What does the constitution and my Car manual have in common?

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    I have notice that the left in both parties tend to assume that if something is wrong it much be unconstitutional such as discrimination. The constitution only bans certain kinds of discrimination with respect to voting and only over certain groups. Its a good thing because we should discriminate against criminals who would vote for politicians to reduce the penalties they get for the crimes they do.

    The point I am trying to make is that the constitution has more in common with my car manual than any religious text that determines what is right and wrong for the people. It is simply a set of rules for the government to operate by and depending on how those rules are written it can be good or evil. For example: Slavery was legal under the constitution and so was voter discrimination in the 3/5 person provision in it. Those were changed through the legal amendment process but were not changed because it corrupted the "holiness" of the document.

    The new Arizona law may discriminate and even do it unethically (thats not my opinion) but that would not change the constitutionality of it unless it actually violated the constitution itself. The constitution has no ethereal goodness to it and is just what it is which is the words that are written onto it and people can't decide the constitutionality of something simply because it is wrong but only because it violated the rules written for the government.
     
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    So you're trying to justify discrimination by saying the Constitution is imperfect and therefore the laws in it really don't matter? :cuckoo: Troll.
     
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    You have no clue what is in either one
     
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    Discrimination?

    I'd like you to read the immigration laws in Mexico and see what discrimination really is.

    They have a quota system that doesn't allow the native population to go below a specified percentage level.

    You have to have a job to enter the country....and have your own health care.

    You cannot collect any benefits of any kind there. You must have enough money in the bank to live there...in other words you can't take any cash out but they don't seem to have a problem with you bringing it in.

    Anyone entering the country illegally will be thrown in jail for not less then 5 years and all of his or her possessions confiscated.
     
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    So wait, you want to stop illegal immigration because it hurts taxpayers but you're going to throw them in jail, which is completely funded on taxpayers money for more than five years?

    Do you bother to think before posting? :eusa_eh:
     
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    And you've never read ether.
     
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    I could ask you the same thing.

    I was telling you the immigration laws in Mexico dumb-ass.
     
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    Yes, and we're not Mexico. Nor should we be.
     
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    I guess you can't discriminate between unconstitutional discrimination and constitutional discrimination. Let me give you a definition of discrimination. It is when you show a preference of one thing over another. I discriminate when I choose a McDonalds meal number 1 simply because I like it more. A racist will show a preference for one race of people over another hence racial discrimination.

    The constitution actually does permit discrimination and even discrimination that is completely unethical in some cases such as allowing a preacher of one faith to kick out people who practice another. I would call that discrimination but if we use your thinking that 'discrimination is evil' then it is discrimination in the same way a store owner would refuse to serve black people.

    Fortunately, the law allows one kind of discrimination and forbids another but the law can't be bent to fit someone sense of right or wrong since that would violate what people have established for themselves as something the government can't forbid them from doing thus protecting their freedom.

    You may not like the Arizona law but your moral objection to it does not give you the right to trample onto the rights of another state or person. If that was the case then those that want to ban birth control because they think is wrong has every authority to remove someone's rights from them. I hope you do not think that is acceptable?
     
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    God you're an idiot.

    I would attempt to clarify my point...but I feel it's a wasted effort.
     

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