What do you think of Obama's foreign policy?

[grunt11b]

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I like the part where's he's being burned in effigy.

I don't. I don't like the office of the President being shown such disrespect.

Regardless of that, I find Obama's grade is failing in foreign policy. He had zero experience in that. Many presidents have had little experience in it.

But, they learned quickly. He hasn't.

Libya is a clusterfuck. He has lost respect from several of our key allies - UK, Israel, for example. Pakistan, a very difficult situation for many years, has escalated under him. That's foolhardy and extremely dangerous.

Ugh. Seriously.

I do agree with you. He wasn't equipped to be the leader everyone expected. He surrounded himslef with friends who were equally ill equipped in every aspect of policies for this nation. Let's hope we don't make the same mistake again.

Everyone did not expect him to be a leader, only those idiots on the left who refused to listen to anyone elses opinions expected him to be any kind of leader. His resume told anyone with common sense that he would not be ready for the job in this day and age. Maybe a peacetime president, but not a wartime president. And that is even stretching it being that his domestic policies further sunk the economy, but that's for another discussion.
That being said, as far as I know his only foreign policy that I can judge him on is his bowing/appeasing our enemies, while at the same time taking credit for Bush era policies that led to the deaths of OBL and other top terror chiefs. The positives he has he only got through riding on the coat tails of former administration officials.
So, in my opinion he is a complete and utter failure, and an embarrassment to the United States of America.

 

[grunt11b]

Barack Obama is just another Big Government Neocon. I know his followers will take exception to my assessment but it is the truth. Are his policies really any different than what McCain's would have been? He's making Big Government much bigger and he's bombing & killing all over the World. He's just a Big Government Neocon. There hasn't been any change.

I hate Mcain, but in his defense I think he would have spared us the Healthcare atrocity, but that's about it. And right about now I think I would take it after all the destruction of the last 3 years and 1 more coming that we have yet to deal with.

 

[grunt11b]

I strongly urge people to check out 'The Obama Deception.' Obama works for the same people Bush did. It's all about Big Government/Corporate control. Check the movie out.

I watched that, interesting documentary.

 

[grunt11b]

I strongly urge people to check out 'The Obama Deception.' Obama works for the same people Bush did. It's all about Big Government/Corporate control. Check the movie out.

Yea movies are always factually accurate.

It's a documentary based on factual evidence, just check it out. You may be surprised at what you see, you can see it on google video.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw]The Obama Deception HQ Full length version - YouTube[/ame]

 

[grunt11b]

I don't. I don't like the office of the President being shown such disrespect.

Regardless of that, I find Obama's grade is failing in foreign policy. He had zero experience in that. Many presidents have had little experience in it.

But, they learned quickly. He hasn't.

Libya is a clusterfuck. He has lost respect from several of our key allies - UK, Israel, for example. Pakistan, a very difficult situation for many years, has escalated under him. That's foolhardy and extremely dangerous.

Ugh. Seriously.

I do agree with you. He wasn't equipped to be the leader everyone expected. He surrounded himslef with friends who were equally ill equipped in every aspect of policies for this nation. Let's hope we don't make the same mistake again.

Yes, let's give him another chance and see if he doesn't cause Armageddon.

We still have one more year with him, Armageddon may still be yet to come.

 

[grunt11b]

I like the part where's he's being burned in effigy.

I don't. I don't like the office of the President being shown such disrespect.

Regardless of that, I find Obama's grade is failing in foreign policy. He had zero experience in that. Many presidents have had little experience in it.

But, they learned quickly. He hasn't.

Libya is a clusterfuck. He has lost respect from several of our key allies - UK, Israel, for example. Pakistan, a very difficult situation for many years, has escalated under him. That's foolhardy and extremely dangerous.

Ugh. Seriously.

Exactly!

The effigy is a shot at America. I may not agree with Obama, but the office he holds represents my country.

As far as Obama, he thought he could charm our enemies into liking us, and got played like a fiddle. In the process, he's alienated our allies and given comfort to our enemies.

Now that it's pretty clear his ambitious won't be met, he's just winging it, which is exactly what we DON'T want in foreign policy.

Giving comfort to our enemies is treason, I wish they would charge him accordingly and have a little bit of respect for our constitution.

 

[imbalance]

I suppose I am not surprised that Obama has gotten 15 votes for "terrible." I think it's a clear indication of the ignorance of this forum.

If you voted "terrible", you are either lying to yourself, or you know absolutely nothing about Obama's success in this policy.

DISAGREE WITH ME? YOU ARE IGNORANT

lol

 

[American Horse]

As far as Iraq and Afghanistan, it's simply an extension of Bush's policy.

I'm sorry, sir, but you are a mountain ignorance. You obviously do not know anything about these wars. It may be true that Obama retained some of the Iraq war tactics created under the Bush adminstration, but as far as Afghanistan goes, the difference in strategy is like night and day.

FACT: Obama's central focus has been on the use of drone attacks. In the last three years, this strategy has crippled Al-Queda far more effectively than it did in the first 8 years with Bush.

His drone attacks have killed a lot of people as collateral damage, and his main reason to use drones, far in excess of what Bush saw as advisable, is to avoid taking enemy combatants into custody by our military. He has no place to send them since he refuses to send them to GTMO, so he kills them with drones from the sky instead. How does that make ordinary tribal people feel do you suppose?
Look what it's gotten us right now on the border with Pakistan:

Pakistan, Russia and the Threat to the Afghan War | STRATFOR

Days after the Pakistanis closed their borders to the passage of fuel and supplies for the NATO-led war effort in Afghanistan, for very different reasons the Russians threatened to close the alternative Russia-controlled Northern Distribution Network (NDN). The dual threats are significant even if they don’t materialize. If both routes are cut, supplying Western forces operating in Afghanistan becomes impossible. Simply raising the possibility of cutting supply lines forces NATO and the United States to recalculate their position in Afghanistan. [ . . . ]

The proximate reason for the reaction is obvious; the ultimate reason for the suspension also is relatively simple. The Pakistani government believes NATO, and the United States in particular, will fail to bring the war in Afghanistan to a successful conclusion. It follows that the United States and other NATO countries at some point will withdraw.

 

[grunt11b]

The Obama Presidency has been very successful in terms of foreign policy.

The removal of bin Laden, of course, is a huge success.

That wasn't his policy, he continued the previous administrations lead on that one. Do you also like the policy he implemented himself that allowed him to murder an American citizen without Habeas Corpus?

He pushed a policy in Libya that was questioned by many, but his policy has been vindicated. It was also legal, so the impeachment talk is just rhetoric.

He bypassed congress to enter us into an illegal war, which he should have been impeached for, regardless of what you and the MSM think and say about it. The facts are facts and you guys are not entitled to your own. The president can only bypass congress if America is under direct threat, and we where not under direct threat from libya.

Opinion of the US, around the world, has improved since Obama took office, and that translates into good news for our economy.

WTF? I have no answer for this one, it is so outrageously out in left field there is no come back.

We are out of Iraq as of Christmas, according to the timeline laid out by the previous administration.

After Christmas you mean, and all this is doing is setting up the next administration to have to go back in there again "Democrat dirty politics at best". Within a year of our exit Iran will push into Iraq creating a firestorm in the middle east, and you will still be believing that this was a good decision on Obamas part.

The START Treaty was ratified.

And Russia laughed all the way home after we weakened our allies defense against Russian missiles, another Obama success you say? What did we get from the deal? Nothing, Russia has turned the cheek after the deal was done and we walked away with nothing more than putting our allies out there to be attacked.

As for Israel, listen to Ehud Barak.

Ehud Barak on 1967 borders - YouTube

As the old saying goes, to the victors go the spoils. They only bitch about borders because it gives them a reason to be antisemitic, if they really want that land, then maybe they should go get it back, but no...they want to turn the world against Israel "Our best Ally in my opinion" and Obama is riding right along with the rest of the antisemites. He's a filthy piece of shit for doing so. Israel has a right to exists, just as everyone else does, and I stand by them, even if the marxist in the white house doesn't.

Obama is extremely well informed on foreign policy, and was generally considered to be extremely well informed prior to his election.

Yes, because growing up in private schools and working the mean streets of Chicago as a community organizer is where you get your foreign policy experience at. Unless you count his upbringing in Kenya as his foreign policy experience that is.

Sounds to me like you have been drinking the koolaid my friend.

 

[grunt11b]

I think it's been excellent. He's reaffirmed vital alliances in Europe.

Vital alliances with who? those who where previously our enemies? Because our allies sure as hell dont appreciate him turning a cheek to them while appeasing their enemies. Can you name any countries that are a part of your so called "Vital alliances"? I would like to know who they are.

He successfully conducted a new SALT treaty with the Russians.

He's worked with Europe to manage economic crisises.

While ignoring our own financial crisis here at home. He never once stepped in with his own budget idea or anything, a failure on the office, that is a fact, he is supposed to unite the two chambers, not divide them like he has done

Real live terrorists are being offed

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Thanks to the previous administrations policies that Obama disagreeed with before he stepped into the reality called the Oval Office.

He's realistically dealt with Israel, so much so, he's very popular with the Israelis

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Are you fucking kidding me here? They hate the man, and he shunned netenyahu at every chance. If that is realistically dealing with Israel, then you are just as anti semetic as he is. Never once has Obama stood up and told the rest of the world that America stands by Israel, not once.

He's been on the side of people in the Middle East that are overthrowing some really nasty dictators.

And once the nasty dictators are gone, you will see even nastier ones in the muslim brotherhood stepping in, another failure on his part. It's already happening in Egypt, and with 30,000 SAM's missing in Libya it's only common sense that tells us it is happening and will happen there as well. I just hope they dont get snuck across our wide open southern border and get launched at passenger airliners.

He's well liked and well respected in most of the world.

Only among the Marxists/communists and socialist factions of the world. Those who used to be strong allies do not like him, not one bit. Hell, half of America doesn't like him, do you think the freedom loving rest of the world do?

 

[grunt11b]

I think it's been excellent. He's reaffirmed vital alliances in Europe. He successfully conducted a new SALT treaty with the Russians. He's worked with Europe to manage economic crisises. Real live terrorists are being offed. He's realistically dealt with Israel, so much so, he's very popular with the Israelis. He's been on the side of people in the Middle East that are overthrowing some really nasty dictators. He's well liked and well respected in most of the world.

Poland and the Check Republic hate him for getting rid of the missile defense defense systems that protected them from the Russians.
What "vital alliances" did he reaffirm?

he's very popular with the Israelis.

have a link?

He's well liked and well respected in most of the world

link?

The left has never dealt in facts, only propaganda.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

As far as Iraq and Afghanistan, it's simply an extension of Bush's policy.

That's been my issue. Iraq and Afghanistan were simply going along with the closing days of the Bush Administration. Nearly every other issue he's been handed he's made a mess of. Instead of doing the prudent thing and sitting out of the Arab Spring until he understood what was going on, he's jumped in head first.

I expect he'll win in 2011, but honestly he shouldn't.

 

[SAT2]

The objections to Obama's foreign policies consist almost entirely of right wing misinformation.

SS, DD.

 

[francoHFW]

If you vote terrible, you are a brainwashed nincompoop LOL

 

[Big Black Dog]

Just think. In less than a year we will have a "new" President - one born right here in America.

 

[francoHFW]

You probably believe that, brainwashed nincompoop. Newt 2012!!

 

[The T]

*SUCKS*

The Statist Democrats were so worried during W's presidency that no one liked us...we were sinking in popularity in the world for doing the right thing on terrorism...

Along comes Obama...and by his Immacculation...the world was going to join hands...sings endless choruses of Kumbaya...and I'd like to Teach The World To Sing...

Especially after his World Apology Tour '09...The seas were going to FALL...

Right?

Our allies now have less respect for us now than they ever have...especially since Obama has told his own people that they are Lazy....

Done dipshit stuff...embarrassed us...and pissed our allies off more than once.

Emboldened our enemies with the 'Arab Spring' that has backfired as Radical Islam runs amok that was once in check? (Yeah...BUSH did that...right)?

And how was it Mr. Obama to have the Israeli Prime Minister take your dumb ass to the woodshed in front of the US Congress, and the American people?

The Australiam PM telling the American people how great they once were, and still are and how much SHE belived in us still just a week or so ago?

Good Job O.

WE belive in ourselves. You? Not so much. And neither does the rest of the world. YOU have a credability problem.

 

[francoHFW]

You are highly misled- change the channel. Boooosh was a total catasttrophe. Only the boughtoff/brainwashed GOP doesn't prefer Obama by a wide margin.

 

[paulitician]

If you like War and going broke,he's your guy. This President is a Big Government Neocon. I think it's so funny that so many try to live in denial over that. And don't worry,there will be more War. Bet on that. His followers have been so duped.

 

[The T]

You are highly misled- change the channel. Boooosh was a total catasttrophe. Only the boughtoff/brainwashed GOP doesn't prefer Obama by a wide margin.