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Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.
Class dismissed.
Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.
Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!
Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).
Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).
Part of it.......
Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
Again......Class dismissed.
It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.
George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.
they complain about blaming Bush but they keep trying to rewrite history of Bush.
So I take it you don't believe there was $5 trillion in losses due to Dot.com bust?
You also don't think 9/11 occurred?
Or NONE of the worst hurricanes in history occurred?
Those events NEVER happened then?
NONE of which were the fault of Clinton except the Gorelick Memo which prevented CIA from sharing with FBI Chinese donations to Clinton in exchange for missile technology.. which would not allow CIA to share with FBI about 9/11 hijackers...
And NO ONE blames ANYONE for the worst hurricanes in history..
BUT what do you think happened to the Trillions of dollars of businesses, assets, stock, inventory, lost revenue that those events caused?
ARe you totally UNAWARE that the IRS allows tax payers to subtract those $ 8 trillion in losses over 30 years and this was about $200 billion a year that started in 2002 and continues??
AND you don't think that had any affect?
Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.
Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!
Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).
Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).
Part of it.......
Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
Again......Class dismissed.
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft
I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?
The GOP trashed Clinton for trying to kill Bin Laden
Awww, poor Bill. Maybe Monica can help cheer him up?
Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.
Class dismissed.
Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.
Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!
It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.
George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.
And President Obama is seen as 4 more years of the same.
I agree GWB was a loser. The only question in my mind is will President Obama be seen as better or worse.
Either way...he is still a loser.
Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).
Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).
Part of it.......
Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.
Again......Class dismissed.
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft
I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?
He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq
Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.
Class dismissed.
Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.
Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!
Four planes were hijacked. They were in the air for over an hour. The only plane that anyone even tried to stop was the one heading for washington..to the area where Dick Cheney was staying.
So..more money spent on a military then all other militaries, combined, and still can't stop 4 subsonic commercial planes in the air for an hour.
That was either gross incompetence or gross stupidity.
Take your pick.
It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.
George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.
And President Obama is seen as 4 more years of the same.
I agree GWB was a loser. The only question in my mind is will President Obama be seen as better or worse.
Either way...he is still a loser.
Yeah..like Bush he had to be installed by the Supreme Court..
Oh wait.
He won the popular vote by over 10 million.
Sounds like he is a winner!
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft
I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?
He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq
He didn't get close enough, did he?
You wrote"present a whole lot of data supporting an argument that is flawed in its premise."Typical MO for healthmyths is to present a whole lot of data supporting an argument that is flawed in its premise. The invitation is for people to concentrate on the data presented, when the proper response is to point out the flaw in the premise making all of the data irrelevant.
That's the case here once more. It is completely inappropriate to compare the Bush and Obama administrations. Bush was president during the last eight years of an Unraveling era, while Obama is our first Crisis-era president (except the last few MONTHS of Bush's second term, and that don't count). Radically different circumstances = impossibility of doing a valid one-to-one comparison.
On the other hand, Clinton was also an Unraveling-era president, as was the elder Bush, and Ronald Reagan in his second (but not first) term. So it's reasonable to compare any of them to what Bush did. But I will leave that to others.
He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq
He didn't get close enough, did he?
No.....Bush never even gave it a shot
He was right, and he was not blaming anyone. He was simply pointing out a national behavorial/institutional weakness we exhibited theretofore, and declared we're getting over that.Bush Blames Carter, Reagan, Clinton for 9/11
By Judd Legum on Aug 30, 2005 at 1:55 pm
As his poll numbers sink, Bush is getting desperate. From his address today in San Diego:
They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy… After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities.
He didn't get close enough, did he?
No.....Bush never even gave it a shot
Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.
No.....Bush never even gave it a shot
Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.
Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch
What Bush didn't do in office:
Deal with an economic collapse, an exploding national debt, and two wars that were dumped in his lap by his predecessor.
No but clinton failed to get bin laden when he was offered his head on a silver plater.No.....Bush never even gave it a shot
Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.
Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch
Because like obamaturd he is a spineless coward.Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.
Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch
Why didn't Clinton kill Osama when he had the chance?
No.....Bush never even gave it a shot
Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.
GORELICK MEMO/WALL!!!!
Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch
AM I glad YOU brought that up!!!!!
"C.I.A. officials of deliberately withholding crucial documents and photographs of Qaeda operatives from the F.B.I."
Known as the Gorelick Memo...
"As Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton from 1994 to 1997 Jamie Gorelick wrote the memo that created the now infamous Gorelick Wall. A 1995 memo she wrote,
stated explicitly that they would go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.
These rules were, shortly after their creation, expanded to regulate such communications in future counter-terrorism investigations.
It set a procedure where various intelligence operations could not share information with each other.
Jamie Gorelicks wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall
Whatever has happened to this someday someone will die and wall or not the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems ..especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
» Jamie Gorelick Who ‘Helped to Bring us 9/11 AND Housing Collapse’ Is On Short List to Lead FBI - Big Government
Here is what Richard A. Clark, former counter-terrorism advisor for both the Clinton and Bush Administrations, testified to in prepared remarks before the Sept. 11 Commission on March 24, 2004:
In retrospect, we know that there was information available to some in the FBI and CIA that al Qida [sic] operatives had entered the United States. That information was not shared with the senior FBI counter-terrorism official (Dale Watson) or with me, despite the heightened state of concern in the Counter-terrorism Security Group.
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew
NOW WHY did the Gorelick Memo and subsequent WALL come into being???
It should be noted that when Gorelick penned the aforementioned memo, President Clinton was extremely worried about ongoing FBI and CIA investigations into illegal Chinese contributions that had been made to his presidential campaign. Both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese, and ultimately the Clinton administration itself.
The Wall of Separation between Law-Enforcement and Intelligence - Discover the Networks
