What do AGW 'Deniers' actually deny?

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    I don't know anyone who denies that temperatures have gone up. Are you a denier if you think it is natural warming with a small anthropogenic component?

    I don't know anyone who denies that CO2 is a greenhouse gas that has an impact on global temperatures. Are you a denier if you disbelieve the 1C increase for doubling CO2 magically turns into 5C after it is put into a computer climate model?

    I could go on about many other things but I am interested in what the alarmists on this board consider the hallmarks of a 'Denier'.
     
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    The link between higher GHGs and higher temps. Logically, if you have the first, how can you expect anything but the second?
     
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    That is pretty vague. There aren't many deniers here if that is the definition.
     
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    Then with what do you lay blame for earlier warming events?
     
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    They're trying to "deny" Algore any more money.
     
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    Mankind is too insignificant to affect the climate. We can poison our environment and kill ourselves off that way, but change the weather? No. Not hardly. Not when nature outdoes us in all aspects by a scale of hundreds or thousands to one in scale.
     
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    Interesting point. Are you implying that the alarmists are 'denying' natural variation?
     
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    There were earlier warming periods, coming from Chicago I realize that there were glaciers here at one time, but not for a long time. So, what caused that warming? Nothing Kyoto and such would be able to address.
     
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    I agree with you that the Kyoto Accord is unmanagable and of little known impact but I was really looking to find what the characteristics of a 'denier' are.
     
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    Mankind certainly impacts his environment. What is your definition of significant? One part in a thousand, 5 in a 100, 50/50?
     

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