What does it mean?

[WatertheTree]

What does it mean when the president spends 25% of his time in office campaigning to be reelected?

What does it mean when campaign funding is expected to hit a billion dollars for both candidates?

What does it mean when there are 8 lobbyists in Washington for every 1 representative of the people?

 

[Avatar4321]

It means he's obviously working too hard.

 

[Truthmatters]

It means we need to get the money out of our elections

 

[Avatar4321]

It means we need to get the money out of our elections

The only way to get money out of elections is to:

1) Silence people
2) Eliminate elections.

Which one are you proposing?

 

[Truthmatters]

Nope , free airtime.

There is no reason we as the people who own the airwaves cant give airtime to qualified candidates.

Get enough signatures and you get your slice.

Its airtime that costs the most money

 

[Avatar4321]

Nope , free airtime.

There is no reason we as the people who own the airwaves cant give airtime to qualified candidates.

Get enough signatures and you get your slice.

Its airtime that costs the most money

You can't mandate that a candidate be given free airtime.

You see, airtime cost money for a reason. It's because people work their asses off putting shows on television, selling advertising for shows, etc. You can't force people to work for politicians free of charge. Slavery is unconstitutional.

Not to mention forcing people to freely advertise for candidates they don't like goes against their first amendment rights.

So I take it you are in the silence speech column?

 

[Truthmatters]

the airwaves are owned by the people , yes we can

 

[Jackson]

Why does an incumbent need millions of dollars to run for his second term? He should be running on his record and his name recognition is already there.

 

[Avatar4321]

the airwaves are owned by the people , yes we can

So you literally think you can force people to air any message you want simply by act of Congress?

And you dont see why others would have a problem with this?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

the airwaves are owned by the people , yes we can

The broadcast stations are owned by companies who have to pay people's salaries, health and welfare, UC insurance, workman's comp, etc.

They also have to pay for utilities, building and equipment maintenance, cleaning, etc.

So, no you can't.

 

[Avatar4321]

the airwaves are owned by the people , yes we can

The broadcast stations are owned by companies who have to pay peoples salaries, health and welfare, UC insurance, workman's comp, etc.

They also have to pay for utilities, building and equipment maintenance, cleaning, etc.

So, no you can't.

Well they clearly should be forced to work for free because TM says that would be a better idea than people getting paid for providing services to the candidates.

Because clearly the politicians shouldnt be dependent on us lowly serfs to you know, actually support them in order for them to be elected.

 

[WatertheTree]

Nope , free airtime.

There is no reason we as the people who own the airwaves cant give airtime to qualified candidates.

Get enough signatures and you get your slice.

Its airtime that costs the most money

You can't mandate that a candidate be given free airtime.

You see, airtime cost money for a reason. It's because people work their asses off putting shows on television, selling advertising for shows, etc. You can't force people to work for politicians free of charge. Slavery is unconstitutional.

Not to mention forcing people to freely advertise for candidates they don't like goes against their first amendment rights.

So I take it you are in the silence speech column?

Wrong! Take this latest FRAUD put upon the people of this country. Unlimited anonomus donations by corporate power!

Strip these non living entities of the rights of human beings!

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Nope , free airtime.

There is no reason we as the people who own the airwaves cant give airtime to qualified candidates.

Get enough signatures and you get your slice.

Its airtime that costs the most money

You can't mandate that a candidate be given free airtime.

You see, airtime cost money for a reason. It's because people work their asses off putting shows on television, selling advertising for shows, etc. You can't force people to work for politicians free of charge. Slavery is unconstitutional.

Not to mention forcing people to freely advertise for candidates they don't like goes against their first amendment rights.

So I take it you are in the silence speech column?

Wrong! Take this latest FRAUD put upon the people of this country. Unlimited anonomus donations by corporate power!

Strip these non living entities of the rights of human beings!

Then you would be OK with stopping unlimited donations from unions and community groups, right?

 

[Truthmatters]

Our airwaves and our elections.

they follow the politicians anyway.
We could insist ona a certain amount of time being given each candidate.

Then you dont have to depend on the station to give each guy in a debate the same amount of time.

 

[Avatar4321]

Nope , free airtime.

There is no reason we as the people who own the airwaves cant give airtime to qualified candidates.

Get enough signatures and you get your slice.

Its airtime that costs the most money

You can't mandate that a candidate be given free airtime.

You see, airtime cost money for a reason. It's because people work their asses off putting shows on television, selling advertising for shows, etc. You can't force people to work for politicians free of charge. Slavery is unconstitutional.

Not to mention forcing people to freely advertise for candidates they don't like goes against their first amendment rights.

So I take it you are in the silence speech column?

Wrong! Take this latest FRAUD put upon the people of this country. Unlimited anonomus donations by corporate power!

Strip these non living entities of the rights of human beings!

Corporations are groups of people. Groups of people have always had the same rights in regards to free speech as individuals.

I certainly dont want politicians determining which groups of individuals can give money to their political opponents.

So you are in the limit free speech column as well?

 

[Avatar4321]

Our airwaves and our elections.

they follow the politicians anyway.
We could insist ona a certain amount of time being given each candidate.

Then you dont have to depend on the station to give each guy in a debate the same amount of time.

Do you seriously not care at all about forcing people to work for politicians they don't agree with or support?

We aren't a totalitarian government. We are a REPUBLIC.

Stop trying to sell us to the politicians.

 

[Truthmatters]

groups of people who dont have to be American citizens to effect our elections.

its dangerous for our countries safety

 

[Truthmatters]

We own the fucking airwaves you fool.

They belong to the people and are merely lent to the corps.

Jesus you dont even know the laws

 

[Avatar4321]

groups of people who dont have to be American citizens to effect our elections.

its dangerous for our countries safety

So I presume you opposed Clinton and Gore because of their questionable foreign donations?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Our airwaves and our elections.

they follow the politicians anyway.
We could insist ona a certain amount of time being given each candidate.

Then you dont have to depend on the station to give each guy in a debate the same amount of time.

Yes, they are our airwaves.

And you are certainly welcome to build your own broadcast transmitters and antennas to follow your dream of free air time for all candidates.

Just don't be too surprised when your employees want pay and benefits, the utility companies want money for their services, and Uncle Sugar, Gov. Greedy, Mayor Moneypit, and all the other taxing bodies come looking for their pound of flesh.