Wealthy Americans and Taxes

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Conservative Politics Low-Effort Thinking Linked In New Study

right, Aristotle Cicero Locke Jefferson and Friedman were low effort thinkers!!

why not tell us what you have against freedom or admit you lack the IQ to be here!!

 

[Dad2three]

ONE policy conservatives have EVER been on the correct side of history on!

1) conservatives destroyed soviet liberalism while our liberals spied for Stalin,gave him the bomb and elected Obama despite his 3 libcommie parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders

2) our founding conservatives wanted very very limited govt and it produced the greatest country in human history by far. Liberals opposed

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance. What other conclusion is possible?

Yes they wanted the limited Gov't so much they gave up the strong states rights Articles for the STRONG Fed Constitution

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Got it, ANOTHER low info right winger upset because I'm informed and have sources to back up my 'beliefs' versus the usual right wingers 'gut feelings'...

Yeah, you're "informed." If you say so. By the way, if you're so correct and informed about your viewpoints why is your party about to get its ass handed to it in two weeks?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Weird how such a high PERCENTAGE of those voting Romney increased the SNAP program right? And that blues states provide the money to the red states, like Alaska that gives out their socialists energy checks thanks to the lower 49?

A large portion of that spending is to military, which are located mostly in "red" states.

If you're so upset about money from Democratic leaning states being transferred to Republican leaning states why do you keep supporting politicians who do it? You're voting for this.

 

[Dad2three]

Weird how such a high PERCENTAGE of those voting Romney increased the SNAP program right? And that blues states provide the money to the red states, like Alaska that gives out their socialists energy checks thanks to the lower 49?

A large portion of that spending is to military, which are located mostly in "red" states.

If you're so upset about money from Democratic leaning states being transferred to Republican leaning states why do you keep supporting politicians who do it? You're voting for this.

More right wing MYTHS. Shocking


Defense spending
Dollar amounts



#1 Virginia- $56.9 Billion Democrats have now won seven of Virginia’s eight high-profile, statewide races since 2005 (three Senate races, two Presidential contests, and two of three gubernatorial elections). The lone exception, Bob McDonnell’s gubernatorial victory in 2009, provides an instructive contrast with the current contest.

# 2 Calif $56.7 Billion

#3 Texas $42.1 Billion (the ONLY red state to send more to DC than they get back, barely, $1.01 for each dollar back)


HUGE drops from there!

http://forbes.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bloomberg.pdf

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yes they wanted the limited Gov't so much they gave up the strong states rights Articles for the STRONG Fed Constitution

100% completely stupid and illiterate as usual. Most thought the new Constitution was little more than the Articles and none thought it created a strong Central govt. In fact, the govt they created and then presided over was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. What does that teach you?

since you are an obviousl and very typical liberal illiterate welcome to your first lesson in American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison


Now do you see why our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Weird how such a high PERCENTAGE of those voting Romney increased the SNAP program right? And that blues states provide the money to the red states, like Alaska that gives out their socialists energy checks thanks to the lower 49?

A large portion of that spending is to military, which are located mostly in "red" states.

If you're so upset about money from Democratic leaning states being transferred to Republican leaning states why do you keep supporting politicians who do it? You're voting for this.

More right wing MYTHS. Shocking


Defense spending
Dollar amounts



#1 Virginia- $56.9 Billion Democrats have now won seven of Virginia’s eight high-profile, statewide races since 2005 (three Senate races, two Presidential contests, and two of three gubernatorial elections). The lone exception, Bob McDonnell’s gubernatorial victory in 2009, provides an instructive contrast with the current contest.

# 2 Calif $56.7 Billion

#3 Texas $42.1 Billion (the ONLY red state to send more to DC than they get back, barely, $1.01 for each dollar back)


HUGE drops from there!

http://forbes.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bloomberg.pdf

A. You did not disprove what I said.

B. Only a simpleton such as yourself would view a state as one homogenious entity as opposed to breaking it down as to who in those states are receiving a lot of that money.

Exploding the left s red state myths Rare

C. You didn't answer my question as to why you continue to support politicians who engage in this redistribution if you're so opposed to it.

 

[Dad2three]

Yes they wanted the limited Gov't so much they gave up the strong states rights Articles for the STRONG Fed Constitution

100% completely stupid and illiterate as usual. Most thought the new Constitution was little more than the Articles and none thought it created a strong Central govt. In fact, the govt they created and then presided over was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. What does that teach you?

since you are an obviousl and very typical liberal illiterate welcome to your first lesson in American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison


Now do you see why our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb?

That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

Comments: Although the ideas expressed in this quotation may be in line with Jefferson's opinions to some extent, the exact phrasing is almost certainly not Jefferson's.
That government is best which governs least. Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.


Earliest known appearance in print: 1986
The democracy will cease to exist... Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello

Madison? Oh right the guy who wanted the federal veto power over ALL state laws!

 

[Dad2three]

Weird how such a high PERCENTAGE of those voting Romney increased the SNAP program right? And that blues states provide the money to the red states, like Alaska that gives out their socialists energy checks thanks to the lower 49?

A large portion of that spending is to military, which are located mostly in "red" states.

If you're so upset about money from Democratic leaning states being transferred to Republican leaning states why do you keep supporting politicians who do it? You're voting for this.

More right wing MYTHS. Shocking


Defense spending
Dollar amounts



#1 Virginia- $56.9 Billion Democrats have now won seven of Virginia’s eight high-profile, statewide races since 2005 (three Senate races, two Presidential contests, and two of three gubernatorial elections). The lone exception, Bob McDonnell’s gubernatorial victory in 2009, provides an instructive contrast with the current contest.

# 2 Calif $56.7 Billion

#3 Texas $42.1 Billion (the ONLY red state to send more to DC than they get back, barely, $1.01 for each dollar back)


HUGE drops from there!

http://forbes.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bloomberg.pdf

A. You did not disprove what I said.

B. Only a simpleton such as yourself would view a state as one homogenious entity as opposed to breaking it down as to who in those states are receiving a lot of that money.

Exploding the left s red state myths Rare

C. You didn't answer my question as to why you continue to support politicians who engage in this redistribution if you're so opposed to it.

Who said I'm opposed to the red states sucking off the teet of the blue states?

Maxwell poll we are supposed to take seriously? lol

THIS

"Hardly surprising, we see that in a two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time Workers are evenly divided between parties"

60%-80%? LOL. Yeah, real close call there, lol

AND YOU ARE SERIOUS THAT A POLL OF 600 GIVES YOU A RESULT? LOL

The Campbell Institute (MAXWELL POLL) provides a supportive academic environment for the study of the moral, political, organizational, and legal foundations of citizenship and the institutions and organizations that define, support and facilitate citizenship in practice. In this, the Campbell Institute advances the larger mission of the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs.
.

WELL HELL, THEY WOULDN'T DISTORT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES RIGHT? LOL

That's a source that Aurthur C Brooks used as a 'source' for his 'who gives' bullshit that has been thoroughly debunked ALSO!




Lets throw in a different dynamic: It is a fact that the poorest states in the union are and vote Republican, i.e., governor, legislature, policies. Tell me then, if the Republican economic model is the solution to this countries economic woes, and will lead us down the road to prosperity, then why has it failed so bad in these states?

 

[Dad2three]

Weird how such a high PERCENTAGE of those voting Romney increased the SNAP program right? And that blues states provide the money to the red states, like Alaska that gives out their socialists energy checks thanks to the lower 49?

A large portion of that spending is to military, which are located mostly in "red" states.

If you're so upset about money from Democratic leaning states being transferred to Republican leaning states why do you keep supporting politicians who do it? You're voting for this.

More right wing MYTHS. Shocking


Defense spending
Dollar amounts



#1 Virginia- $56.9 Billion Democrats have now won seven of Virginia’s eight high-profile, statewide races since 2005 (three Senate races, two Presidential contests, and two of three gubernatorial elections). The lone exception, Bob McDonnell’s gubernatorial victory in 2009, provides an instructive contrast with the current contest.

# 2 Calif $56.7 Billion

#3 Texas $42.1 Billion (the ONLY red state to send more to DC than they get back, barely, $1.01 for each dollar back)


HUGE drops from there!

http://forbes.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bloomberg.pdf

A. You did not disprove what I said.

B. Only a simpleton such as yourself would view a state as one homogenious entity as opposed to breaking it down as to who in those states are receiving a lot of that money.

Exploding the left s red state myths Rare

C. You didn't answer my question as to why you continue to support politicians who engage in this redistribution if you're so opposed to it.

If GOP economic policy is so right; why are red states so poor?

55% of Americans received some sort of benefit, including 52% of Republicans. Self-described conservatives, liberals and independents all collected benefits in about the same amount (53%). 53% of Romney voters collected benefits. 97% of senior citizens (65 and older) have collected benefits, typically Social Security and Medicare. If we include veterans, the overall rate rises to 70%.


A Bipartisan Nation of Beneficiaries Pew Research Center s Social Demographic Trends Project


Even if we're looking at a means-tested benefit like SNAP, it doesn't change that much. While 10% of self-describe Republicans have collected SNAP vs 22% of Democrats, the numbers equal out when we look at ideology; self-described conservatives, liberals and independents all collected SNAP equally (17%).

The politics and demographics of food stamp recipients Pew Research Center

And of course, lots of rural and "Red" congressional districts have fairly high rates of SNAP participation:

The reality is that the people who collect benefits and who don't pay income tax are not in the pocket of the Democrats. They don't have a victim mentality. They don't eschew personal responsibility. Romney's characterization was inaccurate, and insulting to those who didn't fit his description.

In fact, since we can't know how Independents will vote, then they cannot be guessed (from a survey) either way. Plus, you can't possibly know which Independents that do receive benefits compared to those that don't receive them will vote.


While about 10% more Republican voters have never received welfare than Democrats, we have no idea how any of those Independents vote when it comes to elections. They could go to either party and they have about the same amount who haven't received welfare as Democrats. This also means that there is less than a 10% difference in who has received welfare at least once between Republicans and Democrats (54% vs 63%).


Here is where the information from your (biased) link comes from btw.

https://www.maxwell.syr.edu/uploaded...Pollof2007.pdf

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yes they wanted the limited Gov't so much they gave up the strong states rights Articles for the STRONG Fed Constitution

100% completely stupid and illiterate as usual. Most thought the new Constitution was little more than the Articles and none thought it created a strong Central govt. In fact, the govt they created and then presided over was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. What does that teach you?

since you are an obviousl and very typical liberal illiterate welcome to your first lesson in American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison


Now do you see why our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb?

That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

Comments: Although the ideas expressed in this quotation may be in line with Jefferson's opinions to some extent, the exact phrasing is almost certainly not Jefferson's.
That government is best which governs least. Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.


Earliest known appearance in print: 1986
The democracy will cease to exist... Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello

Madison? Oh right the guy who wanted the federal veto power over ALL state laws!

dear, what is your point? Do you think our Founders wanted tiny govt or not? Do you think they presided over a tiny govt or not. Do you think our liberals spied for Stalin and elected Obama because Stalin and Obama stand for tiny govt?

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If GOP economic policy is so right; why are red states so poor?

idiotic question and perfectly 1000% liberal. Most states are purple with no obvious distinction between red and blue. A clear example is east/ west germany or USSR/USA or Red China/capitalist china.

See why we are positive liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible.

 

[Dad2three]

Yes they wanted the limited Gov't so much they gave up the strong states rights Articles for the STRONG Fed Constitution

100% completely stupid and illiterate as usual. Most thought the new Constitution was little more than the Articles and none thought it created a strong Central govt. In fact, the govt they created and then presided over was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. What does that teach you?

since you are an obviousl and very typical liberal illiterate welcome to your first lesson in American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison


Now do you see why our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb?

That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

Comments: Although the ideas expressed in this quotation may be in line with Jefferson's opinions to some extent, the exact phrasing is almost certainly not Jefferson's.
That government is best which governs least. Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.


Earliest known appearance in print: 1986
The democracy will cease to exist... Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello

Madison? Oh right the guy who wanted the federal veto power over ALL state laws!

dear, what is your point? Do you think our Founders wanted tiny govt or not? Do you think they presided over a tiny govt or not. Do you think our liberals spied for Stalin and elected Obama because Stalin and Obama stand for tiny govt?

See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

Our Founders wanted EFFECTIVE Gov't, not to concerned on size. EVERYTHING else you posit is just noise


Reagan traded arms for hostages trying to overthrow a DEMOCRATICALLY elected Gov't, Republicanism? lol

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Madison? Oh right the guy who wanted the federal veto power over ALL state laws!

100% illiterate and liberal. Jefferson and Madison founded the Republican Party in 1793 and wrote the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions. If they stood for anything it was freedom from big liberal central govt.

Your knowledge of history is equal to your knowledge of economics.

 

[Dad2three]

If GOP economic policy is so right; why are red states so poor?

idiotic question and perfectly 1000% liberal. Most states are purple with no obvious distinction between red and blue. A clear example is east/ west germany or USSR/USA or Red China/capitalist china.

See why we are positive liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible.

Yeah.,. Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma are Democratic strong holds, lol

 

[Dad2three]

Madison? Oh right the guy who wanted the federal veto power over ALL state laws!

100% illiterate and liberal. Jefferson and Madison founded the Republican Party in 1793 and wrote the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions. If they stood for anything it was freedom from big liberal central govt.

Your knowledge of history is equal to your knowledge of economics.

Minored in history Bubba

Madison supported fed Gov't veto over states laws!


James Madison Godfather of the Constitution - The Early America Review Summer 1997

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our Founders wanted EFFECTIVE Gov't, not to concerned on size. EVERYTHING else you posit is just noise

too stupid!!! if they were not too concerned with size why did they give the govt only a few enumerated powers, play the branches off against each other, share power with states, and propose a Bill of Rights??

100% ignorant as usual

Thomas Jefferson:
"The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Reagan traded arms for hostages trying to overthrow a DEMOCRATICALLY elected Gov't, Republicanism? lol

too stupid!!! Reagan was fighting big govt communism and succeded in winning the cold war, saving the world from nuclear anniliation, and freeing 2 billion people while liberals were spying for Stalin and electing Obama.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Madison supported fed Gov't veto over states laws!

dear, who do you think wrote the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions. Jefferson and Madison were from virginia!!

Resolved, that the several States composing the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that by compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes, delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: That to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral party, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party....each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Madison supported fed Gov't veto over states laws!

too stupid!! Madison was from Virgina!!


"The government of the United States [federal government] is a definite government confined to specified objects [powers]. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. CHARITY IS NO PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE DUTY OF THE GOVERNMENT." -James Madison