Well , he signed the NDAA

[The T]

In order to get uninterrupted funding for the military, the president had no choice but to agree to the Repub's demands for this. Because President Obama is against it, he did what almost all presidents have done in the past - he added his own signing statement.

those who don't like this should complain to the Repubs who forced it. Not that it will do any good. This is the underhanded, sneaky way the pubs get what they want - blackmail

He could have made good on his veto threat. Congress would have stayed in session and passed a bill that would give temp funding to the military, then come back and done the NDAA right. Defending the signing of the law makes you no different than the jerks who wrote it, you support indefinite detention of American citizens.

^Right On.

 

[Skull Pilot]

What do you think about this?

Just one more step to the total police state.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Again, there is nothing in the NDAA which authorizes the president, the military, or any other official entity to detain Americans or LPRAs indefinitely without due process or benefit of counsel:

'AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States…

APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

Obama’s signing statement acknowledges this fact, and like Obama future presidents will not have the authority to detain Americans.

The idea that the NDAA authorizes indefinite detention of Americans is an ignorant rightist contrivance.

I suggest you look at section 1021 of the document obama signed into law.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

In order to get uninterrupted funding for the military, the president had no choice but to agree to the Repub's demands for this. Because President Obama is against it, he did what almost all presidents have done in the past - he added his own signing statement.

those who don't like this should complain to the Repubs who forced it. Not that it will do any good. This is the underhanded, sneaky way the pubs get what they want - blackmail

You should never give up rights to have a little safety.

 

[Robodoon]

Ron paul just introduced a bill to correct NDAA!

Yeah Ron Paul! A true Constitutional Statesman, the best we have.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ron paul just introduced a bill to correct NDAA!

Yeah Ron Paul! A true Constitutional Statesman, the best we have.

I agree

 

[Wacky Quacky]

In order to get uninterrupted funding for the military, the president had no choice but to agree to the Repub's demands for this. Because President Obama is against it, he did what almost all presidents have done in the past - he added his own signing statement.

those who don't like this should complain to the Repubs who forced it. Not that it will do any good. This is the underhanded, sneaky way the pubs get what they want - blackmail

Complete partisan bullshit. Both paties signed on to this piece of shit, but the American people are too busy blaming each other's party to do anything about it.

Democrats and republicans, both of you are not only responsible in terms of voting in the rat bastards who wrote and signed for this, all in the name of beating the other party. But you will be at fault for nothing being done about the bill because you'll be so busy blaming each other that you'll never join together to stop your common enemy. Washington has divided you retards on purpose, it has nothing to do with ideology, but with keeping themselves in power and keeping you occupied while they both take away your freedoms. Would you wake the fuck up already.

 

[KissMy]

Again, there is nothing in the NDAA which authorizes the president, the military, or any other official entity to detain Americans or LPRAs indefinitely without due process or benefit of counsel:

'AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States…

APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

Obama’s signing statement acknowledges this fact, and like Obama future presidents will not have the authority to detain Americans.

The idea that the NDAA authorizes indefinite detention of Americans is an ignorant rightist contrivance.

You are a complete idiot.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY"]Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBdPEK5pNtE&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF2EE8F9B7523E752"]Obama Implements 'Prolonged Detention'[/ame]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Again, there is nothing in the NDAA which authorizes the president, the military, or any other official entity to detain Americans or LPRAs indefinitely without due process or benefit of counsel:

'AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States…

APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

Obama’s signing statement acknowledges this fact, and like Obama future presidents will not have the authority to detain Americans.

The idea that the NDAA authorizes indefinite detention of Americans is an ignorant rightist contrivance.

You are a complete idiot.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY"]Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBdPEK5pNtE&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF2EE8F9B7523E752"]Obama Implements 'Prolonged Detention'[/ame]

The NDAA was written to be deceptive. one part give U,S Citizens protection but just before that part it doesn't.

 

[KissMy]

District judge Katherine Forest ruled the NDAA unconstitutional. Obama has now appealed the decision because he really wants to be dictator and his subjects have no rights or liberties.

It is amazing how MSNBC has not covered this like they have Romneys dog.

 

[Againsheila]

I don't live in fear over this. I live in disgust.

I live in both...anyone, anyone who tells you today that they are not afraid of our government locking them up and throwing away the key isn't paying attention. Your neighbor could accuse you of terrorism and without any proof at all, the government can lock you up for the rest of your life, they don't even have to tell you relatives let alone give you a lawyer. Best hope you don't make any enemies. We have become Nazi Germany.

 

[Againsheila]

District judge Katherine Forest ruled the NDAA unconstitutional. Obama has now appealed the decision because he really wants to be dictator and his subjects have no rights or liberties.

It is amazing how MSNBC has not covered this like they have Romneys dog.

It not just Obama behind this...the reps are deep in it too. Both the reps and the dems have sold out the American people.

 

[dblack]

District judge Katherine Forest ruled the NDAA unconstitutional. Obama has now appealed the decision because he really wants to be dictator and his subjects have no rights or liberties.

It is amazing how MSNBC has not covered this like they have Romneys dog.

It not just Obama behind this...the reps are deep in it too. Both the reps and the dems have sold out the American people.

Absolutely. The left/right dispute is a charade to distract us.

 

[Againsheila]

District judge Katherine Forest ruled the NDAA unconstitutional. Obama has now appealed the decision because he really wants to be dictator and his subjects have no rights or liberties.

It is amazing how MSNBC has not covered this like they have Romneys dog.

It not just Obama behind this...the reps are deep in it too. Both the reps and the dems have sold out the American people.

Absolutely. The left/right dispute is a charade to distract us.

And yet, so many Americans have bought into the charade. I don't get it, I thought we were smarter than this.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It not just Obama behind this...the reps are deep in it too. Both the reps and the dems have sold out the American people.

Absolutely. The left/right dispute is a charade to distract us.

And yet, so many Americans have bought into the charade. I don't get it, I thought we were smarter than this.

It's not possible to stay brainwashed and be smart.

 

[paulitician]

Of course he did.

 

[KissMy]

NDAA injunction