WH Threatens to Veto Anti-Sanctuary City Bill

[Flopper]

are there laws saying it's illegal for law enforcement, or anybody else for that matter, to ask if somebody is here legally???

I don't think there is any law prohibiting police from asking a person if they are in the country illegally. However, the person certainly doesn't have to answer and there failure to answer can't be used against them in a court of law because undocumented immigrants have 5th amendment rights.

what would they be in court for where that could be used against them if they were already found to be illegal? where would they be in court just for not answering the question???

I'm saying if a law enforcement officer ask a person if they are legally in the country, they refuse answer, and they are brought to immigration court, the fact that they refused to answer the question can't be used against them.

Here are some statistics that might clarify a few things.
ICE conducted 314,943 removals in 2014.
ICE conducted 213,719 removals of individuals apprehended while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States. The remainder of the removals were from interior of the country. Of those 85% were convicted felons.

Only 23,000 voluntarily left the US. The remainder were removed via a deportation order signed by an immigration judge.

FY 2014 ICE Immigration Removals

Correct.

Those undocumented are entitled to due process of the law, including the right to not self-incriminate.

Absence of documentation, or refusing to answer if questioned about documentation, is not 'proof' one is illegally in the country; refugees and asylees are allowed up to 30 days to apply for refugee or aslyee status, and may not be subject to punitive measures while those applications are pending.

Again: that one is undocumented does not mean he is 'illegal.'

as usual you losers on the Left are saying a whole bunch of nothing. nobody disputed they dont have to answer if they are here legally. can any of you idiots debate something without using a straw man?

straw man arguments aside; how does what you are whining about equate to it being a good idea to SHELTER CRIMINAL ILLEGALS FROM US IMMIGRATION LAWS??? seriously idiot how do you get there from just saying illegals dont have to self-identify as illegals??

Whether local police enforce federal immigration laws or not is a local or state issue. Any assistance that state or local police provide to the federal government in the enforcement of federal immigration laws is entirely voluntary. There is no provision of the U.S. Code or the Code of Federal Regulations that obligates local law enforcement agencies to devote any resources to the enforcement of federal immigration laws.

Many local law enforcement agencies have concluded that increased involvement of local police in immigration enforcement has eroded trust in the legal system among both legal and illegal immigrants. They are less likely to report crimes or work with the police. There have been several good studies that support these conclusions.

The first priority of local police is to protect and served the people of their community, not to investigate immigration law violators, half of which are only guilty of a status violation, which is not a criminal offense.

 

[bedowin62]

Whether local police enforce federal immigration laws or not is a local or state issue

sorry nutjob; i couldnt read past this point. any idiot so much of an intellectual coward, and so smug and full of hismelf that his wounded overblown ego makes him unable to admit it's long past time to admit he's wrong, that would come with something like this, isnt worthy of debating

 

[Ravi]

Good.

 

[bedowin62]

Good.

YAWN
yea this one is a real winner nutjob; stick with it!!!