What conservatism does to people.

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    Liberals in the United States have been losing political debates to conservatives for a quarter century. In order to start winning again, liberals must answer two simple questions: what is conservatism, and what is wrong with it? As it happens, the answers to these questions are also simple:


    Q: What is conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
    Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

    These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.
    //1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism

    From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

    The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.

    The defenders of aristocracy represent aristocracy as a natural phenomenon, but in reality it is the most artificial thing on earth. Although one of the goals of every aristocracy is to make its preferred social order seem permanent and timeless, in reality conservatism must be reinvented in every generation. This is true for many reasons, including internal conflicts among the aristocrats; institutional shifts due to climate, markets, or warfare; and ideological gains and losses in the perpetual struggle against democracy. In some societies the aristocracy is rigid, closed, and stratified, while in others it is more of an aspiration among various fluid and factionalized groups. The situation in the United States right now is toward the latter end of the spectrum. A main goal in life of all aristocrats, however, is to pass on their positions of privilege to their children, and many of the aspiring aristocrats of the United States are appointing their children to positions in government and in the archipelago of think tanks that promote conservative theories.

    Conservatism in every place and time is founded on deception. The deceptions of conservatism today are especially sophisticated, simply because culture today is sufficiently democratic that the myths of earlier times will no longer suffice.

    Before analyzing current-day conservatism's machinery of deception, let us outline the main arguments of conservatism. Although these arguments have changed little through history, they might seem unfamiliar to many people today, indeed even to people who claim to be conservatives. That unfamiliarity is a very recent phenomenon. Yet it is only through the classical arguments and their fallacies that we can begin to analyze how conservatism operates now.
    What Is Conservatism and What Is Wrong with It?

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    You forgot the most important. It allows us to breathe polluted air and drink polluted water with no negative side effects whatsoever and magically pass those abilities on to our wives, children, grandkids, parents, etc.
     
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    When you start off with inherently false statements

    "Q: What is conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
    Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world."

    You know the rest is absolute bullshit as well...
     
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    Are you what heroin does to people?

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    Mentally inept thread creator can not use google to discover that European and American conservatism has different definitions.

    Insert your LOL here. Typical brainwashed fool.

    Do yourself a favor, Shit Dancer. Do some research on the term "liberal." Find out when it was first used and what it first meant. Now, compare that to the views of say, your favorite liberal politician of modern times...Nancy Pelosi for example. Are they similar? Different? Show your work.

    After, look up when conservative was first used, what it meant. Now compare that to a prominent conservative politician or thinker. Marco Rubio for example. Are they similar? Different? Show your work.
     
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    CON$ervatism is a hate religion.
     
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    hey, shit stain, feel free to answer the two questions i posed as well.
     
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    She forgot that basic conservative belief involves tearing the wings off kittens.

    Another troll stupid waste of time thread.
     
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    So sayeth someone who worships at the hate altar...

    Good job...:thup:
     
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    con·serv·a·tive
       /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ Show Spelled[kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
    2.
    cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
    3.
    traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
    4.
    (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
    5.
    (initial capital letter) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.
    EXPAND
    6.
    having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.
    7.
    Mathematics. (of a vector or vector function) having curl equal to zero; irrotational; lamellar.
    COLLAPSE
    noun
    8.
    a person who is conservative in principles, actions, habits, etc.
    9.
    a supporter of conservative political policies.
    10.
    (initial capital letter) a member of a conservative political party, especially the Conservative party in Great Britain.
    11.
    a preservative.


    Conservative - as in preserving and respecting the constitution.

    Progressives have ZERO respect for the constitution, morality and religion in which this country was founded.

    Conservatives want to preserve the ideas this country was founded on - progressives beg for Marxism and socialism...

    Fuck your "change."...
     

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