What are "corporations" if not people?

If corporations are people then they are people who continually shirk their responsibilities, easily over ride the interests of actual people, cause damage to society and the environment far in excess of what a single person could do and are practically impossible to punish for their wrong doings. If a person such as that lived next door you would hate their stinking guts.

BOY are YOU so on target! YES EVERY DAY ALL Corporations are :
1) killing their consumers!
2) Destroying ALL PROPERTY!

YES these CORPORATIONS are like the BORG!!!
"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!

EVERY CORPORATION STEALS from EVERYONE ALL the time!

YES we need to destroy CORPORATIONS and life will be 100% better!!!

Let us all return to the time BEFORE corporations and their MASSIVE DESTRUCTION!
Return to when Life expectancy was less then 40 years!
Return to when letters took 20 days to go 100 miles!
Return to when there was NO Rice Crispies.. NO KFC! YES LET's DESTROY them before these evil corporations ORDER their cars to KILL all their drivers!

Isn't that totally STUPID... much like YOUR comment!!!

When libturds attack corporations what they are really doing is attacking capitalism and the institution of private property. They are saying the government should be free to expropriate your property any time it likes.
 
She's right. Corporations are not people. The Supreme Court ruled incorrectly.

What I absolutely love are the idiot baggers on this and other websites defending that highly activist supreme court and their decision to eliminate democracy once and for all :lol::lol:

these idiot baggers actually think it is a good thing

Corporations are people. That's the ruling. Obamacare is a tax. That's the ruling.

Deal with it.
 
If corporations are people how is it fair those people get to have the rights as people and the rights as corporations too?


that gives the "people" who are the corporations extra rights non corporation people dont get.


dont you get that

If you want those rights, all you have to do is buy a share of stock, or incorporate yourself.
 
what will libturds replace the corporations with? and how will they feed, clothe, the PEOPLE who make up a corporation? Please explain.. or will the corporations and the PEOPLE just vaporize? Dew Tell.
 
Corporations have a legal personage. This means that a corporation can be sued in court and can defend themselves. Corporate activity can be regulated. Corporations pay taxes, and when the money is distributed, the people who receive it must also pay taxes which is corporate double taxation.

If corporations had no legal rights, they would not have any legal obligations either. There would be no corporate legal obligation not to pollute a waterway for instance. No one could sue a corporation. A corporation could not commit a criminal act. Most importantly, they could not be taxed at all. None of the profits made in foreign countries would be subject to a cent of tax.

It doesn't give the people in corporations rights extra rights. They have the same rights as everyone else, one of which is to be able to sue a corporation for wrongdoing without actually having to identify who, in that corporation, did anything wrong.

Corporations as legal entities have standing in the courts. They are not people.

A corporation gets taxed. When people in a corporation get taxed, it is as individual separate from the corporation. The individual tax is not a tax on the corporation.

There is no such thing as a double corporate taxation. The double taxation argument is an imaginary construct meant to confuse and distort.

In the court system: Justice is blind. Evidence can be thrown out as inadmissible. Not guilty does not equal innocent in our system. Legal entities are not people.

You're a liar. The USSC said corporations are people. Next.

Nope.
Corporate personhood is the legal concept that a corporation may sue and be sued in court in the same way as natural persons or unincorporated associations of persons. This doctrine in turn forms the basis for legal recognition that corporations, as groups of people, may hold and exercise certain rights under the common law and the U.S. Constitution. The doctrine does not hold that corporations are "people" in the literal sense, nor does it grant to corporations all of the rights of citizens. wikipedia
 
If they are "people" as you claim they are then I want haliburton put to death for electrocuting our troops in Iraq

You want to kill everyone who owns a share of Halliburton stock?

Shouldn't we also put the entire govenment to death for killing our troops?
 
Corporations have a legal personage. This means that a corporation can be sued in court and can defend themselves. Corporate activity can be regulated. Corporations pay taxes, and when the money is distributed, the people who receive it must also pay taxes which is corporate double taxation.

If corporations had no legal rights, they would not have any legal obligations either. There would be no corporate legal obligation not to pollute a waterway for instance. No one could sue a corporation. A corporation could not commit a criminal act. Most importantly, they could not be taxed at all. None of the profits made in foreign countries would be subject to a cent of tax.

It doesn't give the people in corporations rights extra rights. They have the same rights as everyone else, one of which is to be able to sue a corporation for wrongdoing without actually having to identify who, in that corporation, did anything wrong.

Corporations as legal entities have standing in the courts. They are not people.

A corporation gets taxed. When people in a corporation get taxed, it is as individual separate from the corporation. The individual tax is not a tax on the corporation.

There is no such thing as a double corporate taxation. The double taxation argument is an imaginary construct meant to confuse and distort.

In the court system: Justice is blind. Evidence can be thrown out as inadmissible. Not guilty does not equal innocent in our system. Legal entities are not people.

You're a liar. The USSC said corporations are people. Next.

The Supreme Court also said that states don't have the standing to decide if a person is a citizen, since other states considered them property. You're an idiot. Next.
 
If corporations are people how is it fair those people get to have the rights as people and the rights as corporations too?


that gives the "people" who are the corporations extra rights non corporation people dont get.


dont you get that

If you want those rights, all you have to do is buy a share of stock, or incorporate yourself.

And why should we have to do that? Are rights for sale now? Granted, that does seem to be the way some people conceive of government - as a granter of privilege rather than a protector of equal rights - but I think that goes against the spirit of our nation.

For example, what is the justification for absolving someone of responsibility for the actions of a company they own, merely because they've filed certain paperwork? In other words, what are the grounds for limited liability protections? It seems to me, they are a convenience - one sought after by ambitions leaders who wanted to grow our country faster than freedom and fair government would allow.
 
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A corporation can serve time in prison for a crime?

People who are members of the corporations can serve time in prison for committing crimes. Just ask Bernie Madoff or Michael Milken.
very very very very very very very rare

most of them are insulated from civil liability as well

corps are corps

people are people

it took the most activist and corrupt lying bunch of cocksuckers to change that
 
They're not just people, they're "Super People" with rights far beyond those of regular people.
 
Can you give us an example of a corporation killing people?

A Perth crane company has been found guilty of causing the death of a worker by failing to provide and maintain a safe workplace.

please get a life?

Corporations have a legal personage. This means that a corporation can be sued in court and can defend themselves. Corporate activity can be regulated. Corporations pay taxes, and when the money is distributed, the people who receive it must also pay taxes which is corporate double taxation.

If corporations had no legal rights, they would not have any legal obligations either. There would be no corporate legal obligation not to pollute a waterway for instance. No one could sue a corporation. A corporation could not commit a criminal act. Most importantly, they could not be taxed at all. None of the profits made in foreign countries would be subject to a cent of tax.

It doesn't give the people in corporations rights extra rights. They have the same rights as everyone else, one of which is to be able to sue a corporation for wrongdoing without actually having to identify who, in that corporation, did anything wrong.

Corporations as legal entities have standing in the courts. They are not people.

A corporation gets taxed. When people in a corporation get taxed, it is as individual separate from the corporation. The individual tax is not a tax on the corporation.

There is no such thing as a double corporate taxation. The double taxation argument is an imaginary construct meant to confuse and distort.

In the court system: Justice is blind. Evidence can be thrown out as inadmissible. Not guilty does not equal innocent in our system. Legal entities are not people.

It is? So taxing the profits before I get a return on my investment isnt a tax I pay?

Laughable.

It is not a tax the individual pays, correct. Just as tax dollars aren't an individuals. A corporation's profits do not belong to you -- they belong to a legal entity. The legal entity is taxed. It is the same principle that rules a corporation can make political contributions.

how stupid can you be?

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there are huge differences between corporations and other groups of citizens

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Corporations have a legal personage. This means that a corporation can be sued in court and can defend themselves. Corporate activity can be regulated. Corporations pay taxes, and when the money is distributed, the people who receive it must also pay taxes which is corporate double taxation.

If corporations had no legal rights, they would not have any legal obligations either. There would be no corporate legal obligation not to pollute a waterway for instance. No one could sue a corporation. A corporation could not commit a criminal act. Most importantly, they could not be taxed at all. None of the profits made in foreign countries would be subject to a cent of tax.

It doesn't give the people in corporations rights extra rights. They have the same rights as everyone else, one of which is to be able to sue a corporation for wrongdoing without actually having to identify who, in that corporation, did anything wrong.

Corporations as legal entities have standing in the courts. They are not people.

A corporation gets taxed. When people in a corporation get taxed, it is as individual separate from the corporation. The individual tax is not a tax on the corporation.

There is no such thing as a double corporate taxation. The double taxation argument is an imaginary construct meant to confuse and distort.

In the court system: Justice is blind. Evidence can be thrown out as inadmissible. Not guilty does not equal innocent in our system. Legal entities are not people.

You're a liar. The USSC said corporations are people. Next.
 
are unions people? How about schools, churches, your favorite sports team? What about the naacp, or the usmb? C'mon guys, all these things, including companies and corporations, are organizations of people. The argument that organizations are not people is a shallow one; it is nothing more than a political device used by the left to demagogue organizations they don't like without offending other organizations they do like, or those who support them.

bingo!
 
I know that a corporation is not a person.

its a legal filing between real people who as people already have full rights

If you take away the rights of the corporation, you take away the rights of the members. If you can limit the First Amendment rights of a corporation, then you can limit the First Amendment rights of the Sierra Club and MoveOn.org.

Is that really what you want?
 
It just seems like equivocation from all sides on the 'corporations as people' issue. Saying 'corporations are people' is about like saying 'teams are people'. It's true to an extent, but corporations are a specific type of organization that gets special rights granted to it be its corporate charter. That's what we need to be discussing. Are those rights justified and valid? Should they be changed?

I certainly don't see how people should have LESS rights because they are part of a corporation.

Evidently YOU"VE never formed a "corporation".
A "corporation" just doesn't spring into existence.. i.e. people decide to the term is:
"incorporate".. that is a group or individual wants to for example which MOST people do is to protect those personal assets from risk of loss.

Most corporations are formed to protect individuals rights!

correct it is a protection umbrella for persons, but not a person itself.

It's an association of people, just like the United Auto Workers or the Sierra Club.
 
The main problem with corporations as people is that they apparently have free speech too but they are the ones who get to use a megaphone. They get to be the squeakiest wheel in all cases, even the ones that do not directly effect them.

Yeah, let's limit the First Amendment rights of the following corporations:

ABC
NBC
CBS
CNN
MSNBC
Media Matters
MoveOn.org
HuffingtonPost
 

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