What does it mean to be socially liberal?

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    I'm a hardcore fiscal conservative, pretty much every government program I want done away with and budgets slashed across the board. That being said I'm often called a social liberal because of my views, maybe I am, but sometimes when I think it out it seems like maybe the majority who define the term "socially liberal" may be incorrect.

    I want government out of all marriage, which essentially gives gays the same capabilities as it does straights. I want churches, insurance companies, banks etc to make their decisions on who they deem to be married and how they want their policies to reflect that.

    I want abortion to be a states right entirely. If you must know I'm pro-choice with limitations, but if my state (Ohio) passed pro-life legislation I would view it as democracy at work. If I have a future daughter who's raped and doesn't want to go through the pregnancy than I'll move or if possible have the procedure done elsewhere in another state.

    I don't want government involved in religion whatsoever. No tax breaks for any religion, as this indirectly causes higher taxes for civilians who may or may not follow the religion. I don't want them telling schools how to or not to teach about religion, that should be up to the school and the school should inform the parents so they can decide if that's where they want their child to attend.

    So to me getting government out of these issues seems like a conservative virtue, what say you?
     
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    A socially liberal person would not believe the state should regulate who gives birth. There is no real difference between one government entity regulating abortion and another.
     
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    It usually means you're a homo.
     
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    The major come from this (imo)
    Social conservatives support states rights to do everything you listed.
    Social liberals want it done at the federal level. Leaving no one a place to move to if they disagree.
     
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    uh...no. A liberal believes no government entity should regulate any of the issues he brought up.

    You, on the other hand, seem to think a state government has more rights over individuals than the federal government does...that makes you a social conservative.
     
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    It means, in theory, that you do not pass judgement on anything a person does so long as it is not physically harmful to another person who is out of the womb.

    Gay sex.
    Gay marriage.
    Drug use of any kind.
    Refusal to work.
    Marry a horse.
    Anyone can live anyplace without restriction.
    Practice any religion anywhere (except Christianity).
    All views are treated equally without question (except right wing views).
    Guns are bad.
    Guitars are good.
    Bicycles have a right to any road anywhere.
    Animals are equal to humans.
    Gasoline is bad.
    Air conditioning is bad.
    Plastic bags are bad.
    Paper bags are bad.
    Coal is bad.


    Being a social liberal pretty much means that you wanna sit around a tree, and hug other people all day.
     
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    For the textbook social liberal

    Pro-choice, and doesnt beleive pro-life people even have a right to protest the point
    Pro-gun control
    Anti-death penalty
    Pro gay marriage
    In favor of public educaution (i.e. against home schooling and school vouchers)
    In favor of some form of drug drecriminalization
    Would vote yes for an ERA if it ever came up again
    Usually in favor of lowering the voting age


    If you then add in the traits of the fiscal liberal you also get:

    Government funding for the above
    Progressive taxation to fund the above

    You also have some single issue items that can be added here and there:

    Environmentalism
    Animal Rights
    Unionization
    Liberal Immegration policies

    and then add in some statist tendencies as well by:

    Using government to coerce people into going along with some/all of the above.
     
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    I believe thats called having your cake and eating it too
     
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    Um, yeah, thats left wingism.

    They want to be seen as tolerant, but they only tolerate their own views.
    They want money and perks, but don't want to work for it.
    They want total equality, but won't embrace what that would require.
     
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    You started off ok, then sounded very silly as you went further.
     

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