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The Democrat Statists that foisted this crap on the res of us. It's in the Healthcare Law they voted for. You have nameless faceless bureaucrats making decisions to pay for treatment or not.
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So you still believe it, eh? Pathetic. The irony is that under a private plan, administrators of those plans make life/death decisions every day, but that has never seemed to bother anyone.
It's really frustrating that after all this time, some of you people continue to believe that the health care reform will operate as a universal program administered by the government, when in fact, insurance companies will still be making the decisions on coverage, not the government.
Actually, the discussion of "death panls" was iun regard to the "government plan" if one was to be included in the reform.
You see, with private carriers, you opt to choose the policy...in plan, out of plan, full coverage, deductable...all choices...and yes, sometimes the plan you choose will allow the insuracne company to deny you what you need...but that was based on the plan you opted for.
But if the government ran a plan, the only way it could be coist effective is if they, the government, made the same decisions....but you would not have a choice of plan...it would have been a one size fits all plan...
Yes, death panels was a strong term to use....but as you suggest...they already exist in the private carriers.
Imagine the government making those decisions and you having no choice but to accept the only plan available.
Yes, the 10th amendment covers the rest. Government has no authority to do it. The left in particular just makes me laugh when they say the right is ignoring the Constitution. That would be unlike them, who ignore the first (so called campaign finance reform, "fairness doctorine"), second (guns), fifth (protection of private property) and ninth and tenth (constitutional authority). They reverse the commerce clause to allow government to restrict trade and go into intra state commerce rather then it's intent which is to prevent States from having protectionist interstate trade. They make up constitutional rights like the right to an abortion. I'm pro-choice, but the constitution doesn't address it, sorry. Then they say the right ignores the Constitution. Surreee, that's the problem. They do actually, it's just the left saying it I'm amused by.It's thick enough.Only an idiot would let gov. use the airwaves for propaganda like this.
I can't find the section in the Constitution about gov. having the authority to advertise about how wonderful it is forcing people into a contractual commitments with health insurers.
How thick did you want the Constitution to be?
The Fed. gov. was given very little power, except what was stolen by progressives.
Maybe we can keep our Republic, maybe not.
And it's going to rain gum drops and lollipops. I'm a small business owner (I own two businesses) and dealing with this new Obamacare is a nightmare. I thought it was bad before. I'm pretty close to just calling it a day and canceling insurance completely. Of course that's what Obama actually wants. He couldn't get socialized medicine passed. So plan B is you destroy private insurance and then everyone runs to government for a solution. And it just may work, TBD.Insurance companies will be competing with each other for the pools of people to be covered, just as it happens now when an employer decides to choose an insurer offering the best basic coverage for the company. OF COURSE everyone won't get every kind of coverage they want! They don't now! Only if they opt for a private "Cadillac" plan can they do that. The only one-size-fits-all insurance plan run by the government is Medicare.
Only an idiot would let gov. use the airwaves for propaganda like this.
So it is OK if corporations control the airways with pure nonsense, but government is held to some absurd standard? One has to laugh at the source of this OP, and their 'about statement' (below). They call them conservative and then say they are non-partisan. Only a fool could write that oxymoron. Weird how conservatives are for a dog eat dog world, and then mention Medicare change - don't they hate that too. Hypocrite thy name is corporate conservative tool.
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no, that was asshole alan graysons ideaIf we had listened to the Republicans, we could have had their health care plan. "Die Quickly". Then we wouldn't need to worry about health care and medicare and social security and all that other nonsense.
We need to concentrate on tax breaks for people making over a million dollars a year.
Listen to Republicans. Those people have their priorities straight. They KNOW what is good for the country.
no, that was asshole alan graysons ideaIf we had listened to the Republicans, we could have had their health care plan. "Die Quickly". Then we wouldn't need to worry about health care and medicare and social security and all that other nonsense.
We need to concentrate on tax breaks for people making over a million dollars a year.
Listen to Republicans. Those people have their priorities straight. They KNOW what is good for the country.
glad to see you agree with that pathetic LOSER
no, that was still that asshole graysonno, that was asshole alan graysons ideaIf we had listened to the Republicans, we could have had their health care plan. "Die Quickly". Then we wouldn't need to worry about health care and medicare and social security and all that other nonsense.
We need to concentrate on tax breaks for people making over a million dollars a year.
Listen to Republicans. Those people have their priorities straight. They KNOW what is good for the country.
glad to see you agree with that pathetic LOSER
To be more precise, the Republican plan was and still is:
1- Don't get sick
2- If you do get sick, die quickly
Although to be honest, step #2 only matters if you want to avoid suffering or prefer to leave something for the people you will leave behind. And there is the Terri Schiavo exception of course (keeping people alive against the wishes of the people that should decide)
no, that was still that asshole graysonno, that was asshole alan graysons idea
glad to see you agree with that pathetic LOSER
To be more precise, the Republican plan was and still is:
1- Don't get sick
2- If you do get sick, die quickly
Although to be honest, step #2 only matters if you want to avoid suffering or prefer to leave something for the people you will leave behind. And there is the Terri Schiavo exception of course (keeping people alive against the wishes of the people that should decide)
but i see you are another one to buy into his lie
loser
in other words, something to totally make up on your ownno, that was still that asshole graysonTo be more precise, the Republican plan was and still is:
1- Don't get sick
2- If you do get sick, die quickly
Although to be honest, step #2 only matters if you want to avoid suffering or prefer to leave something for the people you will leave behind. And there is the Terri Schiavo exception of course (keeping people alive against the wishes of the people that should decide)
but i see you are another one to buy into his lie
loser
It's not a lie, it's the summarized truth.
Will Republicans force a mandate? Will they ban pre-existing conditions? Remove lifetime caps? Prevent insurance companies from dropping people? Etc.
The answers are always no.
The end result is always the same:
1- an insurance you fear to use (if you can even afford it) and
2- an insurance that will abandon you when you become too much of a burden.
Hence
1- Do not get sick and
2- If you do, die quickly
in other words, something to totally make up on your own
asshole
no, he wasntin other words, something to totally make up on your own
asshole
At least Allan Grayson was more polite.
Is this a waste of taxpayer's $$:
Retiring military officers with no combat injuries drawing an extra % of pay for life for a disability. They sprained an ankle or had a sore shoulder and received a rating at retirement or before retirement to boost their retirement pay.
And then work a full time job with no problem after retirement with their disability increase in pay.
This is wide spread now. My neighbor did it, brags about it and works a full time job with the US Forestry Department now.
I like the guy but there is nothing wrong with him at all and he receives an extra 10K or more a year for this.
Is this a waste of taxpayer's $$:
Retiring military officers with no combat injuries drawing an extra % of pay for life for a disability. They sprained an ankle or had a sore shoulder and received a rating at retirement or before retirement to boost their retirement pay.
And then work a full time job with no problem after retirement with their disability increase in pay.
This is wide spread now. My neighbor did it, brags about it and works a full time job with the US Forestry Department now.
I like the guy but there is nothing wrong with him at all and he receives an extra 10K or more a year for this.
Mr. shitnao,Only an idiot would let gov. use the airwaves for propaganda like this.
Ahh, Mr. Clown, does that mean cons are now idiots? Because Bush signed the Executive Order for this BS.
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I heard about this new company that's going to go big next year selling a brand new food that everyone will love.
It's called
Soylent Green.
Yes, the 10th amendment covers the rest. Government has no authority to do it. The left in particular just makes me laugh when they say the right is ignoring the Constitution. That would be unlike them, who ignore the first (so called campaign finance reform, "fairness doctorine"), second (guns), fifth (protection of private property) and ninth and tenth (constitutional authority). They reverse the commerce clause to allow government to restrict trade and go into intra state commerce rather then it's intent which is to prevent States from having protectionist interstate trade. They make up constitutional rights like the right to an abortion. I'm pro-choice, but the constitution doesn't address it, sorry. Then they say the right ignores the Constitution. Surreee, that's the problem. They do actually, it's just the left saying it I'm amused by.It's thick enough.How thick did you want the Constitution to be?
The Fed. gov. was given very little power, except what was stolen by progressives.
Maybe we can keep our Republic, maybe not.
And it's going to rain gum drops and lollipops. I'm a small business owner (I own two businesses) and dealing with this new Obamacare is a nightmare. I thought it was bad before. I'm pretty close to just calling it a day and canceling insurance completely. Of course that's what Obama actually wants. He couldn't get socialized medicine passed. So plan B is you destroy private insurance and then everyone runs to government for a solution. And it just may work, TBD.Insurance companies will be competing with each other for the pools of people to be covered, just as it happens now when an employer decides to choose an insurer offering the best basic coverage for the company. OF COURSE everyone won't get every kind of coverage they want! They don't now! Only if they opt for a private "Cadillac" plan can they do that. The only one-size-fits-all insurance plan run by the government is Medicare.
