What Arizona proposes about Universal Health Care.

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    By now we have all argued Universal Health Care till we are blue in the face. I don't see many minds changed, but I thought you all would like to see here in Arizona a Ballot proposal that is in place to block Universal Health Care.

    Proposition 101, known by its supporters as Medical Choice for Arizona or the Freedom to Choose Act will be on the November 4, 2008 ballot in Arizona as a citizen-initiated constitutional amendment.
    The supporters say their goal is to "prevent socialized medicine or further heavy regulation of medical care and health insurance" in the state. Titled "Arizona - Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act" and advanced by Medical Choice for Arizona, the measure aims to prevent "many of the abuses associated with socialized medicine and restricting its form to either residual welfare or a voucher system

    Prohibits laws that: restrict person's choice of private health care systems or private plans; interfere with person's or entity's right to pay directly for lawful medical services; impose a penalty or fine for choosing to obtain or decline health care coverage or for participatin in any health care system or plan.

    A "yes" vote shall have the effect of prohibiting laws that restrict a person's choice of private health care systems or private plans, interfere with a person or an entity's right to pay for lawful medical services, and impose a penalty or fine for choosing to obtain or decline health care coverage or for participation in any health care system or plan. Yes.

    A "no" vote shall have the effect of retaining the current law regarding a person or entity's health care choices. No."


    I have a feeling in several states you will see a divide begin to form if Barack Obama prevails on several issues where states will start taking paths like this.


    Arizona Proposition 101 (2008 - Ballotpedia)
     
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    Who's proposing it?
     
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    It's on our state ballot Diuretic , and people here will vote on it. If it passes it becomes state law.
     
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    So, it would get rid of Medicare for seniors, and Tricare for military veterans and military retirees.

    Two of the biggest and most popular government healthcare programs.

    Wow. That's pretty huge.
     
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    state law has no effect on federal programs.
     
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    We definitely need to cut out healthcare for veterans and seniors.

    Healthcare should be only for the rich!
     
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    I was going to say that it would have no effect on existing healthcare programs at all and that includes Tri-Care and Medicare. What it does do is simply say that people in Arizona will have a choice in who their healthcare insurer is. whoever that may be.
     
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    That's not what your article says. It says it would limit "socialized" medicine to low income hardship cases (i.e., medicaid), or convert it to vouchers (i.e, here's some money, now go try to find some healthcare insurance on the free market).

    That means Tricare and Medicare are out according to that language.

    Good luck!
     
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    AN INITIATIVE MEASURE

    PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA; AMENDING ARTICLE II OF THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION BY ADDING SECTION 36 OF ARTICLE II; RELATING TO FREEDOM OF CHOICE IN HEALTH CARE.

    Be it enacted by the People of Arizona:

    1. Article II, Section 36: Constitution of Arizona is proposed to be added as follows if approved by the voters and on proclamation of the Governor:

    ARTICLE II, SECTION 36. BECAUSE ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR HEALTH CARE, NO LAW SHALL BE PASSED THAT RESTRICTS A PERSON’S FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF PRIVATE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS OR PRIVATE PLANS OF ANY TYPE. NO LAW SHALL INTERFERE WITH A PERSON’S OR ENTITY’S RIGHT TO PAY DIRECTLY FOR LAWFUL MEDICAL SERVICES, NOR SHALL ANY LAW IMPOSE A PENALTY OR FINE, OF ANY TYPE, FOR CHOOSING TO OBTAIN OR DECLINE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE OR FOR PARTICIPATION IN ANY PARTICULAR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM OR PLAN.

    2. The Secretary of State shall submit this proposition to the voters at the next general election as provided by Article XXI, of the Constitution of Arizona.



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    Thats the ballot measure Red, as I said there is nothing in there that would stop a person that is getting health benefits from continuing to do so.
     

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