What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like

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    What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/

    Posted by Erick Erickson (Diary)

    Friday, January 6th at 12:13PM EST
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    I’m rather tired of all the people who don’t like Romney trying to claim Rick Santorum is not a big government conservative, or not a pro-life statist. I would support him before I would support Romney too, but I have no intention of giving up ideological and intellectual consistency in the name of beating Mitt Romney.

    Rick Santorum is a pro-life statist. He is. You will have to deal with it. He is a big government conservative. Santorum is right on social issues, but has never let his love of social issues stand in the way of the creeping expansion of the welfare state. In fact, he has been complicit in the expansion of the welfare state.

    I and some friends, none of us Romney fans, have set about exploring Santorum’s record since Wednesday morning. Here now is a non-exhaustive list of what we have found. It does not even include his support for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, etc.

    This is not the record of a man committed to scaling back the welfare state or the nanny state


    Immigration
    Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
    Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
    Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
    Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
    Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.



    Spending and Entitlements
    Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
    Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
    Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
    Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.


    Health Care
    Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
    Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
    Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.

    Education
    Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
    Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
    Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.


    Welfare
    Voted against food stamp reform
    Voted against Medicaid reform
    Voted against TANF reform
    Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
    Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
    Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.

    Sounds like a liberal to me!

    Here is some more of Sandorum.:eusa_shifty:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFr8sbYlEgo]Rick Santorum 2006 Wrestling Ad on Compromising With Democrats. - YouTube[/ame]

    "I and some friends, none of us Romney fans, have set about exploring Santorum’s record since Wednesday morning. Here now is a non-exhaustive list of what we have found. It does not even include his support for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, etc.
    This is not the record of a man committed to scaling back the welfare state or the nanny state."

    :eek:
     
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    even the fact that there is a term like "big government conservative" drives me crazy. you're either fiscally responsible (what conservative use to mean) or you're fiscally irresponsible (what pretty much both parties are now).
     
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    Sandorum is a George Bush kind.:eusa_shhh:
     
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    Sounds like a liberal? Republicans tell people to go to the emergency room which costs 10 times more than going to a clinic. The cost is passed on to the tax payer. Democrats want to protect the Middle Class from going broke. Republicans want to drain them dry to enrich the top 1%.

    If you are going to make what you consider "factual statements", at least make sure they are "factual". That's why Republican talking points make no sense. Because they make no sense.
     
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    Yeah, anyone that supports a big federal government handing out free shit is a liberal! That's a fact.:eusa_shifty:
     
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    Conservative never meant fiscally responsible. For the last 30 years, the only time there has been fiscal responsibility was during the Clinton admin. Before that going all the way back to WW2 every president was fiscally responsible. Trying to divide fiscally responsible vs fiscally irresponsible by party is going to be nearly impossible.
     
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    Kind of true, but Clinton only did good because he had someone like newt holding his ass to the fire. I will admit when it comes to the economy, he was fairly good. Carter and Obama suck and are big spenders on the other hand.

    Reagan, George hw Bush and George W Bush all spent lots of money, while being socially conserative. All working except clinton to grow debt and governement. Rick Sandorum would be just like Bush as many of the bills he supported were Bush pushed bills.
     
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    I like the way how Ron Paul started to expose this turkey at the start of the debate,. All Rick could do is spin, spin and spin some more!
     
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    We're supposed to take the criticism of a Ron Paul wookie-suiter seriously here? Rly?
     

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