emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
Comparing the Trump-related charges or convictions
to Clinton-related, do you believe this does or does not prove
A. Trump and his associates are more complicit in crimes than Clinton?
B. The partisan bias and conspiracy to go after Trump while letting Clinton and supporters off the hook
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Original question and my response:
My original response:
The justice system is biased to catch and convict people by the "letter of the law" which can be defined, while allowing huge conspiracies to go unchecked because they violate the SPIRIT of the law that takes too much time and resources to "prove in court." That's why we have petty criminals who get TONS of time in jail, while big corporate abusers can wheedle around the "letter of the law" and get away with worse damages and leave just the petty accomplices to get federal sentences. If this happens with poor minorities filling up prisons while the real crooks go free, what makes you think it doesn't happen with political players caught in the same game?
As I stated before, the REAL danger of electing the Obamas and Clintons to office is they have these legal connections that can buy their way out of crimes and courts. Trump doesn't have those connections with legal monopolies. That's why you see the difference between no one going after Obama for unconstitutional violations (such as ACA that even Justice Roberts caved in on and "rewrote" the bill unconstitutionally to be a tax when it was passed through Congress and voted on as a public health bill) and the opposite happening where the Democrats legal connections and resources all target Trump and any associates -- where no such resources were spent going after either Clinton or after Obama.
John Gallivan - get rid of that bias in the justice and legal system, and maybe we can see these cases equally for what they truly contain and not just what we see on the surface. All parties are equally guilty of covering up while blaming the other. Taxpayers should unite and demand Reimbursement for all the wrongs, costs and consequences, and quit playing one side or the other. Go after them all! We'd recollect billions if not trillions and shift the debt back to the wrongdoers who incurred it.
to Clinton-related, do you believe this does or does not prove
A. Trump and his associates are more complicit in crimes than Clinton?
B. The partisan bias and conspiracy to go after Trump while letting Clinton and supporters off the hook
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Original question and my response:
John Gallivan said:Mindboggling that some people (on the right, and sadly, on the far left) still weigh wobbly and wildly false narratives in their minds. Let me help tip those defective scales with a little undeniable perspective
Just FYI …
Hillary Clinton Benghazi Investigation:
4 years
0 indictments
0 convictions
Hillary Clinton Email Investigation:
2 years
0 indictments
0 convictions
Trump-Russia Investigation:
15 months
34 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)
3 Indictments/Charges (companies)
6 GUILTY pleas (and counting)
4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
Indicted: Roger Stone
Indicted: Paul Manafort
Indicted: Rick Gates
Indicted: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: Michael Flynn
Indicted: Michael Cohen
Indicted: Richard Pinedo
Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
Indicted: Sergey Polozov
Indicted: Maria Bovda
Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
Indicted: Internet Research Agency
Indicted: Concord Management
Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
Bank fraud (8 counts)
Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Making false statements (6 counts)
Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
False FARA statements (2 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)
My original response:
The justice system is biased to catch and convict people by the "letter of the law" which can be defined, while allowing huge conspiracies to go unchecked because they violate the SPIRIT of the law that takes too much time and resources to "prove in court." That's why we have petty criminals who get TONS of time in jail, while big corporate abusers can wheedle around the "letter of the law" and get away with worse damages and leave just the petty accomplices to get federal sentences. If this happens with poor minorities filling up prisons while the real crooks go free, what makes you think it doesn't happen with political players caught in the same game?
As I stated before, the REAL danger of electing the Obamas and Clintons to office is they have these legal connections that can buy their way out of crimes and courts. Trump doesn't have those connections with legal monopolies. That's why you see the difference between no one going after Obama for unconstitutional violations (such as ACA that even Justice Roberts caved in on and "rewrote" the bill unconstitutionally to be a tax when it was passed through Congress and voted on as a public health bill) and the opposite happening where the Democrats legal connections and resources all target Trump and any associates -- where no such resources were spent going after either Clinton or after Obama.
John Gallivan - get rid of that bias in the justice and legal system, and maybe we can see these cases equally for what they truly contain and not just what we see on the surface. All parties are equally guilty of covering up while blaming the other. Taxpayers should unite and demand Reimbursement for all the wrongs, costs and consequences, and quit playing one side or the other. Go after them all! We'd recollect billions if not trillions and shift the debt back to the wrongdoers who incurred it.