What are Hermann Cains negatives?

[Mr. Shaman]

just wondering

He's a regular-columnist at.....

....WorldNutzDaily.

 

[Avorysuds]

Naw.

You did.

With your offer to "swallow".

No thanks. Okay?

Now go off and have a good cry. Fag.

TYRA SHOW EPISODE GAY MAN CRYING - YouTube

I won't gay bash ya.

I have explained this to you before, I called you Swallow at the start because I thought that was your name, you freaked out so I kept it up because I had no idea you would be a raging homophone and it’s funny.

Next can you get me a direct quote where I offered to swallow anything? Calling YOU Swallow in no way that I know of could imply that I want to swallow anything from you.

Now, calling you Swallow could imply that you swallow whatever the DNC gives you, and you regurgitate it on these boards being we are on a political boards, you on your own have turned it into a sexual meaning.

1 more things, when calling you Swallow I capitalize it because as I said I assumed it to be your Name making it even harder to turn it into a “question” about “asking you” if I can give you oral sex as you always try and make our conversations about… I honestly am not sure how or why you think you are clever for always talking about having me or anyone else go down on you, you have even described your “junk” to me before…

TO all those on the left that pretend to be accepting of gays while attacking righties for seeming homophobic I have always found it off that only ONCE has anyone ever asked Swallow wtf his deal is with being so aggressively homophobic… He does not even deny it, he embraces his distaste for gays.

Nice video Swallow, you keep lots of videos of gays guys saved in your favorites or something, cuz you sure like to post them lol.

The lady protests to much.

No swallow, girlie boy.

No matter how nice you ask, AvorySucksDick.

Oh and I call you AvorySucksDick..not because I think it's your name.

But it's because I think it's what you do for fun.

Oh believe me I get you like to call me AvorySucksDick because you think it's something I like to do for fun... There is no doubt in my mind you have thought about it in depth.

For me not being homophobic I can't say I care what you call me or what you fantasize about me doing.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I have explained this to you before, I called you Swallow at the start because I thought that was your name, you freaked out so I kept it up because I had no idea you would be a raging homophone and it’s funny.

Next can you get me a direct quote where I offered to swallow anything? Calling YOU Swallow in no way that I know of could imply that I want to swallow anything from you.

Now, calling you Swallow could imply that you swallow whatever the DNC gives you, and you regurgitate it on these boards being we are on a political boards, you on your own have turned it into a sexual meaning.

1 more things, when calling you Swallow I capitalize it because as I said I assumed it to be your Name making it even harder to turn it into a “question” about “asking you” if I can give you oral sex as you always try and make our conversations about… I honestly am not sure how or why you think you are clever for always talking about having me or anyone else go down on you, you have even described your “junk” to me before…

TO all those on the left that pretend to be accepting of gays while attacking righties for seeming homophobic I have always found it off that only ONCE has anyone ever asked Swallow wtf his deal is with being so aggressively homophobic… He does not even deny it, he embraces his distaste for gays.

Nice video Swallow, you keep lots of videos of gays guys saved in your favorites or something, cuz you sure like to post them lol.

The lady protests to much.

No swallow, girlie boy.

No matter how nice you ask, AvorySucksDick.

Oh and I call you AvorySucksDick..not because I think it's your name.

But it's because I think it's what you do for fun.

Oh believe me I get you like to call me AvorySucksDick because you think it's something I like to do for fun... There is no doubt in my mind you have thought about it in depth.

For me not being homophobic I can't say I care what you call me or what you fantasize about me doing.

Sallow a pretty fucked up individual... that's why I have him on ignore.

 

[The T]

Anyhoo... let's look at Steve Jobs, who just got uploaded to the iCloud.... billionaire, right? How much wealth do you think this man has created for others?

So... let's punish these people... DAMN THEM!!!!!

What were the tax rates when Jobs started Apple?

I have no clue... How is that relevant?

It isn't indeed. It's an attempt at distraction.

 

[The T]

So what percent of them would vote for Cain, and thus vote to raise their own taxes, while at the same time they're voting to cut taxes on the Rich??

That's easy.... NONE. Why would they? Paying your fair share always applies to somebody else... right?

I was simply pointing out Herman Cain's NEGATIVES in the POLITICS forum.

Having a tax plan that is likely to turn off a major portion of the voters you need to get elected would be a 'negative', correct?

Obama and the Statist Democrats' negatives will be much higher if they pass his 'plan' which is nothing more but huge tax increases/Porkulus part deux, and a prop designed to make Republicans look bad. It's a set up.

 

[peach174]

Cain's 9 9 9 tax plan is a big tax cut for upper income Americans and a tax increase for lower income Americans.

Conservatives might love that concept, but conservatives aren't the only ones who vote.

Try to convince the lower half of the economic ladder in America that they are undertaxed while at the same time you're trying to convince them that the wealthiest Americans are overtaxed.

We all are getting soaked by the current tax plan.
We pay Federal taxes on every single goods, products and services that we buy and use.
Did you know that Obama soaked the poor with his tax hike on cigarettes as soon as he got into office?
Of all the cigarette smokers in the US the majority of them are poor.
He raised the Fed. Tax .62 cents. It went from .39 to 1.01 for pack.
Under Cain's plan that goes back down to .09 cents on each dollar.
example;( I know it varies all across the county)
Let's say that a pack of ciggs is 5.00
Under Obamas Fed Tax it is 6.01
Under Cain's it would be 5.45
A difference of .56 cents.
You still have your state and city tax, but you are paying .56 cents less.That would happen to all of our goods and services.
It wipes out existing Fed tax.
FICA and all that we pay for.

The higher price for a product, the more you would pay in federal tax. And the rich love their expensive goods. So yes they wold be paying more in taxes on goods than the rest of us.
The less you buy the less you pay in Taxes.
And his plan has a deduction for the poor to help offset the sales tax.

If he did get elected, we all know that his plan Will be changed and or tweaked so it won't be the same plan.
But it would bring about something in a change to the terrible plan we have now.

 

[Sallow]

Oh believe me I get you like to call me AvorySucksDick because you think it's something I like to do for fun... There is no doubt in my mind you have thought about it in depth.

For me not being homophobic I can't say I care what you call me or what you fantasize about me doing.

Oh I believe you want to suck dick, young lady.

Tell ya what..if ya stop catching my posts and asking for a swallow..I will stop telling the truth about your leisure time.

Because it is not me that starts shit with you. It's you that starts shit with me.

And there must be a reason for it.

 

[Londoner]

Steve Jobs represents a new American Paradigm. Invent, create and design using American resources. Then build overseas. Then sell back here.

This paradigm explains the disparity of wealth and the loss of the middle class.

It all started when...

Business approached Reagan and said "We will put you in office, but we want cheaper operating costs because American labor and regulations are too expensive. We want higher profits"

As a result, Reagan/Bush/Clinton cut the middle class out of the picture through complex jigger-pokery mostly having to do with trade liberalization. (This is when we heard the giant sucking sound predicted by Perot, as American companies shifted production to oppressed labor markets form Mexico to Taiwan. American profits shot up, but the wages necessary for domestic consumption went down, thus necessitating the construction of debt-economy . . . which, after 30 years of borrowing, finally blew up. Tragically, we're still trying to save middle class consumers by throwing more money (tax cuts) at the already over-capitlized suppliers).

Of course, now that American companies are spread across the globe, they need free military support - meaning: the American taxpayer must subsidize business by paying the Pentagon to safeguard trade routes. Secondly, the military must also maintain the political conditions for cheap labor by installing and/or protecting local elites who 1) discipline labor on behalf of American capital, 2) prevent local populations from securing environmental regulations to, for example, protect their drinking water, and 3) keep resources open to foreign investment so the lion's share can be harvested by outsiders. The greatest threat to capital's desire for cheap labor is when a freedom-demanding middle class sprouts up on a supply chain. (American capital makes more money when their Labor costs are pennies a day). Needless to say, a powerful military is required for global resource and labor extraction. Freedom is on the march! (The fact that this military is publicly subsidized makes the Right's socialism charge seem beyond ironic)

Once the products are made with cheap oppressed labor, they get shipped back to shopping malls staffed by the new low-paid American worker who - because his wages and benefits have been slashed - cannot afford to get sick or buy anything without going into crippling debt. . . therefore, as a result, an alarming number of average American workers are now insolvent . . . which means they can no longer consume. . . which means the capitalist has no incentive to add jobs, which means we are stuck.

People don't get it: the middle class is too big to fail. By cutting them out of the loop, this country has lost a necessary component of the economy (which requires a level of consumption not supported by the new low-wage, no-benefit, austerity paradigm)

But at least there is a surplus of capital on top which - because of the absence of well paid consumers - lacks sufficient investment opportunities in the real economy, thus mandating the perpetual invention of Wall Street asset bubbles . . .

(help)

 

[edthecynic]

just wondering

Aquila

 

[GHook93]

The only one I can see, is his lack of executive experience at the national level.

Running large corporations covers the executive experience. Actually it better prepares him them a governor who never ran a big business!

So based on his Aquila experience we can expect him to wipe out SS.

LOL, the weak leftist always resort to lies and straw men. First, Cain is not even close to saying that SS needs to be done away with. He like SMART people know something needs to be done with social security. He has stated he wants to copy the most successful social security system in the world! Chile is the only country in Latin America that might be considered a 1st world nation (OK Brazil is getting close).

Read up on the system it's AMAZING and what America needs!

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v59n3/v59n3p45.pdf




http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v59n3/v59n3p45.pdf

 

[edthecynic]

Running large corporations covers the executive experience. Actually it better prepares him them a governor who never ran a big business!

So based on his Aquila experience we can expect him to wipe out SS.

LOL, the weak leftist always resort to lies and straw men. First, Cain is not even close to saying that SS needs to be done away with. He like SMART people know something needs to be done with social security. He has stated he wants to copy the most successful social security system in the world! Chile is the only country in Latin America that might be considered a 1st world nation (OK Brazil is getting close).

Read up on the system it's AMAZING and what America needs!

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v59n3/v59n3p45.pdf




http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v59n3/v59n3p45.pdf

Obviously YOU are a "weak Leftist!" Since you have created a Straw Man to debate.

I said based on Cain's Aquila EXPERIENCE he will "DESTROY" SS. That is because while he sat on the board of Aquila, the retirement fund of the workers was pissed away by investing in the energy trading scheme, ala Enron. After the executives gambled away over $200 million in workers retirement funds on speculative energy trading, Cain as chairman of the compensation board rewarded the top 5 execs with $30 million in bonuses, not counting stock options.

The little black man-child is an incompetent stuffed suit.

 

[Rocko]

Yes we all like the man, because he's a true conservative, and not a politician, but he doesn't even know the role of commander in chief.


Herman Cain comments on Afganistan War - YouTube

This video disqualifies him as a serious candidate...I would elect him to congress, but not the senate, and certainly not POTUS...C'mon, he thinks someone should explain what the mission is to him, when he's president.

Couldn't disagree more... THat answer was COMPLETELY appropriate. He's not been briefed by SecDef or SecState or even NSC.. You don't go off making decisions without being briefed. That's stupid and arrogant. What you DO is exactly what he said. You evaluate the GENERAL GOALS of the mission, how that relates to our Security, and THEN when you are completely briefed -- you make the calls.

LOVE that answer.. It's completely the right humble attitude about making INFORMED and IMPORTANT decisions.

Not like B.O. did -- shooting his mouth off about Gitmo and detainees, and war crimes and civil trials before he even knew the inner workings or reasons for Gitmo in the 1st place.

Hold on...You're saying he needs to be briefed on what the mission is???

 

[flacaltenn]

He can't carry enough of the south.

Remember: the GOP broke the New Deal coalition and flipped the "Solid South" by appealing to white backlash over the Civil Rights Movement. I don't think racism is nearly as prevalent as it was 40 years ago, but Herman Cain would not be allowed near the nomination because the GOP depends on a number of sub-literate white coalitions who believe in a hierarchy of race. They believe that the success of white Anglo-Saxon Europeans is based on an innate superiority, and that "lesser races" are immoral, atavistic, and inherently dirty, i.e., closer on the spectrum to animals and not fit for leadership.

FYI: this does not mean that everyone on the Right shares these feelings. The majority of Rightwing voters would have no problem voting for Cain if they thought he was the best option.

Spoken like a true Londoner.. Let me give a perspective from the buckle of the Bible Belt here in the South.. Cain would SWEEP the TENNESSEE GOP over Romney or Perry!!!

All the rest of those voices in your head about "lesser races" is just pure fiction.. Not here in the South meatpie.. Where the heck do you GET THIS STUFF? What are you reading? It's not even Dem Underground stuff. Sounds more like your library stopped buying books in the 60s...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/u...our-not-campaign-trail.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

And in 2012, a front-loading of primaries in Southern states like South Carolina and Florida might benefit a candidate with a Southern focus, like Mr. Cain.

If his book tour is in some ways a proxy for a campaign, his strategy appears clear: the tour’s first stop after New York is in the Orlando, Fla., area, followed by signings in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina and Tennessee. These are some of the same states where Mr. Cain describes his organization as strong.

 

[Meister]

Right now, the conservatives don’t really have a candidate in the race and so right now, Herman Cain is reaping the benefits of that. I'll need to see him challenged more on issues to see where he may be lacking. looking forward to others take on Cain.

MSNBC had their chance to challenge him on the issues.....but they went with trying to smear him instead. Got their asses handed to them, by the way.

 

[Salt Jones]

He's a buck dancing coon.

 

[Meister]

He's a buck dancing coon.

And you?

 

[flacaltenn]

Yes we all like the man, because he's a true conservative, and not a politician, but he doesn't even know the role of commander in chief.


Herman Cain comments on Afganistan War - YouTube

This video disqualifies him as a serious candidate...I would elect him to congress, but not the senate, and certainly not POTUS...C'mon, he thinks someone should explain what the mission is to him, when he's president.

Couldn't disagree more... THat answer was COMPLETELY appropriate. He's not been briefed by SecDef or SecState or even NSC.. You don't go off making decisions without being briefed. That's stupid and arrogant. What you DO is exactly what he said. You evaluate the GENERAL GOALS of the mission, how that relates to our Security, and THEN when you are completely briefed -- you make the calls.

LOVE that answer.. It's completely the right humble attitude about making INFORMED and IMPORTANT decisions.

Not like B.O. did -- shooting his mouth off about Gitmo and detainees, and war crimes and civil trials before he even knew the inner workings or reasons for Gitmo in the 1st place.

Hold on...You're saying he needs to be briefed on what the mission is???

No sir.. At this point, an intelligient administrator doesn't even care what the CURRENT mission is. After 10 years of occupation, and every STATED GOAL being slipped -- apparently the mission isn't realistic or correct. His response indicates that he's gonna appraise the ENTIRE situation once he's briefed into operational details and redefine it.

You're used to having a PROFESSIONAL politician tell you what the polls told him/her to say. What you saw in that clip is the way that Chief Executives operate. GOALS come first. Statements in general about what the best interests for the country (or company) would be. Then you evaluate your resource allocation, the data from current operations, and all other intelligience. THEN -- you define a new or modified MISSION..

A professional politician will just MAKE UP a mission and lie to you about his commitment to pursue it once they get briefed. OR -- Like Santorum and Paul -- there is no doubt of a preconceived bias one way or the other. Which is fine as long as you don't want OPTIMUM solutions. Because once these COMMITTED types see the entire situation on the ground, they've left themselves no flexibility to adjust the solution.

Look --- I'm NOT a Gooper faithful.. But I can listen to Herman Cain without the BullShit detector goin off every 2nd sentence. This is an unbiased, independent, voice of a Gooper outsider...

 

[flacaltenn]

So what percent of them would vote for Cain, and thus vote to raise their own taxes, while at the same time they're voting to cut taxes on the Rich??

Oh, and btw, since it's the talking point flavor of the month,

to target one class for a tax hike while targeting another class for a tax cut...

...that's what's called, by the Right's own measure...Class Warfare.

And singling out 2% of the population for punitive taxation (the millionaire tax) isn't?

Gimme a break.

I didn't say that. I just wanted to get you to agree that Cain's plan is as much what you call class warfare as is Obama's.

lol

Not really NYCarb.. If we were planning a class warfare skirmish on the working poor, we
have to lie about them paying "a fair share" when in reality they were already paying MOST ALL of the burden. Also -- we'd have to blame them for all the economic woes of this country to distract the public from the obvious GOVT contributions to those problems and accuse them of out right theft. THEN -- we punish them for their transgressions.

None of that is happening here.

It's hard to deny that tax reciepts are incredibly top-heavy in the US. Thus it makes the nation vulnerable to downturns in the market. California know this. Their state income tax is so top-heavy that literally 35% of revenues comes from about just 50,000 individuals in the entire state!! A few months of a bad economy and California breaks the bank..

As far as Cain's tax proposal goes, I'm not fond of the fact that he's decoupled Soc Sec and Medicare from ACTUAL premium costs. Because the 9% income tax REPLACES the individual contributions to these funds. We KNOW that premiums will not stay historically flat -- so that removing FICA taxes is a bad idea to the financial stability of these programs. I'd PREFER that he leave the flexibility to ADJUST FICA as separate programs and NOT comingle all the entitlement revenue as tho it's just part of the General FUnd. That's what got us into crisis mode in Soc Sec in the first place..

 

[FactFinder]

just wondering

It will be revealed that he is an establishment bought and paid for "Great Black Hope".

 

[flacaltenn]

just wondering

It will be revealed that he is an establishment bought and paid for "Great Black Hope".

Really? Which part of the establishment propped him up to run? You got names? Maybe the Pillsbury Dough Boy is actually the puppetmaster? This ought to be good.