What created the Oklahoma City bomber

[Xenophon]

YouTube - Timothy James McVeigh Tribute

There are people today who think McVeigh is a hero.

Just like McVeigh thought Koresh was a hero

You believe Bill is a hero and he wants to shut down all opposition to his party.

Seems like you and the Tim lovers are different sides of the same coin.

No only those who refuse to see that propaganda cna cause a violent reaction.

History is repeting itself and you are trashing the people who want to stop the next Murrah building bombing.

There is the proof, she is just like the Tim lovers, different side of the same coin.

 

[Truthmatters]

You're all so very wrong.

The Tea Party is what caused McVeigh to commit OKC bombing. MSNBC told me so. Didn't you guys watch it???????

I think you are not bright enough to understand anything if you really believe what you just claimed

 

[Truthmatters]

Tim would fit right into the tea party philosophy

 

[martybegan]

This guy's excessive use of force, killing the Branch Davidians at Waco.

If you believe anything else you are delussional.

Agreed. Clinton wouldn't have had to bomb the Murrah building and blame it on patriotic groups if he and Reno hadn't set out to murder our fellow Americans in Waco and Ruby Ridge, thereby awakening Americans to the thugs who have taken control of our government.

Sure it's possible that McVeigh could have loaded up a Ryder truck with fertilizer, but when and how did he plant the large, sophisticated explosives that bomb crews removed afterwards from inside the building? They weren't included in the trial and they weren't investigated by the government. This was a top-level op with Clinton probably at (or near) the helm, and McVeigh as the scapegoat.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk]YouTube - Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage[/ame]

Wait? OKC Bombing was done by the government? First time I've heard that one.

New wack-job conspiracy theories are always fun the first time you hear them!

 

[martybegan]

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The cat says you were muy tiny BTW.

Same joke is same. By now If I were my old self I would have gotten into mother jokes, then probably started to call you a basement dweller. What thell has happened to trolling these days? No effort whatsoever.

 

[Xenophon]

Tim would fit right into the tea party philosophy

You would fit right in with teh Nazi Party.

 

[elvis]

Tim would fit right into the tea party philosophy

You tell 'em, Magda.

 

[Xenophon]

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The cat says you were muy tiny BTW.

Same joke is same. By now If I were my old self I would have gotten into mother jokes, then probably started to call you a basement dweller. What thell has happened to trolling these days? No effort whatsoever.

The Cat says you wern't worth the 3 seconds.

 

[martybegan]

The cat says you were muy tiny BTW.

Same joke is same. By now If I were my old self I would have gotten into mother jokes, then probably started to call you a basement dweller. What thell has happened to trolling these days? No effort whatsoever.

The Cat says you wern't worth the 3 seconds.

Same joke is same.

 

[Xenophon]

Same joke is same. By now If I were my old self I would have gotten into mother jokes, then probably started to call you a basement dweller. What thell has happened to trolling these days? No effort whatsoever.

The Cat says you wern't worth the 3 seconds.

Same joke is same.

What's the matter cat fucker, no snappy comeback?

No woder the cat dumped you.

 

[Yurt]

This guy's excessive use of force, killing the Branch Davidians at Waco.

If you believe anything else you are delussional.

i'm always surprised when you sink to that type of thing. aside from the fact that david koresh was a pedophile and was insane. using that as an excuse for killing babies in a daycare center is no better than jihadis purported reasons for engaging in terrorism.

I'm surprised you and many others here never understand these things.

Did you leap up and protest when clinton made the ludicrous comments that talk radio and tea parties would cause more bombers?

No?

Did you take him to task for his monumental hypocrisy and attempts to get political play out of it, knowing full well they had no link whatsover to crazy bombers?

No?

This is what xotoxi never understood either when he would ask why i posted polls, its to make people like you jill examine what REALLY goes on in the hyper partisan minds of politics and how they lie, manipulate and demonize to get what they want and fuck all of us.

Clinton should have been denouced as a facist jerk for claiming protestors and talk radio would lead to another bomber, instead we saw heads nodding in agreement with that bullshit.

WAKE UP.

this

all the people who have gone after xeno for this thread were silent or supportive of those who blame right wing talk radio, gun nuts etc....

 

[bucs90]

Tim would fit right into the tea party philosophy

Bill Ayers = Tim McVeigh, only Ayers was dumber and had no military training. If he did, he would've been as bad as McVeigh or worse.

Yet, lefties feel their savior, Obama, having started his campaign in the living room of Bill "Dumb McVeigh" Ayers is OK. Your savior is buddies with a guy who, if he had military training, would've been worse than McVeigh, and who admitted recently his only regret is "We didn't do more." No, Mr. Ayers, you didn't do more because you didn't have the bomb making or military training of Tim McVeigh. If you had, you would've surely done much, much more. And I'm sure Obama would've still been friends with him.

So, what seperates Obama's friendship with Ayers from a friendship with McVeigh? Body count. Seriously. If Ayers had the high body count, Obama would never publicy befriend him. It would be political suicide. But since Ayers bombings and body count were minor in comparison, he got away with being friends with him.

 

[martybegan]

The Cat says you wern't worth the 3 seconds.

Same joke is same.

What's the matter cat fucker, no snappy comeback?

No woder the cat dumped you.

THERE WE GO!

A little more life in your response. Good for you! Its still the same joke, but the foul language does add to it a bit. Now like I said, the key is to segway from cat fuck jokes into something else. I would go back to the noob thing, you really didn't develop it enough. My post count is low enough that you should be able to get at least 10-12 posts worth of material. Try to blend it with the cat fucking, since that seems to be your motif with this troll round.

Getting better. I am expecting great things from this chain.

 

[jillian]

Bill Ayers = Tim McVeigh, only Ayers was dumber and had no military training. If he did, he would've been as bad as McVeigh or worse.

Yet, lefties feel their savior, Obama, having started his campaign in the living room of Bill "Dumb McVeigh" Ayers is OK. Your savior is buddies with a guy who, if he had military training, would've been worse than McVeigh, and who admitted recently his only regret is "We didn't do more." No, Mr. Ayers, you didn't do more because you didn't have the bomb making or military training of Tim McVeigh. If you had, you would've surely done much, much more. And I'm sure Obama would've still been friends with him.

So, what seperates Obama's friendship with Ayers from a friendship with McVeigh? Body count. Seriously. If Ayers had the high body count, Obama would never publicy befriend him. It would be political suicide. But since Ayers bombings and body count were minor in comparison, he got away with being friends with him.

1. you know nothing.
2. whatever ayers did was part of a genuine counterculture movement in its day. he since became a model citizen.
3. ayers is no one's savior... so making up things and then criticizing the pretend people who believe what you made up is really stupid.
4. mcveigh was a terrorist who killed babies in daycare. he was no better than lowlife jihadis and your defending him is insane as well.
5. if someone was 'friends' with mcveigh and had nothing to do with his terroristic acts or ideas, who gives a rat's patoot?

nutbar.

 

[Misty]

It's men's fault. If women ran the world none of this violence crap would be happening and everything would be on sale. The world would be pretty and smell nice.

 

[Shorebreak]

This guy's excessive use of force, killing the Branch Davidians at Waco.

If you believe anything else you are delussional.

Agreed. Clinton wouldn't have had to bomb the Murrah building and blame it on patriotic groups if he and Reno hadn't set out to murder our fellow Americans in Waco and Ruby Ridge, thereby awakening Americans to the thugs who have taken control of our government.

Sure it's possible that McVeigh could have loaded up a Ryder truck with fertilizer, but when and how did he plant the large, sophisticated explosives that bomb crews removed afterwards from inside the building? They weren't included in the trial and they weren't investigated by the government. This was a top-level op with Clinton probably at (or near) the helm, and McVeigh as the scapegoat.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk]YouTube - Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage[/ame]

Wait? OKC Bombing was done by the government? First time I've heard that one.

New wack-job conspiracy theories are always fun the first time you hear them!

It is a whack-job conspiracy, but it's not a theory. The additional undetonated bombs that were found were never included in the investigation. Even though - as one astute reporter pointed out during the aftermath of the bombing - the composition of those explosives would be like the fingerprint, telling investigators exactly who was responsible for the attacks. The bombs were never entered as evidence in the case.

Additionally, throughout the investigation leading up to trial, there were at least 10 surveillance videos that the government refused to release to media, citing their importance for trial as justification for not revealing their contents. As a result, almost every news station in Oklahoma City began putting together their own re-enactment of the events leading up to the explosions, based on multiple eye-witness testimonies. They came up with a story that included multiple accomplices and at least two occupants in the Rider truck.

Ultimately, none of the video from the front of the Murrah building was used during the trial to prove that McVeigh ws the culprit. In fact, after the trial, the government refused (and still refuses) to release the video footage, citing national security concerns.

I agree with those concerns, BTW. The security of many government officials will be in serious jeopardy if the American people ever discover what really happened in Oklahoma City.

If you have any doubts that a cover-up has taken place, do a google search for "Jesse Trentadue". This story by a former Reagan official gives some initial background:
The Trentadue Coverup

 

[Ravi]

Without Waco, McVeigh would mostly likely just lived a bitter, outcast type of life. Waco was the catalyst that caused him to become completely unhinged.

It is part of the Clinton Legacy.

So, using your "logic", people don't kill people, guns do?

Your understanding of logic is sorely lacking.

McVeigh in his own words said that he committed the bombing as revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge.".

The government committed actions that he felt were wrong. How is that at all analogous to an inanimate object?

McVeigh was a sick, unhinged individual with a deep fear of government power. When he learned of what what he viewed as an abuse of that power, he lost it. Does the Clinton Administration's fault justify his actions? No. Did Waco influence McVeigh? Yes.

So then you must also believe all acts of right wing violence are the fault of someone else.

Amazing.

 

[Xenophon]

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No, kittens in general can't get restraining orders on you, but you really should leave them alone cat fucker.

 

[Xenophon]

Bill Ayers = Tim McVeigh, only Ayers was dumber and had no military training. If he did, he would've been as bad as McVeigh or worse.

Yet, lefties feel their savior, Obama, having started his campaign in the living room of Bill "Dumb McVeigh" Ayers is OK. Your savior is buddies with a guy who, if he had military training, would've been worse than McVeigh, and who admitted recently his only regret is "We didn't do more." No, Mr. Ayers, you didn't do more because you didn't have the bomb making or military training of Tim McVeigh. If you had, you would've surely done much, much more. And I'm sure Obama would've still been friends with him.

So, what seperates Obama's friendship with Ayers from a friendship with McVeigh? Body count. Seriously. If Ayers had the high body count, Obama would never publicy befriend him. It would be political suicide. But since Ayers bombings and body count were minor in comparison, he got away with being friends with him.

1. you know nothing.
2. whatever ayers did was part of a genuine counterculture movement in its day. he since became a model citizen.
3. ayers is no one's savior... so making up things and then criticizing the pretend people who believe what you made up is really stupid.
4. mcveigh was a terrorist who killed babies in daycare. he was no better than lowlife jihadis and your defending him is insane as well.
5. if someone was 'friends' with mcveigh and had nothing to do with his terroristic acts or ideas, who gives a rat's patoot?

nutbar.

Ayers was a terrorist who blew up buildings and part of a group that murdered police officers.

He and Timmy are fucking soul mates, and Ayers is far from a model citizen, he's a prime example of how rules can sometimes allow criminals to beat teh system.

 

[Ravi]

Ayers was a terrorist who blew up buildings and part of a group that murdered police officers.

Nixon's fault.