What do you think of Herman Cain?

So, a question about Cain's candidacy turns into a slanging match about Obama? Can't anyone stick with the topic, around here?
 
I LOVE his stance on illegal immigration but I am unsure of what else he believes in. Quite frankly, I'd vote for him based on illegals alone.

I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.
 
I LOVE his stance on illegal immigration but I am unsure of what else he believes in. Quite frankly, I'd vote for him based on illegals alone.

I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.

Agreed, but hopefully he'll learn something in the next four years. Cain '16!
 
I LOVE his stance on illegal immigration but I am unsure of what else he believes in. Quite frankly, I'd vote for him based on illegals alone.

I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.

Very good and I agree with most of it.
But Cain is still better than Obama as us hicks do not like socialism.
 
I'd vote for him but he has little name recognition and about as much experience in politics as the current former community activist.

You talking about the guy who served in the Illinois State Senate, the US Senate and taught Constitutional Law at the University Level for 10 years and served on the Board of Directors at the Conservative Annenberg Foundation? That's the guy with so little experience?

Oh, that's right. I forgot. He's black. How could he know anything important. Not like Conservatives.

You know that a certain Governor who will probably be the next Republican Candidate knows so little about the constitution, he thinks you can drop out of the union because that was the agreement when his state became a state.

Yea, you might want to google a picture of Herman Cain.

Genuine question - can you get any more stupid?

Also, I think it would be nice to have a President who didn't get all his opportunities and 'experience' through political favoritism, cronyism, and as the visible puppet to some political or social engineering machine. I wonder if Barack Obama has ever applied for and received a job on merit? I'm quite sure Herman Cain has.
 
What do you think of Herman Cain?

I do not waste time on that.

That can only mean you love career politicians. :eusa_drool:

If this isn't reason to get rid of career politicians, I don't know what is:

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I LOVE his stance on illegal immigration but I am unsure of what else he believes in. Quite frankly, I'd vote for him based on illegals alone.

I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.

How about we set the record fully straight here? Cain did not say he would not have Muslims in his cabinet or as judges. He said he would not be comfortable with that due to the Muslim stance on Sharia Law which is contrary to our Constitution. For the record, I also would not be comfortable with that unless I was certain the Muslim was like M. Zuhdi Jasser who I would trust with ANYTHING. I'm pretty sure Herman Cain would have zero problems with Dr. Jasser either.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...enies-claims-he-said-he-would-not-appoint-mu/

And even if Cain rejected Sharia-supporting Muslim as you are I might reject anarchists or communists or members of the Nazi party in our organization, that would NOT be a violation of the First Amendment.
 
I LOVE his stance on illegal immigration but I am unsure of what else he believes in. Quite frankly, I'd vote for him based on illegals alone.

I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.

How about we set the record fully straight here? Cain did not say he would not have Muslims in his cabinet or as judges. He said he would not be comfortable with that due to the Muslim stance on Sharia Law which is contrary to our Constitution. For the record, I also would not be comfortable with that unless I was certain the Muslim was like M. Zuhdi Jasser who I would trust with ANYTHING. I'm pretty sure Herman Cain would have zero problems with Dr. Jasser either.
PolitiFact Georgia | Cain denies claims he said he would not appoint Muslims

And even if Cain rejected Sharia-supporting Muslim as you are I might reject anarchists or communists or members of the Nazi party in our organization, that would NOT be a violation of the First Amendment.

How about *I* set the record straight. I was most clear I was referring to immigration issues and I was unsure of what else he believed in. At least he's honest about his bigotry unlike the total lack of honesty in any other politician. Do I like bigotry? Oh HELL no, but at least you know where this bigot stands. None of the other politicians are (stupid enough) to be honest about what they really want and believe. They are out for themselves and how to get votes. It's no longer about the people but individual politicians.

I would rather have a bigot that is honest about it vs. a liar who doesn't give a rip about the entire country. Never thought I would ever write that but it's true.
 
I live in Atlanta and have listened to Cain for a couple of years now, and was genuinely excited when he announced he was going to run.

After the first debate, where he was declared by most to be the clear winner, I donated and considered volunteering.

But beyond his rhetorical statements there really isn't any substance. Then there were those Muslim comments. Restricting the religious freedoms of anyone is wrong, and what he said was pure populism appealing to outwardly narrow minded Tennessee hicks.

His campaign is over.

How about we set the record fully straight here? Cain did not say he would not have Muslims in his cabinet or as judges. He said he would not be comfortable with that due to the Muslim stance on Sharia Law which is contrary to our Constitution. For the record, I also would not be comfortable with that unless I was certain the Muslim was like M. Zuhdi Jasser who I would trust with ANYTHING. I'm pretty sure Herman Cain would have zero problems with Dr. Jasser either.
PolitiFact Georgia | Cain denies claims he said he would not appoint Muslims

And even if Cain rejected Sharia-supporting Muslim as you are I might reject anarchists or communists or members of the Nazi party in our organization, that would NOT be a violation of the First Amendment.

How about *I* set the record straight. I was most clear I was referring to immigration issues and I was unsure of what else he believed in. At least he's honest about his bigotry unlike the total lack of honesty in any other politician. Do I like bigotry? Oh HELL no, but at least you know where this bigot stands. None of the other politicians are (stupid enough) to be honest about what they really want and believe. They are out for themselves and how to get votes. It's no longer about the people but individual politicians.

I would rather have a bigot that is honest about it vs. a liar who doesn't give a rip about the entire country. Never thought I would ever write that but it's true.

I don't see Herman Cain as a bigot. I see him as sharing my aversion to political correctness, most especially when political correctness trumps intellectual honesty.

It is NOT bigotry that causes us to reject Sharia Law but rather our love for liberty and unwillingness to subjugate a huge segment of society (women et al) to second class status. It is our unwillingness to put somebody in our courts or in charge of national policy whose religion REQUIRES them to put their allegiance to Allah and obedience to the dictates of Mohammed ahead of allegiance to the U.S.A. and its Constitution, even if they have to lie about their intentions in order to accomplish that.

Awhile back there was a piece making the rounds about a middle class black guy who had business in a rough part of town plagued with mostly black youth running in gangs and creating havoc--a lot of black on black crime. He said something to the effect that it was a sad commentary on the times when he found himself alone on the street and was afraid when he heard someone approaching. And he was relieved when he saw that the other person was white. That isn't bigotry or prejudice. That is intellectual honesty about a particular reality in one particular place. The white man was no better than any black man. But realistically, in that setting, he was far less likely to be a threat than would a young black hoodlum in that neighborhood.

Until we can get past all this political correctness crap that keeps us from telling the truth about the realities of the human condition in America today, we aren't going to make much progress in addressing it. Herman Cain could very well be the bridge that helps us deal with that. Barack Obama sure as hell isn't.
 
How about we set the record fully straight here? Cain did not say he would not have Muslims in his cabinet or as judges.

Clearly Mr. Cain disagrees with you:

Herman Cain Defends Controversial 'Muslim' Comments - Interviews - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

And even if Cain rejected Sharia-supporting Muslim as you are I might reject anarchists or communists or members of the Nazi party in our organization, that would NOT be a violation of the First Amendment.

In addition to your ignorance as to what constitutes a First Amendment violation, you’re also ignorant as to Sharia, as it is in no way like communism or being a member of the Nazi party; it is indeed religion.

To not hire as a public sector employment entity per the president's established policy an individual based solely on his religion – regardless your incorrect ‘understanding’ of that religion - is clearly a violation of the Free Exercise Clause and Federal law with regard to hiring practices.
 
How about we set the record fully straight here? Cain did not say he would not have Muslims in his cabinet or as judges.

Clearly Mr. Cain disagrees with you:

Herman Cain Defends Controversial 'Muslim' Comments - Interviews - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

And even if Cain rejected Sharia-supporting Muslim as you are I might reject anarchists or communists or members of the Nazi party in our organization, that would NOT be a violation of the First Amendment.

In addition to your ignorance as to what constitutes a First Amendment violation, you’re also ignorant as to Sharia, as it is in no way like communism or being a member of the Nazi party; it is indeed religion.

To not hire as a public sector employment entity per the president's established policy an individual based solely on his religion – regardless your incorrect ‘understanding’ of that religion - is clearly a violation of the Free Exercise Clause and Federal law with regard to hiring practices.

I didn't say it would be based solely on religion. Nor did Cain. Nor did I or Cain say that I or he would not hire a Muslim. Neither of us would hire a Muslim who was committed to Sharia law. You don't read or listen carefully do you.

Sharia law is much more than just religion--it is a political system intended to dictate mandates to an entire nation, and eventually the entire world. In that sense it is no different than a committed communist or advocate of Nazi philosophy.

From your link:

CAVUTO: So, what if they told you, a prospective Cabinet member in a Cain administration, look, I'm Muslim, but I -- I would honor all of the above--(the Declaration and the Constitution of the United States and the laws of this country)--and I would not be necessarily for Sharia law?

CAIN: Then, in that case, I would certainly consider that individual.

But, see, my motivation for saying, no, I wouldn't, was based upon the fact that they are trying to push Sharia law off on this country. And I'm simply not going to try and be politically correct in order to help facilitate that.

But if they were to give me a commitment, and they had some very critical skills bring to the administration for the good of this country, of course I would consider them.

Read more: Herman Cain Defends Controversial 'Muslim' Comments - Interviews - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

And I suggest that you might want to bone up the letter and intent of the First Amendment. I seem to have a better grasp on that than you do.
 
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Herman Cain has some crazy-ass plan to raise taxes on the poor and cut taxes on the rich,

which probably explains whatever charm he has for the Right.
 
Best candidate to come along in a while. He could be the savior of america! One in a generation candidate.
 

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