Well.....We're On The Way To Freedom.......Real Freedom

1. On the one hand, as a person of religion, I'm disappointed.

2. But...I've seen your posts, and don't be so pleased about this information.
Do you understand the political perspective of mainline Protestants?

3. In 1907, a group of Methodists formed the Methodist Federation for Social Service (MFSS). The aim was to influence other Protestant groups. The next day, the group is received by President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. One of the leaders, Harry F. Ward drafts a Social Creed that will be adopted by the 1908 General Conference and by the Federal Council of the Churches of Christ in America.
MFSA » History Timeline




4. In the early Twenties the Communist Party made considerable gains in its program to infiltrate the churches. This effort was led by such prominent "American" clergymen as Harry F. Ward ( "one of the leading collaborators of, and apologists for, the Soviet Union." ...), Jerome Davis, William B. Spofford, and Albert Rhys Williams. at the 1942 convention of the Federal Council of Churches called for: Ultimately, "a world government of delegated powers." Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism. Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty. International control of all armies and navies. A universal system of money.... Worldwide freedom of immigration. Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade .... A "democratically controlled" international bank ....
APOSTASY -- The National Council Of Churches

You're down with that, aren't you?



And this:


5. The Social Gospel enthusiasts switched the aim from labor rights to attacks on the “profit motive,” …capitalism.

a. “The church, therefore, in the opinion of the federation, must accept
the Marxist point of view…The federation, therefore, wants the religious leaders to preach a religious creed, not based upon the Bible and in defense of the American way of life, but one that is based upon the atheistic foundations of the philosophy of Marx. The federation wants the ministers to declare their judgment against the social economic system under which Americans live and prosper today in favor of the Socialist system, which in Russia and the satellite countries has brought the peoples.” Read the ebook Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area. Hearings (Volume pt. 5-6, pp. 1969-2143) by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-Am




6. The percentage of Americans who attend and belong to a church has remained constant for over 70 years. But predominantly liberal mainline Protestant denominations have lost members for over 50 years. “From 1960 to 1988, mainline church membership declined from 31 million to 25 million, then fell to 21 million in 2005.[6][7] Today, they are a minority among American Protestants, claiming approximately 15 percent of American adults among their adherents.[8]” Mainline Protestant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



You should be more careful what you wish for.

I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.

Your hatred of religion, and vis a vis religous people is sad. What a pathetic person you are.

I don't give a damn how I appear to somebody who is either hopelessly brainwashed or naive. The fairy tale's days are limited like it or not.


All of the religions in one way or another were originated by ignorant primitives who fell for magic acts and/or believed in ghosts and witches. I might add that they couldn't accept their mortality. We're all gonna die and not the first one is coming back. Go ahead and mention that to your next country preachin'.
 
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I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.


I have bad news for you Dummmbell. The same religious freedom that allows you to be a proselytizing atheist permits anybody (and everybody) else -- should they so choose -- to believe in a higher power.

In other words, you senile pantload piece of crap, you will never "be pleased."

I'm good with that.

:clap2:

Don't worry bra, no one's going to take away your invisible friend and all his invisible toys.

I am not worried, ya smegma breath fuckwit. Nobody is forcing assholes like Dummmbell or you to believe in God, either, you hideously stupid twat.
 
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I have bad news for you Dummmbell. The same religious freedom that allows you to be a proselytizing atheist permits anybody (and everybody) else -- should they so choose -- to believe in a higher power.

In other words, you senile pantload piece of crap, you will never "be pleased."

I'm good with that.

:clap2:

Don't worry bra, no one's going to take away your invisible friend and all his invisible toys.

I am not worried, ya smegma breath fuckwit. Nobody is forcing assholes like Dummmbell or you to believe in God, either, you hideously stupid twat.


Jesus said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 
I don't give a damn how I appear to somebody who is either hopelessly brainwashed or naive. The fairy tale's days are limited like it or not.


All of the religions in one way or another were originated by ignorant primitives who fell for magic acts and/or believed in ghosts and witches. I might add that they couldn't accept their mortality. We're all gonna die and not the first one is coming back. Go ahead and mention that to your next country preachin'.

You dont care how you look to yourself? That explains alot
 
Don't worry bra, no one's going to take away your invisible friend and all his invisible toys.

I am not worried, ya smegma breath fuckwit. Nobody is forcing assholes like Dummmbell or you to believe in God, either, you hideously stupid twat.


Jesus said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

I could have sworn you said that Christ told us to hate the rich. Now you're saying He told us to love our enemies. Maybe you should get your story straight.
 
Report: U.S. Protestants lose majority status - Oak Ridge, TN - Oakridger - Oak Ridge, TN


"For the first time in its history, the United States does not have a Protestant majority, according to a new study. One reason: The number of Americans with no religious affiliation is on the rise"

1. On the one hand, as a person of religion, I'm disappointed.

2. But...I've seen your posts, and don't be so pleased about this information.
Do you understand the political perspective of mainline Protestants?

3. In 1907, a group of Methodists formed the Methodist Federation for Social Service (MFSS). The aim was to influence other Protestant groups. The next day, the group is received by President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. One of the leaders, Harry F. Ward drafts a Social Creed that will be adopted by the 1908 General Conference and by the Federal Council of the Churches of Christ in America.
MFSA » History Timeline




4. In the early Twenties the Communist Party made considerable gains in its program to infiltrate the churches. This effort was led by such prominent "American" clergymen as Harry F. Ward ( "one of the leading collaborators of, and apologists for, the Soviet Union." ...), Jerome Davis, William B. Spofford, and Albert Rhys Williams. at the 1942 convention of the Federal Council of Churches called for: Ultimately, "a world government of delegated powers." Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism. Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty. International control of all armies and navies. A universal system of money.... Worldwide freedom of immigration. Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade .... A "democratically controlled" international bank ....
APOSTASY -- The National Council Of Churches

You're down with that, aren't you?



And this:


5. The Social Gospel enthusiasts switched the aim from labor rights to attacks on the “profit motive,” …capitalism.

a. “The church, therefore, in the opinion of the federation, must accept
the Marxist point of view…The federation, therefore, wants the religious leaders to preach a religious creed, not based upon the Bible and in defense of the American way of life, but one that is based upon the atheistic foundations of the philosophy of Marx. The federation wants the ministers to declare their judgment against the social economic system under which Americans live and prosper today in favor of the Socialist system, which in Russia and the satellite countries has brought the peoples.” Read the ebook Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area. Hearings (Volume pt. 5-6, pp. 1969-2143) by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-Am




6. The percentage of Americans who attend and belong to a church has remained constant for over 70 years. But predominantly liberal mainline Protestant denominations have lost members for over 50 years. “From 1960 to 1988, mainline church membership declined from 31 million to 25 million, then fell to 21 million in 2005.[6][7] Today, they are a minority among American Protestants, claiming approximately 15 percent of American adults among their adherents.[8]” Mainline Protestant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



You should be more careful what you wish for.

I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.



The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?”

But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder.
David Mamet
 
Don't worry bra, no one's going to take away your invisible friend and all his invisible toys.

I am not worried, ya smegma breath fuckwit. Nobody is forcing assholes like Dummmbell or you to believe in God, either, you hideously stupid twat.


Jesus said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


So?

You are one of the smega breaths who proselytize all the time about the irrationality of any religious faith/belief, yet you think you're somehow persuasive because you can look up and recite some Biblical passage?

You aren't even a 100th part as smart as you seem to think you are, you pathetic senile old fuckwit.

Fact.
 
1. On the one hand, as a person of religion, I'm disappointed.

2. But...I've seen your posts, and don't be so pleased about this information.
Do you understand the political perspective of mainline Protestants?

3. In 1907, a group of Methodists formed the Methodist Federation for Social Service (MFSS). The aim was to influence other Protestant groups. The next day, the group is received by President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. One of the leaders, Harry F. Ward drafts a Social Creed that will be adopted by the 1908 General Conference and by the Federal Council of the Churches of Christ in America.
MFSA » History Timeline






4. In the early Twenties the Communist Party made considerable gains in its program to infiltrate the churches. This effort was led by such prominent "American" clergymen as Harry F. Ward ( "one of the leading collaborators of, and apologists for, the Soviet Union." ...), Jerome Davis, William B. Spofford, and Albert Rhys Williams. at the 1942 convention of the Federal Council of Churches called for: Ultimately, "a world government of delegated powers." Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism. Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty. International control of all armies and navies. A universal system of money.... Worldwide freedom of immigration. Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade .... A "democratically controlled" international bank ....
APOSTASY -- The National Council Of Churches

You're down with that, aren't you?



And this:


5. The Social Gospel enthusiasts switched the aim from labor rights to attacks on the “profit motive,” …capitalism.

a. “The church, therefore, in the opinion of the federation, must accept
the Marxist point of view…The federation, therefore, wants the religious leaders to preach a religious creed, not based upon the Bible and in defense of the American way of life, but one that is based upon the atheistic foundations of the philosophy of Marx. The federation wants the ministers to declare their judgment against the social economic system under which Americans live and prosper today in favor of the Socialist system, which in Russia and the satellite countries has brought the peoples.” Read the ebook Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area. Hearings (Volume pt. 5-6, pp. 1969-2143) by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-Am




6. The percentage of Americans who attend and belong to a church has remained constant for over 70 years. But predominantly liberal mainline Protestant denominations have lost members for over 50 years. “From 1960 to 1988, mainline church membership declined from 31 million to 25 million, then fell to 21 million in 2005.[6][7] Today, they are a minority among American Protestants, claiming approximately 15 percent of American adults among their adherents.[8]” Mainline Protestant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



You should be more careful what you wish for.

I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.

wow you are SO TOLERANT, you make a good liberal


I was a Republican for thirty years...voted for Nixon three times and even though I wish I could take it back I voted for Reagan in 1984. The bible thumping supporters of the greediest people in the world have taken what used to be a good political party to the place where they look up and see whale shit.
 
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I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.

Your hatred of religion, and vis a vis religous people is sad. What a pathetic person you are.

I don't give a damn how I appear to somebody who is either hopelessly brainwashed or naive. The fairy tale's days are limited like it or not.


All of the religions in one way or another were originated by ignorant primitives who fell for magic acts and/or believed in ghosts and witches. I might add that they couldn't accept their mortality. We're all gonna die and not the first one is coming back. Go ahead and mention that to your next country preachin'.

THIS is why people tend to not like Atheists, Smug self important twits such as yourself, preaching your illusionary intellectual superiority.

And i doubt you really accept your mortality, you probably just ignore it.
 
I know one thing. I'm 78 years old and during my lifetime this nation's overall attitude about religion has morphed from one which didn't even have the choice of NONE, AGNOSTIC or ATHEIST on military enlistment forms to one where those who doubt can openly declare it on desktop computers in their home so millions can read it.

When I was in grammar school, 3rd and 4th grades we began each day with the pledge of allegiance and the lord's prayer. The teachers assigned each student a bible verse on Monday's to memorize and recite back to the class on Thursdays or Fridays. Let them try that horse shit now.

Because of my childhood brainwashing with that ancient fairy tale it took me 60 years to get over it. I will be voicing my opinion about the whole story until I die.

If the god of the universe came down 2000 years ago and dropped off the only keys to the kingdom with a bunch of ignorant camel herders who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat he/she/it has one helluva sense of humor.

Let's be honest here. You aren't over anything. If you were over it you wouldn't be obsessed at trying (but failing) to insult and discredit faith. You'd be able to live your life without any issue.

But as you've said in this very thread, you wont be "happy" unless everyone else is as misreable as you are. Meanwhile, those you ridicule are happy and find joy in the fruits of the Spirit.

You don't have to be miserable. You can find joy also. It's not too late to exercise faith in Christ and repent of your sins. Christ loves you. He died for you. He will welcome you back with open arms. He can heal you. You don't have to feel bitter, miserable, angry, hurt, etc. Instead, you can feel joy, light, peace, etc.

Ill be voicing my testimony to you and exhorting you to come to Christ until you die as well. And when you get to the other side of the veil of death, you will still hear the Gospel proclaimed to you. So when the time comes for the resurrection, you will either Rise in joy and happiness or misery. But the choice will be up to you.
 
I am not worried, ya smegma breath fuckwit. Nobody is forcing assholes like Dummmbell or you to believe in God, either, you hideously stupid twat.


Jesus said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


So?

You are one of the smega breaths who proselytize all the time about the irrationality of any religious faith/belief, yet you think you're somehow persuasive because you can look up and recite some Biblical passage?

You aren't even a 100th part as smart as you seem to think you are, you pathetic senile old fuckwit.

Fact.

Fact: John Belushi WAS a fat, not funny, no talent cocaine and heroin shooter.
 
Your hatred of religion, and vis a vis religous people is sad. What a pathetic person you are.

I don't give a damn how I appear to somebody who is either hopelessly brainwashed or naive. The fairy tale's days are limited like it or not.


All of the religions in one way or another were originated by ignorant primitives who fell for magic acts and/or believed in ghosts and witches. I might add that they couldn't accept their mortality. We're all gonna die and not the first one is coming back. Go ahead and mention that to your next country preachin'.

THIS is why people tend to not like Atheists, Smug self important twits such as yourself, preaching your illusionary intellectual superiority.

And i doubt you really accept your mortality, you probably just ignore it.

I've got enough sense to know I won't meet some ghost floating on a cloud. The ignorant people in the world should be tolerated and the brainwashed pitied.
 
I've got enough sense to know I won't meet some ghost floating on a cloud. The ignorant people in the world should be tolerated and the brainwashed pitied.

And yet you dont have enough sense to realize that no one has claimed you are going to meet a ghost floating on a cloud.
 
I don't give a damn how I appear to somebody who is either hopelessly brainwashed or naive. The fairy tale's days are limited like it or not.


All of the religions in one way or another were originated by ignorant primitives who fell for magic acts and/or believed in ghosts and witches. I might add that they couldn't accept their mortality. We're all gonna die and not the first one is coming back. Go ahead and mention that to your next country preachin'.

THIS is why people tend to not like Atheists, Smug self important twits such as yourself, preaching your illusionary intellectual superiority.

And i doubt you really accept your mortality, you probably just ignore it.

I've got enough sense to know I won't meet some ghost floating on a cloud. The ignorant people in the world should be tolerated and the brainwashed pitied.

Awful kind o ya, massah.

I also doubt you have enough sense to get your way out of a 3 sided cardboard box, based upon your usual posting.
 
Jesus said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


So?

You are one of the smega breaths who proselytize all the time about the irrationality of any religious faith/belief, yet you think you're somehow persuasive because you can look up and recite some Biblical passage?

You aren't even a 100th part as smart as you seem to think you are, you pathetic senile old fuckwit.

Fact.

Fact: John Belushi WAS a fat, not funny, no talent cocaine and heroin shooter.

^ the USMB lightweight idiot scumbag who goes by the username of "ima" confuses its opinion with "fact."

:lol:

It IS a fact that Belushi was fat.

It is just your meaningless asshole OPINION, however, that he was supposedly "not funny."

It is just your meaningless asshole OPINION, moreover, that he had "no talent."

It may or may not be true that he shot cocaine and heroin, although it is a fact that he did abuse controlled substances.

"ima," you old leaky cock, for one short statement (a completely meaningless insertion on an off topic matter at that), you managed to be 50% wrong.

You win teh interwebs as the asshole of the day. Congratulations.

:clap2:
 
Fact: I have NEVER laughed at anything John Belushi ever did except overdosing on a speedball (heroin and cocaine together in the same shot).
Fact: if he had ANY talent, I surely would have laughed at something other than him overdosing.
Fact: His drug partner was convicted and did time for supplying him with, and shooting him up with heroin and cocaine.
Fact: your hero was a pathetic drug shooter.
 
THIS is why people tend to not like Atheists, Smug self important twits such as yourself, preaching your illusionary intellectual superiority.

And i doubt you really accept your mortality, you probably just ignore it.

I've got enough sense to know I won't meet some ghost floating on a cloud. The ignorant people in the world should be tolerated and the brainwashed pitied.

Awful kind o ya, massah.

I also doubt you have enough sense to get your way out of a 3 sided cardboard box, based upon your usual posting.

I guess your response means you believe you are going to rise up from a grave, meet a ghost floating on a cloud and go off to paradise and live forever.

How many firearms do you have there in your humble abode to guard your bible? The only violence ever shown by Jesus was over those who were earning filthy lucre in the temple:

Matthew 21:12
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves"

I'll bet he would have a field day on Wall St.
 
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I won't be pleased until all ancient god worship is put aside for science. Walking on water, resurrection, witches, flat earth, the hereafter, etc. is the biggest load of shit ever promulgated onto mankind in the history of the world. Nobody lives it anyway.

Speak for yourself.

Plus, I dont think you are required to worship a God, so lighten up Cammie.

Cammmmpy is the very epitome of the "tolerant" left. Fucking intolerant whackjobs.
 
I doubt the presence or absence of theism would introduce more freedom.

Now, if you get rid of the boorishpushy people that constantly try to tell you what to think and say, then we might gain more freedom.

Well, we will lose the freedom to be boorish and pushy, won't we?:tongue:
 
I doubt the presence or absence of theism would introduce more freedom.

Now, if you get rid of the boorishpushy people that constantly try to tell you what to think and say, then we might gain more freedom.

Well, we will lose the freedom to be boorish and pushy, won't we?:tongue:

Like I just posted in another thread...the very thought of science and fact scares the hell out of the folks who believe god came along and dropped off the only keys to the kingdom to a bunch of ignorant nomads back when magic, witches and a flat earth were avante garde. It's why fundamentalist groups build their own schools and colleges so they can be sure there's no side to be considered other than what the bible says. Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell, Jim Bakkar, Pat Robertson and Oral Roberts come to mind.
 
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