What a Trump win would mean to the Republican Party

[Pogo]

In other words, free press will be gone. Trunp will have a State run and approved news outlet. Media outlets that disagree with him will be shut down.

Smells like Nazi Germany or the USSR.

So, it smells like Socialism.

Bzzt --- nope, sorry. Let's show our studio audience and all the folks at home the correct answer:

It smells like Totalitarianism. It smells like Fascism. It smells like the Narcissistic Personality Disorder of a megalomaniac who's been handed everything for free so long he's never developed a skin and continually melts down like a whiny little bitch, and now wants to contrive legislation to help him do that. None of which has squat to do with "socialism" or any other economic structure. Controlling discourse has zero to do with how the economy works. It has to do with the concept of Freedom of Speech -- which as the name implies is free.

Thanks for playing, and be sure to play the "Guess the Poison" board game at home.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Bzzt --- nope, sorry. Let's show our studio audience and all the folks at home the correct answer:

It smells like Totalitarianism. It smells like Fascism. It smells like the Narcissistic Personality Disorder of a megalomaniac who's been handed everything for free so long he's never developed a skin and continually melts down like a whiny little bitch, and now wants to contrive legislation to help him do that. None of which has squat to do with "socialism" or any other economic structure. Controlling discourse has zero to do with how the economy works. It has to do with the concept of Freedom of Speech -- which as the name implies is free.

Thanks for playing, and be sure to play the "Guess the Poison" board game at home.

Lack of freedom comes with Socialism, really, since everyone becomes government property. Both Russia and Germany were/are Socialist. You keep people from talking badly about Socialism because nobody wants it. You keep people from leaving because nobody wants it.

 

[Pogo]

Bzzt --- nope, sorry. Let's show our studio audience and all the folks at home the correct answer:

It smells like Totalitarianism. It smells like Fascism. It smells like the Narcissistic Personality Disorder of a megalomaniac who's been handed everything for free so long he's never developed a skin and continually melts down like a whiny little bitch, and now wants to contrive legislation to help him do that. None of which has squat to do with "socialism" or any other economic structure. Controlling discourse has zero to do with how the economy works. It has to do with the concept of Freedom of Speech -- which as the name implies is free.

Thanks for playing, and be sure to play the "Guess the Poison" board game at home.

Lack of freedom comes with Socialism, really, since everyone becomes government property. Both Russia and Germany were/are Socialist. You keep people from talking badly about Socialism because nobody wants it. You keep people from leaving because nobody wants it.

I don't see a cause-and-effect there. Take Sweden, Denmark for instance -- socialism without this lack of freedom, if anything more freedom. The nature of a Totalitarian government is that it's going to control everything, from speech to the economy to religion to literally everything That ain't what "socialism" means. So what you have there is a simple Association Fallacy --- correlation extrapolated to false causation.

But certainly lack of freedom comes with Rumpism. That's exactly why I posted the video. His own words. And there we can ALL see a causal relationship.

In Rump's case it's a bit different. He's not necessarily out to control discourse simply out of being a control freak. Mainly he's out to control criticism because he's a fragile-ego thin-skinned fatally-entitled whiny little bitch who wants to get into the kitchen and then complains about the heat.

 

[FA_Q2]

If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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I fond your video choice interesting. There are a ton of examples of Trump willingly violating and/or disregarding rights in general. Expanding libel laws is not one of them (though I strongly disagree with his statements but I do not do so as an issue of rights)

 

[JimH52]

If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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I fond your video choice interesting. There are a ton of examples of Trump willingly violating and/or disregarding rights in general. Expanding libel laws is not one of them (though I strongly disagree with his statements but I do not do so as an issue of rights)

Maybe Trump supporters want to be controlled. Perhaps they want a fascist in the WH? Maybe they want their civil liberties taken? I don't know?

He will be more than happy to oblige them.

 

[Pogo]

If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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I fond your video choice interesting. There are a ton of examples of Trump willingly violating and/or disregarding rights in general. Expanding libel laws is not one of them (though I strongly disagree with his statements but I do not do so as an issue of rights)

I've posted that same video over and over because it boggles my mind that it doesn't get the news window that far less implicative blatherations have. We make icons out of "the judge is Mexican" and contortions mocking a muscular condition and "blood coming out of here wherever" and "rapists" but this is much more the elephant in the room.

The "libel" angle in my read is insignificant. That's just Rump citing his favorite bully tactic -- the lawsuit. It's the end game that concerns me.

And it's actually not Donald Rump himself that concerns me, since he really can't effect such "opening up" anyway --- it's the fact that when he says that he gets approval from the sitting sycophants cheering against their own self-interest. I know it's Texas, but even so.

That's the real danger -- the demonstration of what mob mentality can be so easily baited into without a second thought, even when it cuts their own collective throat. As in the case of rally violence --- Rump never personally took a swing at anyone, but his willing minions take the hint and do it on his behalf. THAT is the scary part --- the obliviousness to the fact that the man behind the curtain IS the man behind the curtain. And when we point out the puppet strings over their heads they just go "la la la" and drone on with the Mantra of the Day.

(Usually at this point, I notice they change the subject to "Obama"... "Hillary Clinton"... "Bill Clinton"... "Bill Cosby"... anything they can think of to get out of the Discomfort Zone so it doesn't have to be faced.)

 

[pismoe]

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If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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I fond your video choice interesting. There are a ton of examples of Trump willingly violating and/or disregarding rights in general. Expanding libel laws is not one of them (though I strongly disagree with his statements but I do not do so as an issue of rights)

Maybe Trump supporters want to be controlled. Perhaps they want a fascist in the WH? Maybe they want their civil liberties taken? I don't know?

He will be more than happy to oblige them.

----------------------------------- only RIGHTS i care about are outlined in the Bill of Rights JimH .

 

[pismoe]

And then , i'm only interested in the originals outlined in the Bill of RIGHTS Jimh !!

 

[pismoe]

civil liberties , like what ?? Ability to have an abortion , ability to marry for perverted types . What civil liberties and invented 'rights' are you talking about JimH ??

 

[JimH52]

civil liberties , like what ?? Ability to have an abortion , ability to marry for perverted types . What civil liberties and invented 'rights' are you talking about JimH ??

You deserve Donnie. Maybe he can make you his fourth wife. Are you an immigrant?

 

[Pumpkin Row]

I don't see a cause-and-effect there. Take Sweden, Denmark for instance -- socialism without this lack of freedom, if anything more freedom. The nature of a Totalitarian government is that it's going to control everything, from speech to the economy to religion to literally everything That ain't what "socialism" means. So what you have there is a simple Association Fallacy --- correlation extrapolated to false causation.

But certainly lack of freedom comes with Rumpism. That's exactly why I posted the video. His own words. And there we can ALL see a causal relationship.

Oh, you're one of those people that thinks Sweden is 'succeeding', and that Socialism is what the Liberals pass it off as. Socialism is just a stepping stone for government expansion and control.

In Rump's case it's a bit different. He's not necessarily out to control discourse simply out of being a control freak. Mainly he's out to control criticism because he's a fragile-ego thin-skinned fatally-entitled whiny little bitch who wants to get into the kitchen and then complains about the heat.

I agree.

 

[pismoe]

civil liberties , like what ?? Ability to have an abortion , ability to marry for perverted types . What civil liberties and invented 'rights' are you talking about JimH ??

You deserve Donnie. Maybe he can make you his fourth wife. Are you an immigrant?

------------------------ course the thing is that if i get the Donnie , well you and yer ilk get him also . Which 'invented' civil right are you most concened about losing JimH ??

 

[JimH52]

civil liberties , like what ?? Ability to have an abortion , ability to marry for perverted types . What civil liberties and invented 'rights' are you talking about JimH ??

You deserve Donnie. Maybe he can make you his fourth wife. Are you an immigrant?

------------------------ course the thing is that if i get the Donnie , well you and yer ilk get him also . Which 'invented' civil right are you most concened about losing JimH ??

civil liberties , like what ?? Ability to have an abortion , ability to marry for perverted types . What civil liberties and invented 'rights' are you talking about JimH ??

You deserve Donnie. Maybe he can make you his fourth wife. Are you an immigrant?

------------------------ course the thing is that if i get the Donnie , well you and yer ilk get him also . Which 'invented' civil right are you most concened about losing JimH ??

Trump, the Anti-Constitutional Authoritarian — Liberty Lovers, Beware, by Charles C. W. Cooke, National Review


Or, perhaps, before he is gone? Indeed, if the current Republican front-runner is any indication of things to come, large swathes of the party have already abandoned their talk of “constitutional conservatism” and “limited government” and embraced a flat-out authoritarianism, at least as preached by “The Donald.” Whatever else he might be, the idea of Trump as a paladin of civil liberties should make one howl with terrible laughter.

Since he announced his candidacy, Trump has threatened to ignore those who are carping about free speech and shut down parts of the Internet; he has promised to summarily deport those who are suspected of being illegal immigrants, without due process of law; he has endorsed extensive campaign-finance regulations that fly directly in the face of the First Amendment; he has vowed to restrict the Second Amendment rights of those on the terror watch list, again without due process; he has praised Franklin Roosevelt’s internment of American citizens, suggested that natural-born Americans can be deported against their will, and proposed that American Muslims be barred from reentering the country; he has described as “wonderful” a Supreme Court ruling that obliterated the “public use” limitations on the invocation of eminent domain; and he has refused to rule out registering Americans on the basis of their faith. Worse still, he has responded to the criticism that these positions have generated by channeling his inner Nancy Pelosi: “Are you serious?”
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You like the other poor clueless Trumpettes have fallen for a charlatan that has blatantly and unabashedly stated that he will turn his back on the constitution and begin a march to national authoritarianism. His followers, like you, have become a mindless cult of drooling disciples. He has even boasted that he could commit murder on the street of New York and you would still lap up his every word. Trump is NOT the greatest danger to the United States. YOU ARE!

 

[Pogo]

I don't see a cause-and-effect there. Take Sweden, Denmark for instance -- socialism without this lack of freedom, if anything more freedom. The nature of a Totalitarian government is that it's going to control everything, from speech to the economy to religion to literally everything That ain't what "socialism" means. So what you have there is a simple Association Fallacy --- correlation extrapolated to false causation.

But certainly lack of freedom comes with Rumpism. That's exactly why I posted the video. His own words. And there we can ALL see a causal relationship.

Oh, you're one of those people that thinks Sweden is 'succeeding', and that Socialism is what the Liberals pass it off as. Socialism is just a stepping stone for government expansion and control.

I made no value judgment as to "Sweden is succeeding". I simply cited it as one example of socialism where no such correlation -- because it's just that, not causation --- of any limitation on civil liberties exists, so it's one example that disproves your non sequitur. Socialism is an economic structure; it simply has no relationship to whether free speech exists or not. It just doesn't.

Prove me wrong. Show me a causal relationship.

In Rump's case it's a bit different. He's not necessarily out to control discourse simply out of being a control freak. Mainly he's out to control criticism because he's a fragile-ego thin-skinned fatally-entitled whiny little bitch who wants to get into the kitchen and then complains about the heat.

I agree.

 

[Katzndogz]

I love the smell of democrat fear.

 

[protectionist]

And it's actually not Donald Rump himself that concerns me, since he really can't effect such "opening up" anyway --- it's the fact that when he says that he gets approval from the sitting sycophants cheering against their own self-interest.
(Usually at this point, I notice they change the subject to "Obama"... "Hillary Clinton"... "Bill Clinton"... "Bill Cosby"... anything they can think of to get out of the Discomfort Zone so it doesn't have to be faced.)

"cheering against their own self-interest." is what Hillary supporters are doing. They cheer for >>

More immigration that has already taken millions of jobs away from them.

More immigration that robs their economy of $123 Billion year in remittances.

More immigration that robs their tax treasuries.

More immigration that allows Muslims into the US, with the ISIS Trojan Horse, setting up to detonate nuclear bombs in US cities.

Gun control laws that would allow gun-free zones, leaving everybody defenseless against terrorists and other attackers.

 

[Esmeralda]

If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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In other words, free press will be gone. Trunp will have a State run and approved news outlet. Media outlets that disagree with him will be shut down.

Smells like Nazi Germany or the USSR.

His press conferences will only include those he deems not 'sleazy.' He has called the press "dishonest," "not good people," "sleazy," and "among the worst human beings he has ever met."

 

[Esmeralda]

If Trump won, the GOP would celebrate, for a few days. Then reality would set in. Trump will change the values that the GOP has stood for, for decade. The Repiblican Congress will block most of his insane ideas. So, short term, perhaps a political win,

Long term, the GOP will never be the same. He will trample on individual rights. It will takes many years to return many Democratic principles. The Repulican Party will be despised due due to his crazy years in office. The GOP will never be the same.

-------------------------- oh , it'll be fun and the TROOMP will have his executive powers , pen and phone the same as mrobama had !! Plus the Trump sounds excellent on guns [individual Right that they are] , building an exclusion wall , looking at or curtailing muslims , rebuilding USA military and other actions . If the TRUMP gets in its going to be interesting times asyou lefties whine , cry and riot JimH .

Gotcher Individual Rights right here Pismoe. Wave bye-bye now.

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In other words, free press will be gone. Trunp will have a State run and approved news outlet. Media outlets that disagree with him will be shut down.

Smells like Nazi Germany or yhe USSR.

Or Norf Korea --- who just endorsed him.
What a coincidence. I'm sure it's only because they have an affinity with weird hair.

The only two world leaders who like him are Putin and Kim Jong-un. Not surprising.

 

[protectionist]

In other words, free press will be gone. Trunp will have a State run and approved news outlet. Media outlets that disagree with him will be shut down.

Smells like Nazi Germany or the USSR.

CORRECTION: That is in YOUR other words. YOU, just like the sleazy press, are posting more sleaze right here. You, like most of the liberal Trump-bashers are taking Trump's good (and very meaningful words) and transforming them into something bad.


It's very hard ti think that you're not lying. It's hard to think that anyone could be as stupid as to think what you are posting here. Trump did not say a "free press will be gone". YOU said that. He didn't say any news outlet would be "shut down" Again, YOUR ludicrously inflated words. And it is entirely YOUR absurd exagerration of mentioning "Nazi Germany or the USSR".

Strike 1..........Strike 2.............Strike 3.

What Trump REALLY said was that we would open up the libel laws that are now closed down, due biased liberal leadership that won't allow those libel laws to be enforced. He is only talking about sueing those who commit libel, and being held accountable for it (false, damaging words) as they should be.

Typical liberal trash talk, which unfortunatley, there are many people out there dumb enough to fall for this poppycock.

 

[protectionist]

The only two world leaders who like him are Putin and Kim Jong-un. Not surprising.

HA HA. And you got this "information" from where ? A drunk dream ?

And just look at the world leaders who endorse Hillary Clinton. Look at what countries they are. 1. Sweden which is a massive crime mess, due to their acceptance of Muslim immigration and Koranic lawlessness.

2. China, who has been attacking our economy in grabbing US businesses, and sending cheap labor remittance-$ending immigrants here.

3. Vicente Fox, ex-president of Mexico, who a few years ago gloated about how the remittances$$ from the 8 million illegal aliens he sent here, (money pillaged from our economy) were Mexico's # 1 source of income. I couldn't think of a more damaging blow to a presidential campaign, than getting an endorsement from Vicente Fox.

4. Then there's leaders from France, whose national gun-free zone caused 130 people to be shot dead by terrorists recently (and Hillary also supports this insane policy).

5. Then there's Italy. Italy! Why on earth would they be on the list of Hillary supporters ? Italy does not even recognize Islam as a religion, and thereby does not grant it religious tax status (as real religions are granted) Even Trump hasn't gone that far to oppose Islam, while Hillary panders to them every chance she gets.

6. And UK. LOL. Even the cops don't carry guns in that nutjob country, where Muslims are resetting the laws to their own preference.

Maybe this guy endorses Hillary too. We know he likes her gun control policies >>