economy is run by tax cuts everytime or increase spending everytime... There are times and places... At the moment there should be a fiscal regining in of the economy.... By either reduction in spending or a increase in taxes... This would cool down an already over heated economy. This would prolong the boom and give freedom in a recession to loosen money up with increased spending or a tax reduction..

Generally Spending has remained static
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But look at the tax on the wealthiest:
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So the US economy is doing well today but look where the money is going

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They are paying less tax, paying lobbyists and making more money...
 
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So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.



Got any actual example of that? Or do you just think of all white people as one entity?

Name one Republican who has complained about the size of the deficit since Trump was elected. Just one. Paul Ryan was speaker of the House for two years. Not one whimper.

The Tea Party was a grass roots movement. Calling for names of Congressmen as representatives of it, makes no sense.
 
The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?
Yep. I think they were folded into the Trumpsters and just have to keep their mouths shut about their core principle, fiscal responsibility.

Hey, it's politics, nothing wrong with a few tons of hypocrisy here and there.
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Mac, The OP has a point...

An Economy is run by tax cuts everytime or increase spending everytime... There are times and places... At the moment there should be a fiscal regining in of the economy.... By either reduction in spending or a increase in taxes... This would cool down an already over heated economy. This would prolong the boom and give freedom in a recession to loosen money up with increased spending or a tax reduction..

Generally Spending has remained static
spending-spending-and-revenue-as-percent-of-gdp.png



But look at the tax on the wealthiest:
4e1c5b08ccd1d50779000000-750-629.jpg


So the US economy is doing well today but look where the money is going

Screen_Shot_2018_07_29_at_10.27.09_AM.png


They are paying less tax, paying lobbyists and making more money...
They're trained not to worry about the second half your post.
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White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.
So the black tea party members were racist?
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.
Both Congress and the president have to agree on spending-people worried Obama would spend too much and Trump too little. People worry too much.
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.
And you dems have other threads on this forum on why republicans are so heartless as not to spend more on social programs.
by the way TEA stands for taxed enough already.
 
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So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.



Got any actual example of that? Or do you just think of all white people as one entity?

Name one Republican who has complained about the size of the deficit since Trump was elected. Just one. Paul Ryan was speaker of the House for two years. Not one whimper.

Rand Paul, the tea party tuned into the Freedom Caucus.
 
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So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.



Got any actual example of that? Or do you just think of all white people as one entity?

Name one Republican who has complained about the size of the deficit since Trump was elected. Just one. Paul Ryan was speaker of the House for two years. Not one whimper.

The Tea Party was a grass roots movement. Calling for names of Congressmen as representatives of it, makes no sense.

The Tea Party caucus is still in Congress. Today they're called the "Freedom Caucus", and they're the ones who shut down the government last fall after the mid-terms, after Trump renegged on his deal with Mitch McConnell.

And just like every other Republican in Congress or the Senate, if they dare to criticize Trump or his policies, they have been primaried, regardless of how odious those policies have been. Republicans have a choice. They either back the President as he leads the US government into debt and bankruptcy just as he has done in business all of his adult life.

US government debt is rapidly approaching a tipping point. The US government will soon be spending taxpayer dollars on interest, than they currently do on programs for the nation's poorest children. The Fed has been raising interest rates under a booming economy, and this means that interest costs on federal debt are rising faster than inflation.

Capitalist economies are subject to periods of growth and contraction. The USA has enjoyed the longest period of growth in history. Trump has tried to prolong this recovery period by goosing it with tax cuts and increased spending, but in doing so, Trump has exaserbated both the depth of the next recession, and stripped the government of any tools to help the next President deal with that recession.

If the USA is pulling it's military back, and disengaging from the rest of the world, why do you need to increase military spending?
 
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So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.



Got any actual example of that? Or do you just think of all white people as one entity?

Name one Republican who has complained about the size of the deficit since Trump was elected. Just one. Paul Ryan was speaker of the House for two years. Not one whimper.

The Tea Party was a grass roots movement. Calling for names of Congressmen as representatives of it, makes no sense.

The Tea Party caucus is still in Congress. Today they're called the "Freedom Caucus", and they're the ones who shut down the government last fall after the mid-terms, after Trump renegged on his deal with Mitch McConnell.

And just like every other Republican in Congress or the Senate, if they dare to criticize Trump or his policies, they have been primaried, regardless of how odious those policies have been. Republicans have a choice. They either back the President as he leads the US government into debt and bankruptcy just as he has done in business all of his adult life.

US government debt is rapidly approaching a tipping point. The US government will soon be spending taxpayer dollars on interest, than they currently do on programs for the nation's poorest children. The Fed has been raising interest rates under a booming economy, and this means that interest costs on federal debt are rising faster than inflation.

Capitalist economies are subject to periods of growth and contraction. The USA has enjoyed the longest period of growth in history. Trump has tried to prolong this recovery period by goosing it with tax cuts and increased spending, but in doing so, Trump has exaserbated both the depth of the next recession, and stripped the government of any tools to help the next President deal with that recession.

If the USA is pulling it's military back, and disengaging from the rest of the world, why do you need to increase military spending?


The movement was not lead by the Tea Party caucus. The Tea Party Caucus was FOLLOWING the Tea Party.


You got anything to back up the claim of the OP?
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.
It certainly reeks of hypocrisy.

I don't think you can call it racism without more. They would have bitched loud and often, no matter who the Democrats had in the White House, because the Tea Party was a partisan "coalition" of allegedly pissed off tax payers who were tired of the spending, but it was really nothing more than a bunch of GOP underlings with little power trying to gain power.


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