What do you consider yourself?

What do you consider yourself to be?

  • Republican

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Democrat

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Independant

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Tea Party activist

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • Don't vote

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    29
It's likely Libertarian drug policy Joe likes.

Liberty, Liberal, Libertarian... :eusa_think: Coincidence?

Government is a useful tool, except for all the goddamn rules and paperwork.

The words liberty and liberal should not be used in the same sentence.

Which is sad. Friedrich Hayek often wondered how American liberals ('true' liberals, that is) allowed the word 'liberal' to be hijacked by a bunch of marxist wackos. Now it's a dirty word, yet the dictionary definition of 'liberal' describes my beliefs perfectly. Very sad.
 
I agree with the OP that most pretend to not be a part of a party that they're clearly a part of.

No matter what you call yourself, if you wound up voting for the Republican party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Republican. If you wound up voting for the Democratic party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Democrat. You can consider yourself to be and perhaps even be not a lockstep party follower (although there are tens of millions of those yet no one who self-describes that way) but if your vote reliably goes to that party then that's what your political identity is. Actions speak louder than words.

I'm between Other and Don't Vote, though Independent works for both too it usually suggests someone who goes back and forth between the major parties. In 1996 I voted for Mary Hollis, in 2004 and 2008 I voted Nader. On local ballots, I've voted for Green, Libertarian, and write-in candidates and for one Democrat judge. I don't think I'll ever be voting again though.

I consider myself a Libertarian Socialist.
 
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It's likely Libertarian drug policy Joe likes.

Liberty, Liberal, Libertarian... :eusa_think: Coincidence?

Government is a useful tool, except for all the goddamn rules and paperwork.

The words liberty and liberal should not be used in the same sentence.

Why? They come from the same root. To deny the historic definition of 'liberal' is to deny the liberty sought by the people who invented America.
 
Liberty, Liberal, Libertarian... :eusa_think: Coincidence?

Government is a useful tool, except for all the goddamn rules and paperwork.

The words liberty and liberal should not be used in the same sentence.

Which is sad. Friedrich Hayek often wondered how American liberals ('true' liberals, that is) allowed the word 'liberal' to be hijacked by a bunch of marxist wackos. Now it's a dirty word, yet the dictionary definition of 'liberal' describes my beliefs perfectly. Very sad.

It's only sad if you let the terrorists win and give up your God-given right to be a proud, card carrying American Liberal who knows what the fuck he's talking about because he took the time to understand history.
 
I'm a rational anarchist. Maximum personal liberty with maximum responsibility. However, as a society we are obligated to help those who are unable to help themselves.
Not the ones who choose not to, but the ones who are physically or mentally unable.

That is the social contract we as humans hold to.
 
I agree with the OP that most pretend to not be a part of a party that they're clearly a part of.

No matter what you call yourself, if you wound up voting for the Republican party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Republican. If you wound up voting for the Democratic party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Democrat. You can consider yourself to be and perhaps even be not a lockstep party follower (although there are tens of millions of those yet no one who self-describes that way) but if your vote reliably goes to that party then that's what your political identity is. Actions speak louder than words.

I'm between Other and Don't Vote, though Independent works for both too it usually suggests someone who goes back and forth between the major parties. In 1996 I voted for Mary Hollis, in 2004 and 2008 I voted Nader. On local ballots, I've voted for Green, Libertarian, and write-in candidates and for one Democrat judge. I don't think I'll ever be voting again though.

I consider myself a Libertarian Socialist.

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Conservative

Self interested, thinking and analytical Conservative

What's the definition of "conservative" for you guys?



I'm pretty sure that anyone's definition of what they believe themselves to be differs from what others observe them to be.

"I'm starting to think that I'm not the man that I thought everyone thought I was."
- Charlie Harper.

That said, from where I sit, a Conservative is one who believes that the last place to look for any solution for anything should be from the Government and that it should be sought there only when there is a desperate need and there are no options left that have not been thorougly explored.

My view of a Liberal is that the first place any sloution is sought is the government or any authority that can remove responsibility for achievement and if someone's rights can be diminished or controlled in the process, a Liberal will be that much more happy.

Conservatives endorse the freedom and the ability of the individual while Liberals bemoan the servitude and weakness of the individual.

Choosing to be a Liberal is choosing to be a controlled dron.

Choosing to be a Conservative is choosing to be a free agent.

I am constantly amazed and disappointed that anyone freely proclaims themself to be a Liberal. It's no different than admitting weakness, failure, inability and dispair.
 
I agree with the OP that most pretend to not be a part of a party that they're clearly a part of.

No matter what you call yourself, if you wound up voting for the Republican party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Republican. If you wound up voting for the Democratic party candidate in the last 3 presidential elections, then you're a Democrat. You can consider yourself to be and perhaps even be not a lockstep party follower (although there are tens of millions of those yet no one who self-describes that way) but if your vote reliably goes to that party then that's what your political identity is. Actions speak louder than words.

I'm between Other and Don't Vote, though Independent works for both too it usually suggests someone who goes back and forth between the major parties. In 1996 I voted for Mary Hollis, in 2004 and 2008 I voted Nader. On local ballots, I've voted for Green, Libertarian, and write-in candidates and for one Democrat judge. I don't think I'll ever be voting again though.

I consider myself a Libertarian Socialist.

Then now more bitchen,no vote no say. People have to chose whats put in front of them,sometimes you hold your nose and pull the lever,in new york you can't vote in the primaries as an independent so your stuck.
 
Former Republican believing in fiscal responsibility, now Independent but voting more Democratic than Republican. The Republican Party has jumped off the deep end as far as I'm concerned and is now controlled by far right wing nutcases. You can no longer be a fiscally responsible Republican if you have any moderate views whatsoever.
 

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