What do you Think is the Best Way to Create Jobs in this Country?

[sealybobo]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

How you gonna do that? I think we need some laws that say x amount of certain products need to be manufactured in the US.

So for example, Ford cars must be 70% manufactured inside the country.

Every country does it, and it works.

Or WE produce wind turbines and sell them to the rest of the world. But we'll probably outsource that to Mexico too.

Totally free markets means companies will go to the cheapest countries. And they will pit poor country agaisnt poor country. If the labor organizes, the company will leave. This is great for corporations, bad for the middle class.

There is a reason America was the best country in the world. It wasn't because we had the richest people in the world living here. It was because we had such a huge strong middle class.

We take it as a given that the middle class will always be here, or that America will always be number one. Maybe Canada or Australia will one day be better for middle class people. If they decide to start manufacturing and they become the largest creditor instead of largest debtor, blabla.

 

[Shogun]

Those are all good ideas so why is it so hard to do this in Washington... oh... because of lobbyists and greedy politicians who only care about themselves...

and some people want to give these people more power.... crazy...

oh, you mean like every WSJ republican that thrashed around on the ground throwing a fucking tantrum when OBAMA TRIED to stipulate a BUY AMERICAN clause in the stimulus package? Is THAT what you meant to say?

 

[ozzmdj]

Promote a Buy American policy and install tariffs on all goods coming from nations who are currently enjoying that "take it up the ass, AMERICA" trade deficit that you people enjoy trying to ignore. Small business can't compete with slave wage loving multinational conglomerates. Wal Mart doesn't promote small business by a long shot.



What a kook the same policies that got us in the GREAT DEPREASION.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Those are all good ideas so why is it so hard to do this in Washington... oh... because of lobbyists and greedy politicians who only care about themselves...

and some people want to give these people more power.... crazy...

oh, you mean like every WSJ republican that thrashed around on the ground throwing a fucking tantrum when OBAMA TRIED to stipulate a BUY AMERICAN clause in the stimulus package? Is THAT what you meant to say?

It was also a violation of almost all of our trade agreements with other countries. don't for get that little pertinent fact.

 

[foggedinn]

I believe it's obvious that the best way to solve all of our problems is to acknowledge me as the God sent master of the world.

I'll simply solve all of our problems through dictatorial fiat. Don't concern yourselves with the details, I'll take care of everything.

Of course, I'll have to consult with my master quite often.

 

[oreo]

Lower the corporate tax rate immediately.

Right now we have the highest corporate tax rate in the WORLD. By lowering it---would encourage business in this country to expand their operations & also be very appealing to foreign corporations to set up operations in this country. With them hiring Americans--the tax revenue base would increase.


"You can't lift the wage earners by punishing the wage payers"

 

[auditor0007]

If we hadn't already wasted $800 billion on a non-stimulating stimulus package, I would suggest another stimulus providing a $5000 to $7500 tax credit to anyone purchasing a new vehicle. Nothing more than that. The cost for 20 million vehicles would be between $100 and $150 billion.

In 2006, new car sales peaked at 17 million units. Last year, sales dropped below 14 million units, and this year is expected to be much worse. I think the economy would get much more bang for the buck out of this type of stimulus as the money from those new car sales would trickle on down through the economy.

 

[auditor0007]

Cut corporate taxes and eliminate capital gains tax and help want ads will take over the struggling newspaper industry.

There is a basic problem with the idea that companies will just start hiring people if you cut their tax rates. The fact is that until people begin consuming goods again at a higher rate, these companies won't be selling enough product to warrant hiring more employees. Demand must be created first in this case because people are so worried about losing their own jobs that they are holding on to as much money as they can.

 

[garyd]

You want to help the economy get the feds out of it. Every thing they touch turns to crap and we've got all the fertilizer we need.

 

[Douger]

The same way they did it the last time this happened. Start a world war.

 

[sparky]

The biggest majority of jobs in this country are created by small businesses so anything that could be done to give small businesses a boost would be a good start. If you want the economy to improve, improve small businesses lot in life. That's where the jobs are.

spot on Black Dog

small biz (read-technically under 500 employees, but the highest % is really mom & pop deals) collectively are the biggest employer, and have created more jobs than all the fortune 500's combined.

yet we are hammered by every faction into submission and stunted growth

especially the government, which sees us as the monetary providers for every crackpot legislation they dream up

if i could simply have ONE request, it would be to get the government off our backs here

look around , look right in your hometown and cities and ask yourselves what our economy could be if all those mom & pop's could hire just ONE employee tommorrow

then ask who's getting those stimulus funds? who's really doing the work? who's making out?

You'll most likely find it's bigger, and many times not so local companies who are manning those infastructure jobs

the expectation is that the smaller crumb-jobs will follow via a trickle-down effect

how'd that work out last time around folks?

 

[code1211]

I'm talking immediately... Like within the next couple of months.... It's obvious the Stimulus isn't doing it...

Do you think if Obama came out and said that he is opening ANWR for drilling jobs would be created? Do think the markets would go up?

The stimulus is doing exactly what it is intended to do:

1. Pay back the UAW for supporting the Obama campaign.
2. Pay back Acorn for supporting the Obama campaign.
3. Provide graft payments to the loyal party planners that supported the Obama campaign.
4. Provide work for contractors who donated to the Obama campaign.

There was never any intention to stimulate the economy.

Where I work, about 300 people come to work everyday. They do so because they are paid to do so. This is an incentive.

The stimulus provides no incentive to spend money by private folks except for the cash for clunkers. Well, guess what? There aren't that many cars being sold. Oh, and you might want to check if the UAW isn't the biggest recipient of the cash as it is spent to maybe get some cars moving off the lots.

You don't stimulate the economy by dribbling a few dollars to those that need them. You have to incent people to spend the money that they have. This multiplies the cash that is going into the economy.

These corrupt graft merchants are making me sick. By comparrison, Nero was an economic genius.

In October, they were saying that this is worst economy since the Great Depression. Now they say they didn't know it was going to be this bad.

Are they liars or are they retarded?

 

[code1211]

I'm talking immediately... Like within the next couple of months.... It's obvious the Stimulus isn't doing it...

Do you think if Obama came out and said that he is opening ANWR for drilling jobs would be created? Do think the markets would go up?

No, its obvious you don't know what you are talking about.

We have only spent 10% of the stimulis so far. One thing we can do is start spending that money.
And we can stop buying shit from other countries just because it'll save a buck or two.

US International Trade Commission rules Chinese tire makers unfairly flooding US market

We have only spent a small fraction to date. The rest is scheduled to be spent in 2010 and following. Another swindle.

We won't stimulate the economy by draining the money away from what and when it needs to be spent. The money you speak of is already allocated and cannot be spent now as it is already committed to pet projects of the Liar in Chief who didn't know that the "Worst Economy since the Great Depression" was a bad economy.

Do you not actually understand what the Enlightened One is saying and then doing. His words are not in step with his actions. This may not be lying, but it is certanly not being honest.

I hope the people continue to awaken before this hack ruins the place.

The guy in the White House is a product of Chicago Politics and his stock in trade in bribes, political pay backs, graft and misappropriation of public funds. Who could have called that one?

 

[editec]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

How you gonna do that?

The usual ways...using both a carrot and a stick.

The carrot might be making it a more lucrative place to make money and keep it, for example.

The stick might be some import tariffs.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Spend more.

Sorry. =\

*takes cover*

 

[code1211]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

Before this boondogle was put in motion, I suggested on this board that the stimulus should be simple and available to anyone who lived indoors.

The government should have committed to pay 50 cents on the dollar as a tax credit to anyone who improved their personnal residence. Whether the expenditure was on a gallon of paint for a rented apartment or a second story expansion on a house, tax credit for every dollar spent of 50 cents.

The trillion dollar stimulus immediately becomes a 3 Trillion dollar stimulus and the whole country gets improved housing. This would have helped every business that has anything to do with housing which is every business that makes anything from the food in the lunch boxes to the trucks they haul the materials to the job site, to the trash removal, tools, glass, plastics, masonry, tiles, wire, hardware fixtures and so on.

That ugly idea, "Trickle Down", would have then passed this cash along through all of the support businesses that those who recieved the cash use and the economy would have IMMEDIATELY sprung into high gear.

This would have improved the entire economy, but it would not have been targeted and therefore directed to those that needed to be bribed and paid back.

The Chicago Gang Organizer had to have his Peeps taken care of and this would not have done the job.

 

[code1211]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

How you gonna do that? I think we need some laws that say x amount of certain products need to be manufactured in the US.
So for example, Ford cars must be 70% manufactured inside the country.

Every country does it, and it works.

Or WE produce wind turbines and sell them to the rest of the world. But we'll probably outsource that to Mexico too.

Totally free markets means companies will go to the cheapest countries. And they will pit poor country agaisnt poor country. If the labor organizes, the company will leave. This is great for corporations, bad for the middle class.

There is a reason America was the best country in the world. It wasn't because we had the richest people in the world living here. It was because we had such a huge strong middle class.

We take it as a given that the middle class will always be here, or that America will always be number one. Maybe Canada or Australia will one day be better for middle class people. If they decide to start manufacturing and they become the largest creditor instead of largest debtor, blabla.

You are trying to legislate the desire to buy into the hearts of the public?

Your prescription is the same on used in the 30's. Great thinking!

 

[Toro]

Cut payroll taxes for at least a year.

 

[Annie]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

Considering this:

...How important are small businesses to
the U.S. economy?
Small fi rms:
• Represent 99.7 percent of all employer fi rms.
• Employ about half of all private sector employees.
• Pay nearly 45 percent of total U.S. private payroll.
• Have generated 60 to 80 percent of net new jobs annually
over the last decade.
• Create more than half of nonfarm private gross domestic
product (GDP).
• Hire 40 percent of high tech workers (such as scientists,
engineers, and computer workers).
• Are 52 percent home-based and 2 percent franchises.
• Made up 97.3 percent of all identifi ed exporters and pro-
duced 28.9 percent of the known export value in FY 2006.
• Produce 13 times more patents per employee than large
patenting fi rms; these patents are twice as likely as large
fi rm patents to be among the one percent most cited.
Source: U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of the Census and International
Trade Administration; Advocacy-funded research by Kathryn Kobe, 2007
(www.sba.gov/advo/research/rs299tot.pdf) and CHI Research, 2003 (www.
sba.gov/advo/research/rs225tot.pdf); Federal Procurement Data System;
U.S. Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics.Source: Offi ce of Advocacy estimates based on data from the U.S. Dept. of
Commerce, Bureau of the Census, and U.S. Dept. of Labor, Employment and
Training Administration...

It's natural to ask, 'how does the government encourage the further development and growth of small businesses?'

By tightening credit through government regulations?
By increasing taxes on the owners of small businesses?
By increasing minimum wage?
By measures such as card check?

 

[code1211]

Easy to describe, but politically difficult to do.

Make it worth the while of investors to create industry in THIS NATION.

How you gonna do that?

The usual ways...using both a carrot and a stick.

The carrot might be making it a more lucrative place to make money and keep it, for example.

The stick might be some import tariffs.

Carrot and stick is the right idea, but you need to incent people to spend money. If people are induced to save money because they are scared to death that the bottom is about fall out completely, you might see some saving as opposed to spending.

If the incentive is stong enough, the saving will continue at a diminished rate and the spending will begin. Each small expenditure will build on the last and soon a flood will occur and the problem is over. It's like rain drops.

Obama and his Merry Men need to have control over the flow so they will not allow the rain drop approach to start. They need to be sure that anything that is done is tracable back to them. As a result they are running around with a garden hose spraying the droplets where and when they see fit.

You don't incent spending by giving people more cash. You incent spending by creating the opportunity to recieve a greater value.