What a Coincidence! WI Sen's Mistress gets State Job

[Screaming Eagle]

I think whether it is a Democrat or a Republican doing crap like this they should swing. If it can be proved that he somehow acted to get her the job that is.

 

[Meister]

i'm not sure which is worse, Knee pad patty or grunt

Your too young to understand.

I was always proud of the work I did as a grunt.
"Knee-Pad Plasma" has a nice ring to it....don't you think?

i um understand what knee pad patty entails grandpa.
No sense of humor.

I had no doubt that you knew what knee pad plasma meant, sonny. No doubt at all.
On the other hand, the word "grunt".....

 

[Wry Catcher]

I worked for the government for 30 years....it's who you know.....trust me.
We had a manager that everyone referred to as "Knee-Pad Patty".
WE also had people who went into high positions because it WAS who they knew.
Me? I was a grunt.

There is some truth to what you wrote Meister, but civil service tests - both written and oral - make such practices somewhat transparent. As a manager I served on many interview boards and was overruled twice by the Chief. In both cases I was approached by the candidate who was not promoted (of course this usually happended, people want to know how to interview better/what they did wrong, etc.) and explained candidly what happened and how to fix it. Both were latter promoted. What I told them was the chief wanted yes men - he himself was an empty suit - and to make sure to kiss ass. In some cases the end justifies the means. 'Leaders' like that chief are easy to manipulate once you know what motivates them.

I've seen people get busted for sexual harrassment and instead of going through the hassle of demoting or firing...they were elevated to a higher position and transferred to another district, Wry.

I've seen similar. They knew how to play the game; those who don't oftern get punished. Office politics are office politics in public service or in the private sector, the same rules apply. For a time I was head of IA, one reason I always recommended firing was for lying. It's true for deputies and true for Presidents, lying is the ultimate crime.
When your hand is in the cookie jar and there's photographic evidence don't lie. Some people actually do.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I think whether it is a Democrat or a Republican doing crap like this they should swing. If it can be proved that he somehow acted to get her the job that is.

Such exists and always has, in both the private sector and public. Unionized or not. Son's follow father for the road can and is greased for those and not others.

 

[Care4all]

I worked for the government for 30 years....it's who you know.....trust me.
We had a manager that everyone referred to as "Knee-Pad Patty".
WE also had people who went into high positions because it WAS who they knew.
Me? I was a grunt.

There is some truth to what you wrote Meister, but civil service tests - both written and oral - make such practices somewhat transparent. As a manager I served on many interview boards and was overruled twice by the Chief. In both cases I was approached by the candidate who was not promoted (of course this usually happended, people want to know how to interview better/what they did wrong, etc.) and explained candidly what happened and how to fix it. Both were latter promoted. What I told them was the chief wanted yes men - he himself was an empty suit - and to make sure to kiss ass. In some cases the end justifies the means. 'Leaders' like that chief are easy to manipulate once you know what motivates them.

I've seen people get busted for sexual harrassment and instead of going through the hassle of demoting or firing...they were elevated to a higher position and transferred to another district, Wry.

I saw the same, only in the Private sector....my boss was transferred to a california division for getting his secretary pregnant, while he was supposedly happily married....and the only thing that changed was that the rest of us managers, not involved in his sexual harassment case, were forced to view a video on sexual harassment by managers.... he probably never had to go through the video...just a pay raise, bigger bonus, and a transfer for him.

 

[Jarhead]

There is some truth to what you wrote Meister, but civil service tests - both written and oral - make such practices somewhat transparent. As a manager I served on many interview boards and was overruled twice by the Chief. In both cases I was approached by the candidate who was not promoted (of course this usually happended, people want to know how to interview better/what they did wrong, etc.) and explained candidly what happened and how to fix it. Both were latter promoted. What I told them was the chief wanted yes men - he himself was an empty suit - and to make sure to kiss ass. In some cases the end justifies the means. 'Leaders' like that chief are easy to manipulate once you know what motivates them.

I've seen people get busted for sexual harrassment and instead of going through the hassle of demoting or firing...they were elevated to a higher position and transferred to another district, Wry.

I saw the same, only in the Private sector....my boss was transferred to a california division for getting his secretary pregnant, while he was supposedly happily married....and the only thing that changed was that the rest of us managers, not involved in his sexual harassment case, were forced to view a video on sexual harassment by managers.... he probably never had to go through the video...just a pay raise, bigger bonus, and a transfer for him.

yeah...but you got to watch porn during office hours.
How bad is that?

 

[Article 15]

I've seen people get busted for sexual harrassment and instead of going through the hassle of demoting or firing...they were elevated to a higher position and transferred to another district, Wry.

I saw the same, only in the Private sector....my boss was transferred to a california division for getting his secretary pregnant, while he was supposedly happily married....and the only thing that changed was that the rest of us managers, not involved in his sexual harassment case, were forced to view a video on sexual harassment by managers.... he probably never had to go through the video...just a pay raise, bigger bonus, and a transfer for him.

yeah...but you got to watch porn during office hours.
How bad is that?

I got to do that a few times during a stint with network security in the Air Force.

 

[Jarhead]

i um understand what knee pad patty entails grandpa.
No sense of humor.

I had no doubt that you knew what knee pad plasma meant, sonny. No doubt at all.
On the other hand, the word "grunt".....

low level employee who does all the low level grunt work, while the higher ups sit back and relax.

Yeah i know what a grunt is in this setting.

Also see military grunt, Who also in the same sense take all the heat in battles( and what not) while the higher ups stay out of the battle...

Just in an effort to remain fair...

Those higher ups? Moststarted off as grunts...and due to their work ethic as grunts, they were promoted to positions where they had to take the fall for a bad grunt, but didnt have to do the work of the grunt.

It is known as "paying your dues"....

 

[Jarhead]

low level employee who does all the low level grunt work, while the higher ups sit back and relax.

Yeah i know what a grunt is in this setting.

Also see military grunt, Who also in the same sense take all the heat in battles( and what not) while the higher ups stay out of the battle...

Just in an effort to remain fair...

Those higher ups? Moststarted off as grunts...and due to their work ethic as grunts, they were promoted to positions where they had to take the fall for a bad grunt, but didnt have to do the work of the grunt.

It is known as "paying your dues"....

true, but i didnt feel like going that into detail

Yeah...but the way you said "the higher ups sit back and relax".....it came across as a dig against those that paid their dues and worked their way up.

And as it pertains to military...I think I would prefer to be on the front following orders than be behind the scenes sending men and women into the line of fire....it may be a promotion....but taking on the responsibility of the lives of hundreds?

Heck, I was a lifeguard during my younger ears...and the pressure of hundreds of beachgoers depending on me to ensure they dont die was exhausting.

But it sure as hell got me dates!

 

[Care4all]

There is some truth to what you wrote Meister, but civil service tests - both written and oral - make such practices somewhat transparent. As a manager I served on many interview boards and was overruled twice by the Chief. In both cases I was approached by the candidate who was not promoted (of course this usually happended, people want to know how to interview better/what they did wrong, etc.) and explained candidly what happened and how to fix it. Both were latter promoted. What I told them was the chief wanted yes men - he himself was an empty suit - and to make sure to kiss ass. In some cases the end justifies the means. 'Leaders' like that chief are easy to manipulate once you know what motivates them.

I've seen people get busted for sexual harrassment and instead of going through the hassle of demoting or firing...they were elevated to a higher position and transferred to another district, Wry.

I saw the same, only in the Private sector....my boss was transferred to a california division for getting his secretary pregnant, while he was supposedly happily married....and the only thing that changed was that the rest of us managers, not involved in his sexual harassment case, were forced to view a video on sexual harassment by managers.... he probably never had to go through the video...just a pay raise, bigger bonus, and a transfer for him.

I will say, I missed him greatly, when he was transferred. He was the best President my division ever had....he just seemed to have problems with keeping his zipper zipped....but he was insightful, could see a business opportunity quicker than anyone, and had the guts to pursue them...he inspired us all to not let a brick wall get in our way of improving and creating, new business opportunities.

 

[McDowell's]

And, there's nothing but hearsay to support it. Allegations aren't the same as facts.

I'm wondering why he is willing to come out and say he didn't get the woman a job but not willing to come out and say he didn't screw her. The events that are being talked about in this thread happened long before the Wisconsin collective bargaining incident.

He certainly no longer lives at the home, that much is for sure. He certainly is no longer with his wife, that much is for sure. The question is why she would lie about something so easily refutable?

Did someone interviewing him ask if he had screwed the woman? The guy was directly asked in an interview if he had helped the woman get a job. He didn't just arbitrarily declare that he hadn't helped her.

So he no longer lives with the woman he's getting divorced from? That's the whole basis of your belief he's having an affair. HE'S GETTING A DIVORCE. Why would he continue to live with the person he's divorcing? That's not his home anymore. It'd be strange if he was still living in the same house as the person he's getting divorced from. Not the other way around.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You do realize that this is an everyday occurance with government and politics, right?
With government, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
That's why our government screws up everything it touches.

And yet not one shred of evidence tis woman got her Job in a shady manner. No evidence the Senator had any connection to her hiring at all. Go figure.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You do realize that this is an everyday occurance with government and politics, right?
With government, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
That's why our government screws up everything it touches.

So that makes this okay?

You have YET to provide any evidence the Senator had anything at all to do with hiring her. But then facts have never been your strong point.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You correct.

And now we can add you to the list of people that post non story's...thanks to your confirmation!

Funny.

I'm curious as to why you don't think there is any possibility whatsoever that he helped his mistress get this job. And I don't think it's a non-story, and neither would the people in Wisconsin who care about stomping out corruption.

So the jest of your entire argument is that since he is a Republican and we have ABSOLUTELY ZERO evidence any of the claims are in fact true, we should just assume they are true. That about it?

Par for the course for you Modbert. Par for the course.

 

[signelect]

This is just a rehash of old stuff it goes on all the time, both sides of the aisle. I have a question? How many family members of any given congressman or woman end up on the gov payroll at the end of 4 years. I bet it is a lot and that does not even address the question of qualifications.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Isn't it telling that Modbert and Company whine like stuck pigs if anyone makes a similar charge with NO evidence against a liberal? They remind us all this is America where one is INNOCENT till proven guilty.

But if it is a Republican or a Conservative Modbert is all for stringing them up with out even a shred of evidence. And that is EXACTLY what this thread is trying to do, with ZERO evidence Modbert would have us condemn a man for something we have no evidence he did. And his liberal buddies all agree.

 

[Yurt]

While Bill Clinton is alive democrats should bury their heads in shame rather than try to bring up trivial alleged morality issues as a political tool.

Since I'm not a Democrat, your point is completely useless. But I give you points for trying.

when did this happen? have you started as many threads bashing dems as you have pubs? even 1/4 the amount?

 

[Yurt]

Isn't it telling that Modbert and Company whine like stuck pigs if anyone makes a similar charge with NO evidence against a liberal? They remind us all this is America where one is INNOCENT till proven guilty.

But if it is a Republican or a Conservative Modbert is all for stringing them up with out even a shred of evidence. And that is EXACTLY what this thread is trying to do, with ZERO evidence Modbert would have us condemn a man for something we have no evidence he did. And his liberal buddies all agree.

MODBERT is NOT a democrat!!!!!!!!

 

[Luissa]

And once again, it turns into bashing each other.

Bottom line and one that was completely ignored...and not surprised it was....

It is not unusual for a lobbyist to get a job in government. Likely the senator was one of MANY people she knew....and her knowledge and work ethic was known well by people in the Capitol...so for her to get a job there makes sense.

End of conversation.

You mean she gave great blow jobs?

 

[Luissa]

Isn't it telling that Modbert and Company whine like stuck pigs if anyone makes a similar charge with NO evidence against a liberal? They remind us all this is America where one is INNOCENT till proven guilty.

But if it is a Republican or a Conservative Modbert is all for stringing them up with out even a shred of evidence. And that is EXACTLY what this thread is trying to do, with ZERO evidence Modbert would have us condemn a man for something we have no evidence he did. And his liberal buddies all agree.

I guess we could spend $70 million dollars on trying to find out.