What creates jobs?

[Barb]

Guys who create things other people want to buy create jobs.

You can demand all you want but if there's nobody there to produce, all your demand isn't worth a popcorn fart.

The only way to attain economic growth is by making sure there are enough consumers with disposable income. No rich guy is going to open a factory unless there is demand for his goods.

Yeah...I knew that this was where we were going....Covetousness and calls for expropriation and redistribution.

Well guess what, Scooter?...There was no demand for things like hula hoops, the Frisbee and the hackey sack until some entrepreneur took a chance and produced.

Like I said, demand all you want, but if there's nobody around with the gonads to take a chance and produce, or if the economic environment is too filled with envious little looters to make any effort worthwhile, then all the demand in the world couldn't fill a little brown paper sack.

Polly want a saltine?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

There are some who think that coddling the rich will create jobs. That if those very rich had just a few more advantages, they would open their considerable purses and let the wealth flow like manna from heaven.

Do tax cuts create the opportunity for job growth? Does someone summering in the Hamptons glance at his 1040 and sudden decide to open a factory because his marginal rate has been cut from 39% to 35%?

No.

Demand creates jobs. Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Evidently Dear Ruler thinks sidewalks create jobs. He has spent millions of stimulus dollars in Oklahoma City building sidewalks where none ever existed. Evidently there was a demand for them, because he's built them everywhere. In fact, there must have been a demand to replace existing sidewalks to, because many old ones were ripped up and replaced.

And the people who worked to build those sidewalks?
Did they pay taxes on their income? Did they pay the rent, the mortgage, the lights and gas? Did they register their cars, inspect them, buy tires and oil and gas for them? Did they, maybe, get their kid a kite, or a bicycle, or a Popsicle? Maybe the wifey got a new coat, or shoes. Maybe the excess was squandered in a local bar, or a strip club, or a brothel...

in ANY case, it increased tax revenues and economic activity all around.

Bastiat: Selected Essays, Chapter 1, What Is Seen and What Is Not Seen | Library of Economics and Liberty

 

[uscitizen]

Strange that we built incredible things in the USA prior to 1980, went to the moon and everything and had around 700 billion in national debt. But since then our infrastructure has declined, we became a debtor nation, and we are 15 trillion or thereabouts in debt.

And it is not all Obama's fault.

 

[kaz]

Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Well, since the top 5% of taxpayers pay 60% of all federal taxes and the bottom 50% pay zero, who's taxes are you going to cut to create demand exactly besides the "wealthy?"

 

[starcraftzzz]

Increased productivity -> increased wages and profits -> increased aggregate demand -> increased aggregate supply -> increased jobs.

Increased productivity does not generate increased wages, unless labor has the effective bargaining power (through high labor demand and unions) to INSIST that it do so.

There's the flaw in your logical progression.

Bullshit.

Non-union individuals ask for and get raises all the time.

There's the glaring flaw in your socialistic presumptions....That the individual is too wimpy to watch out after himself.

Like always you are wrong.
It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones
^After tax income since 1979 for the bottom 80% of Americans has decreased. For the top 1% of Americans their income has skyrocketed by over 120%.
^The top 20% own over 85% of the nation’s wealth.
^Americans think the top 20% only own 60% of the wealth.
^Americans would like the top 20% to only own 30% of the wealth.

 

[starcraftzzz]

Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Well, since the top 5% of taxpayers pay 60% of all federal taxes and the bottom 50% pay zero, who's taxes are you going to cut to create demand exactly besides the "wealthy?"

Um actually you are 100% wrong. The bottom 40% of Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes. The next 20% pays 27% of their income in taxes.

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf

 

[Skull Pilot]

Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Well, since the top 5% of taxpayers pay 60% of all federal taxes and the bottom 50% pay zero, who's taxes are you going to cut to create demand exactly besides the "wealthy?"

Um actually you are 100% wrong. The bottom 40% of Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes. The next 20% pays 27% of their income in taxes.

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf

The percent of all taxes collected and the percent of one's income that is paid in taxes are not the same thing.

National Taxpayers Union - Who Pays Income Taxes?

 

[Intense]

Guys who create things other people want to buy create jobs.

You can demand all you want but if there's nobody there to produce, all your demand isn't worth a popcorn fart.

Neither is your production, if enough people don't have the money to buy.

When Government is not involved, overstock generally brings on a Sale. Government likes to destroy surplus. Very Selfish.

 

[kwc57]

There are some who think that coddling the rich will create jobs. That if those very rich had just a few more advantages, they would open their considerable purses and let the wealth flow like manna from heaven.

Do tax cuts create the opportunity for job growth? Does someone summering in the Hamptons glance at his 1040 and sudden decide to open a factory because his marginal rate has been cut from 39% to 35%?

No.

Demand creates jobs. Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Evidently Dear Ruler thinks sidewalks create jobs. He has spent millions of stimulus dollars in Oklahoma City building sidewalks where none ever existed. Evidently there was a demand for them, because he's built them everywhere. In fact, there must have been a demand to replace existing sidewalks to, because many old ones were ripped up and replaced.

And the people who worked to build those sidewalks?
Did they pay taxes on their income? Did they pay the rent, the mortgage, the lights and gas? Did they register their cars, inspect them, buy tires and oil and gas for them? Did they, maybe, get their kid a kite, or a bicycle, or a Popsicle? Maybe the wifey got a new coat, or shoes. Maybe the excess was squandered in a local bar, or a strip club, or a brothel...

in ANY case, it increased tax revenues and economic activity all around.

Yes, artifically......for a short time. And they are hardly ever used as there was no demand for them.

 

[Intense]

Strange that we built incredible things in the USA prior to 1980, went to the moon and everything and had around 700 billion in national debt. But since then our infrastructure has declined, we became a debtor nation, and we are 15 trillion or thereabouts in debt.

And it is not all Obama's fault.

Actually the change came with Kennedy's change in Immigration Policy, Bottom Feeding for Democratic Votes. No offense.

 

[Widdekind]

Does investment take place with low demand? If there isn't enough disposable income among the consumer class, why would someone invest to expand production? Wouldn't that lead to full warehouses and idle workers?

naively, if the "current economy" is "idling"; then Investment would "venture capital" for entrepreneurs to develop new-and-better Products (Goods, Services) ?

 

[Nosmo King]

Does investment take place with low demand? If there isn't enough disposable income among the consumer class, why would someone invest to expand production? Wouldn't that lead to full warehouses and idle workers?

naively, if the "current economy" is "idling"; then Investment would "venture capital" for entrepreneurs to develop new-and-better Products (Goods, Services) ?

It's time then for those venture Capitalists to earn back a modicum of respect and put the economy in drive. We've been idling long enough.

But sequestering that wealth does nothing to make economic growth happen. And ceding the majority of wealth, and that means power, among so few runs counter to a dynamic economy. Where on this planet does an economy that is so top heavy and so desperate for so many ever worked? Other than the antebellum South?

 

[Oddball]

Increased productivity does not generate increased wages, unless labor has the effective bargaining power (through high labor demand and unions) to INSIST that it do so.

There's the flaw in your logical progression.

Bullshit.

Non-union individuals ask for and get raises all the time.

There's the glaring flaw in your socialistic presumptions....That the individual is too wimpy to watch out after himself.

Like always you are wrong.
It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones
^After tax income since 1979 for the bottom 80% of Americans has decreased. For the top 1% of Americans their income has skyrocketed by over 120%.
^The top 20% own over 85% of the nation’s wealth.
^Americans think the top 20% only own 60% of the wealth.
^Americans would like the top 20% to only own 30% of the wealth.

Mother Jones?....Seriously?

 

[code1211]

Does investment take place with low demand? If there isn't enough disposable income among the consumer class, why would someone invest to expand production? Wouldn't that lead to full warehouses and idle workers?

naively, if the "current economy" is "idling"; then Investment would "venture capital" for entrepreneurs to develop new-and-better Products (Goods, Services) ?

It's time then for those venture Capitalists to earn back a modicum of respect and put the economy in drive. We've been idling long enough.

But sequestering that wealth does nothing to make economic growth happen. And ceding the majority of wealth, and that means power, among so few runs counter to a dynamic economy. Where on this planet does an economy that is so top heavy and so desperate for so many ever worked? Other than the antebellum South?

Are you saying that other countries have no rich people?

 

[8537]

naively, if the "current economy" is "idling"; then Investment would "venture capital" for entrepreneurs to develop new-and-better Products (Goods, Services) ?

It's time then for those venture Capitalists to earn back a modicum of respect and put the economy in drive. We've been idling long enough.

But sequestering that wealth does nothing to make economic growth happen. And ceding the majority of wealth, and that means power, among so few runs counter to a dynamic economy. Where on this planet does an economy that is so top heavy and so desperate for so many ever worked? Other than the antebellum South?

Are you saying that other countries have no rich people?

"other countries" don't have the income disparity that the US has. At least the wealthy ones.

They have rich people, of course.

 

[itfitzme]

Guys who create things other people want to buy create jobs.

You can demand all you want but if there's nobody there to produce, all your demand isn't worth a popcorn fart.

The only way to attain economic growth is by making sure there are enough consumers with disposable income. No rich guy is going to open a factory unless there is demand for his goods.

Yeah...I knew that this was where we were going....Covetousness and calls for expropriation and redistribution.

Well guess what, Scooter?...There was no demand for things like hula hoops, the Frisbee and the hackey sack until some entrepreneur took a chance and produced.

Like I said, demand all you want, but if there's nobody around with the gonads to take a chance and produce, or if the economic environment is too filled with envious little looters to make any effort worthwhile, then all the demand in the world couldn't fill a little brown paper sack.

Now I understand why your such a moron. You believe that the only new demand is for products that don't exist yet. You have no vision of the actual functioning economy.

Just because the only new demand you hear about is the sales of a new I-pod by Apple doesn't mean that is the majority of new demand.

Guess what, scooter? The majority of increasing demand is for products that already exist. When demand increases at Safeway, the tens of thousands of local dentists, existing DVD sales at Blockbuster, that is all increased demand.

You have been living with this fantasy that you are going to come up with some great new get rich quick gizmo and join the uber wealthy. And in your fixation, you completely miss all the little details of how the economy actually functions.

 

[uscitizen]

The only way to attain economic growth is by making sure there are enough consumers with disposable income. No rich guy is going to open a factory unless there is demand for his goods.

Yeah...I knew that this was where we were going....Covetousness and calls for expropriation and redistribution.

Well guess what, Scooter?...There was no demand for things like hula hoops, the Frisbee and the hackey sack until some entrepreneur took a chance and produced.

Like I said, demand all you want, but if there's nobody around with the gonads to take a chance and produce, or if the economic environment is too filled with envious little looters to make any effort worthwhile, then all the demand in the world couldn't fill a little brown paper sack.

Now I understand why your such a moron. You believe that the only new demand is for products that don't exist yet. You have no vision of the actual functioning economy.

Just because the only new demand you hear about is the sales of a new I-pod by Apple doesn't mean that is the majority of new demand.

Guess what, scooter? The majority of increasing demand is for products that already exist. When demand increases at Safeway, the tens of thousands of local dentists, existing DVD sales at Blockbuster, that is all increased demand.

You have been living with this fantasy that you are going to come up with some great new get rich quick gizmo and join the uber wealthy. And in your fixation, you completely miss all the little details of how the economy actually functions.

Existing DVD sales at Blockbuster?
They still in business? They all closed around here.

 

[itfitzme]

There are some who think that coddling the rich will create jobs. That if those very rich had just a few more advantages, they would open their considerable purses and let the wealth flow like manna from heaven.

Do tax cuts create the opportunity for job growth? Does someone summering in the Hamptons glance at his 1040 and sudden decide to open a factory because his marginal rate has been cut from 39% to 35%?

No.

Demand creates jobs. Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

Are rich people not consumers? I have to assume the person summering in the Hamptons is spending money.

Which is more demand in the market place, a thousand rich people buying Corvettes, yachts, and mansions in the Hamptons or ten thousand middle income workers buying new homes and home improvement materials? How about compared to five million lower income workers spending the extra $50 a week from there paychecks on more food?

The answer is, people summering at the Hamptons have less propensity to spend compared to the lower and middle income levels. Not only do they have less propensity to spend, there are far fewer of them.

On two counts, wealthy create less demand.

 

[itfitzme]

Guys who create things other people want to buy create jobs.

You can demand all you want but if there's nobody there to produce, all your demand isn't worth a popcorn fart.

Increasing demand for existing product creates jobs, we don't need new products or companies to do so. There is where your mind fart is, failing to understand that the majority of increased demand is for existing products. It doesn't take a new invention to increase demand or jobs.

So you can demand all you want for more Starbucks coffee, gasoline, a larger jar of peanut butter, DVD rentals, and a host of products that already exists.

You should spend less time watching the news and go outside and watch what people actually buy. What people buy is demand and increasing that is increasing demand.

 

[yidnar]

There are some who think that coddling the rich will create jobs. That if those very rich had just a few more advantages, they would open their considerable purses and let the wealth flow like manna from heaven.

Do tax cuts create the opportunity for job growth? Does someone summering in the Hamptons glance at his 1040 and sudden decide to open a factory because his marginal rate has been cut from 39% to 35%?

No.

Demand creates jobs. Customers with cash in their hands clamoring for the goods produced creates jobs. It creates economic expansion and thus job growth.

Should more money be concentrated among the very wealthy or should more consumers enjoy tax relief and therefore more disposable income?

let me guess higher taxes,skyrocketing gas prices,a 16 trillion dollar debt ,cutting the military,crippling NASA ???