What Global Warming?

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    Now even some outlests in the liberal media are asjing the same question I have been asking for sometime



    What global warming? West Palm shows few signs of rising temperatures
    By Mark Hollis | Tallahassee Bureau
    July 25, 2007

    TALLAHASSEE A study of new government climate data finds that temperatures across Florida are on the rise, but some places such as West Palm Beach are experiencing fewer signs of warmer-than-normal weather.

    Those findings, included in a report released Tuesday by a Tallahassee-based environmental advocacy group that studied climate statistics, presents a mixed picture for parts of South Florida.

    While ocean breezes, cloudy days and certain weather patterns can keep local temperatures from spiking, scientists say South Floridians still have at least one major reason to be concerned about global warming: The possible rise of sea level leading to the loss of local beaches.

    "Moving to West Palm Beach to a condo on the beach may be comfortable from a temperature and lifestyle standpoint, but it may not be your best bet [because of sea-level rise]," said Jeff Chanton, a geologist and oceanographer at Florida State University.

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-flftemps0725pnjul25,0,749955.story
     
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    wether is complex and any change will occur over a long period of time and be so gradual it will be hiden by usuall fluctuations in weather, so it doen't matter which side of the argument you stand, there is no evidence
     
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    The global warming nuts hate to see stories like this
     
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    Did you actually read the article you posted? It actually suggests... pretty much throughout... that Florida's temperatures are increasing above "normal" (as defined in the article) - including West Palm Beach.
     
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    Yes I read it

    But the the myth of global warming is being exposed for what it is

    A myth

    The weather is not living up to the hype
     
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    Short term fluctuations in weather won't mask longer term trends. It just means that looking at the weather for any particular short-term period isn't a useful means for evaluating to what extent global warming is occurring. Scientist have no problem looking at temperature trends over decades and drawing conclusions from that data.
     
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    To bad their "conclusions" are full of crap
     
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    Well, if you read it, why would you post it to suggest that global warming isn't occurring? The article suggests that it is.

    I am just saying, you should have posted a different article. This one doesn't support your proposition.
     
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    That was a pretty brilliant post. The way you weave stunning rhetoric with solid empirical data to support your position is truly awe-inspiring.
     
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    List of Global Warming Skeptics Grows, Media Couldn’t Care Less
    By Noel Sheppard | May 16, 2007 - 13:30 ET
    While global warming alarmists like soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore and his band of not so merry sycophants continue talking about a scientific consensus concerning man’s role in “climate change,” the list of scientists that have grown skeptical of this nexus continues to grow.

    Unfortunately, a media obsessed with advancing hysteria on the subject refuse to acknowledge the existence of such folks as they continue to pound the table about the imminent doom to the planet.

    With that in mind, Sen. James Inhofe’s office (R-Oklahoma) is preparing a “detailed and comprehensive sampling of scientists who have only recently spoken out against climate hysteria [that] will be forthcoming in a soon to be released U.S. Senate report.”

    Inhofe’s communications director, Marc Morano, published a few of these names, as well as their backgrounds and conclusions, at Inhofe’s EPW Press Blog Tuesday:

    Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, a top geophysicist and French Socialist who has authored more than 100 scientific articles and written 11 books and received numerous scientific awards including the Goldschmidt Medal from the Geochemical Society of the United States, converted from climate alarmist to skeptic in 2006.
    Geologist Bruno Wiskel of the University of Alberta recently reversed his view of man-made climate change and instead became a global warming skeptic.
    Astrophysicist Dr. Nir Shaviv, one of Israel's top young award winning scientists, recanted his belief that manmade emissions were driving climate change.
    Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government, recently detailed his conversion to a skeptic.
    Climate researcher Dr. Tad Murty, former Senior Research Scientist for Fisheries and Oceans in Canada, also reversed himself from believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic.
    Botanist Dr. David Bellamy, a famed UK environmental campaigner, former lecturer at Durham University and host of a popular UK TV series on wildlife, recently converted into a skeptic after reviewing the science and now calls global warming fears "poppycock."
    Climate scientist Dr. Chris de Freitas of The University of Auckland, N.Z., also converted from a believer in man-made global warming to a skeptic.
    Meteorologist Dr. Reid Bryson, the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin (now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, was pivotal in promoting the coming ice age scare of the 1970’s ( See Time Magazine’s 1974 article “Another Ice Age” citing Bryson: & see Newsweek’s 1975 article “The Cooling World” citing Bryson) has now converted into a leading global warming skeptic.
    Global warming author and economist Hans H.J. Labohm started out as a man-made global warming believer but he later switched his view after conducting climate research.
    Paleoclimatologist Tim Patterson, of Carlton University in Ottawa converted from believer in C02 driving the climate change to a skeptic.
    Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, chairman of the Central Laboratory for the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Radiological Protection in Warsaw, took a scientific journey from a believer of man-made climate change in the form of global cooling in the 1970’s all the way to converting to a skeptic of current predictions of catastrophic man-made global warming.
    Paleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa, reversed his views on man-made climate change after further examining the evidence.
    Environmental geochemist Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa, converted from believer to skeptic after conducting scientific studies of climate history.
    Like many of you, I look forward to the full report being prepared by Sen. Inhofe’s office, and can’t way to see Charlie Gibson, Brian Williams, and Katie Couric begin their respective evening new broadcasts with these revelations.

    Of course, I am not holding my breath.

    http://newsbusters.org/node/12793
     

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