We will Impeach Obama if he follows the Constitution: Republican Congressman

[Sallow]

Oh yes and now comes the never ending list of grievances in an attempt to justify the illegal actions today. Truly pathetic not that I expect any less

Oh crap.

Bad on me to show historical conservative hypocrisy on display.

But then again you guys like to do the "one off thing" only to be used because it's an emergency and should never be used again..because if someone else does it..it's just plain wrong.

Is that a fact seems to me they were the ones pointing out the Hypocrisy of the left how else to do we view the Left screaming bloody murder about what ever grievance is convenient today only to turn around and quite proudly say WELL THEY DID IT so it ok for us to do it.

Not unlike all the screaming about the previous administration and the involvement in the ME so today the Left proudly claims the right to attack any nation it wants under the pretext that well they did it so can we.

Libya is being run by man who not only supports world wide terrorism but has actively plotted and succeeded in killing Americans. GW Bush's acceptance of blood money not with standing, the rest of the world sees Libya as a blight..and agreed that Gaddafi should not be allowed to slaughter his own people. Even the Arab league, China and Russia signed on to that notion. But heck..if conservatives are so willing to support a known terrorist, a tyrant and an all around bad guy..have at it. They should do for the first time, what no other congress in the history of America has done..deny a president a war. Of course you guys would fall back on that ol "emergency situation, never to be repeated again" crap..but I would applaud it. Not because it is the right thing to do..but because somewhere down the line another President is going to do an Iraq or Vietnam again. And that time..congress can do that right thing.

 

[freedombecki]

I don't want to see an impeachment unless there is proof Obama is betraying his fellow Americans in some insidious way.

An American said to me that 200 million Americans are involved in pornography. Is this true?

<snipped of the rest of the (scatological insult omitted)>

This is the type of kitchen sink (2nd scatological reference omitted) you guys are getting behind?

Cheers.

I beg your pardon, sir. If your attitude is to pick an irrelevant fight, ignore the problem, sit on your hands and perfume the air with scatological verbiage, we can get rid of Obama quickly and clinically through constitutional means. I was simply inquiring to see if there was a reasonable man underneath the mask. You answered obtusely, but I take it as an answer.

 

[Sallow]

Ya had nothing at all to do with the first POS getting his dick sucked in the oval office by an intern.....something the left is oh so proud of.

Which constituted a high crime or misdemenor in what way? Was it worth it? Putting pressure on a President that was involved in rebuilding America's economy? Hunting for Osama Bin Laden? Seriously?

It also degraded what impeachment should actually be used for...and that would be removing a President that could be injurious to the Nation.

In fact..it turned the whole procedure into a farce. Which is the point.

Radical conservatives are seeking to nullify the American Government.

People need to bone up on thier history. <pun intended]

Bill was spot lighted due to sexual harrassment of an intern, then impeach for lying under oath.

He still got to serve out his term.

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

 

[Sallow]

An American said to me that 200 million Americans are involved in pornography. Is this true?

<snipped of the rest of the (scatological insult omitted)>

This is the type of kitchen sink (2nd scatological reference omitted) you guys are getting behind?

Cheers.

I beg your pardon, sir. If your attitude is to pick an irrelevant fight, ignore the problem, sit on your hands and perfume the air with scatological verbiage, we can get rid of Obama quickly and clinically through constitutional means. I was simply inquiring to see if there was a reasonable man underneath the mask. You answered obtusely, but I take it as an answer.

You're thinking I want to get rid of President Obama. I don't. Especially when conservatives have nuts like Bachmann or Perry in the queue.

 

[freedombecki]

Which constituted a high crime or misdemenor in what way? Was it worth it? Putting pressure on a President that was involved in rebuilding America's economy? Hunting for Osama Bin Laden? Seriously?

It also degraded what impeachment should actually be used for...and that would be removing a President that could be injurious to the Nation.

In fact..it turned the whole procedure into a farce. Which is the point.

Radical conservatives are seeking to nullify the American Government.

People need to bone up on thier history. <pun intended]

Bill was spot lighted due to sexual harrassment of an intern, then impeach for lying under oath.

He still got to serve out his term.

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

Obstruction of justice is a very serious crime, and Bill was disbarred for committing that and other crimes against American citizens.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Which constituted a high crime or misdemenor in what way? Was it worth it? Putting pressure on a President that was involved in rebuilding America's economy? Hunting for Osama Bin Laden? Seriously?

It also degraded what impeachment should actually be used for...and that would be removing a President that could be injurious to the Nation.

In fact..it turned the whole procedure into a farce. Which is the point.

Radical conservatives are seeking to nullify the American Government.

People need to bone up on thier history. <pun intended]

Bill was spot lighted due to sexual harrassment of an intern, then impeach for lying under oath.

He still got to serve out his term.

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

I think every male executive should be able to use female interns for sexual release

 

[Robert]

Oh crap.

Bad on me to show historical conservative hypocrisy on display.

But then again you guys like to do the "one off thing" only to be used because it's an emergency and should never be used again..because if someone else does it..it's just plain wrong.

Is that a fact seems to me they were the ones pointing out the Hypocrisy of the left how else to do we view the Left screaming bloody murder about what ever grievance is convenient today only to turn around and quite proudly say WELL THEY DID IT so it ok for us to do it.

Not unlike all the screaming about the previous administration and the involvement in the ME so today the Left proudly claims the right to attack any nation it wants under the pretext that well they did it so can we.

Libya is being run by man who not only supports world wide terrorism but has actively plotted and succeeded in killing Americans. GW Bush's acceptance of blood money not with standing, the rest of the world sees Libya as a blight..and agreed that Gaddafi should not be allowed to slaughter his own people. Even the Arab league, China and Russia signed on to that notion. But heck..if conservatives are so willing to support a known terrorist, a tyrant and an all around bad guy..have at it. They should do for the first time, what no other congress in the history of America has done..deny a president a war. Of course you guys would fall back on that ol "emergency situation, never to be repeated again" crap..but I would applaud it. Not because it is the right thing to do..but because somewhere down the line another President is going to do an Iraq or Vietnam again. And that time..congress can do that right thing.

Yes and again we watch Hypocrisy on display by the extremist on the left who screamed bloody murder when Reagan retaliated against Libya now all of the sudden because you have a failure in the white House its OK for him to attack a sovereign nation for no other reason then he wanted to.

Yes folks could the hypocrisy be any more evident hey why not talk Obama into Nuking japan again because A. they attacked us a very long time ago and B. someone in the past did it to so Obama should be able to do the same thing

 

[Sallow]

People need to bone up on thier history. <pun intended]

Bill was spot lighted due to sexual harrassment of an intern, then impeach for lying under oath.

He still got to serve out his term.

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

I think every male executive should be able to use female interns for sexual release

You might be on to something there.

And here's a hint. In the private world of business..this goes on far more then you would imagine.

 

[Stephanie]

Which constituted a high crime or misdemenor in what way? Was it worth it? Putting pressure on a President that was involved in rebuilding America's economy? Hunting for Osama Bin Laden? Seriously?

It also degraded what impeachment should actually be used for...and that would be removing a President that could be injurious to the Nation.

In fact..it turned the whole procedure into a farce. Which is the point.

Radical conservatives are seeking to nullify the American Government.

People need to bone up on thier history. <pun intended]

Bill was spot lighted due to sexual harrassment of an intern, then impeach for lying under oath.

He still got to serve out his term.

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

omg, are you friggen serious?

 

[Robert]

Except he didn't lie under oath or commit perjury. Which is why he wasn't removed from office.

I think every male executive should be able to use female interns for sexual release

You might be on to something there.

And here's a hint. In the private world of business..this goes on far more then you would imagine.

In the private world of business

vs an elected Public servant living in this Nation's White House...and you don't see a problem with this?

 

[Sallow]

Is that a fact seems to me they were the ones pointing out the Hypocrisy of the left how else to do we view the Left screaming bloody murder about what ever grievance is convenient today only to turn around and quite proudly say WELL THEY DID IT so it ok for us to do it.

Not unlike all the screaming about the previous administration and the involvement in the ME so today the Left proudly claims the right to attack any nation it wants under the pretext that well they did it so can we.

Libya is being run by man who not only supports world wide terrorism but has actively plotted and succeeded in killing Americans. GW Bush's acceptance of blood money not with standing, the rest of the world sees Libya as a blight..and agreed that Gaddafi should not be allowed to slaughter his own people. Even the Arab league, China and Russia signed on to that notion. But heck..if conservatives are so willing to support a known terrorist, a tyrant and an all around bad guy..have at it. They should do for the first time, what no other congress in the history of America has done..deny a president a war. Of course you guys would fall back on that ol "emergency situation, never to be repeated again" crap..but I would applaud it. Not because it is the right thing to do..but because somewhere down the line another President is going to do an Iraq or Vietnam again. And that time..congress can do that right thing.

Yes and again we watch Hypocrisy on display by the extremist on the left who screamed bloody murder when Reagan retaliated against Libya now all of the sudden because you have a failure in the white House its OK for him to attack a sovereign nation for no other reason then he wanted to.

Yes folks could the hypocrisy be any more evident hey why not talk Obama into Nuking japan again because A. they attacked us a very long time ago and B. someone in the past did it to so Obama should be able to do the same thing

What????

Japan lost a war and completely capitulated after their initial attack on Pearl Harbor.

Geez..

 

[freedombecki]

<snipped of the rest of the (scatological insult omitted)>

This is the type of kitchen sink (2nd scatological reference omitted) you guys are getting behind?

Cheers.

I beg your pardon, sir. If your attitude is to pick an irrelevant fight, ignore the problem, sit on your hands and perfume the air with scatological verbiage, we can get rid of Obama quickly and clinically through constitutional means. I was simply inquiring to see if there was a reasonable man underneath the mask. You answered obtusely, but I take it as an answer.

You're thinking I want to get rid of President Obama. I don't. Especially when conservatives have nuts like Bachmann or Perry in the queue.

I have a panacea to your spin and wash machine, Sallow. It rewrites the true meaning of the spew that is intended to jive other people. Your statement would be something like this: "Oh, did I say something that would convince you to seek riddance of a president who surrounds himself with card-carrying communists who hate America and solicit power by running all over the same constitution that calls for an orderly process in government with such salient issues as the legislative branch and not the executive branch to fund projects the people's legislature has called for? Well, let's take some examples of the opposition party whom we aim to slime and who also have nothing to do with the point at hand, which prevents me from having to concede that my president's behavior lately sucks because it is totally, wholly, and thoroughly unconstitutional and seeks to restore the dictatorship America suffered as colonies under King George of taxation and impairment of people's wages to serve the dictator in chief who cannot live within such burdensome confines of civil behavior under the constitution."

/unspin

rof&l Sallow. Nice try, but you lose. We the people are not gonna roll over and play dead while your personally promoted gaffemongering president gloats over his schemes to expropriate power from congress.

 

[peace2011]

Peace, could you answer with a salient statement?

United States of Pornography.

 

[Robert]

Libya is being run by man who not only supports world wide terrorism but has actively plotted and succeeded in killing Americans. GW Bush's acceptance of blood money not with standing, the rest of the world sees Libya as a blight..and agreed that Gaddafi should not be allowed to slaughter his own people. Even the Arab league, China and Russia signed on to that notion. But heck..if conservatives are so willing to support a known terrorist, a tyrant and an all around bad guy..have at it. They should do for the first time, what no other congress in the history of America has done..deny a president a war. Of course you guys would fall back on that ol "emergency situation, never to be repeated again" crap..but I would applaud it. Not because it is the right thing to do..but because somewhere down the line another President is going to do an Iraq or Vietnam again. And that time..congress can do that right thing.

Yes and again we watch Hypocrisy on display by the extremist on the left who screamed bloody murder when Reagan retaliated against Libya now all of the sudden because you have a failure in the white House its OK for him to attack a sovereign nation for no other reason then he wanted to.

Yes folks could the hypocrisy be any more evident hey why not talk Obama into Nuking japan again because A. they attacked us a very long time ago and B. someone in the past did it to so Obama should be able to do the same thing

What????

Japan lost a war and completely capitulated after their initial attack on Pearl Harbor.

Geez..

As did Libya did you forget that or do you think nobody see that?

 

[peace2011]

Offtopic.com

If August comes without any deal the debt ceiling, the Treasury will state it doesn't have the revenue to pay our obligations, we have 3 basic choices

1) Default on all our debt

The Treasury believes this is the only option, as they can not pick and choose which programs to fund, nor do they have the people necessary to dole out selective payments

Even Fox News has said this will cause a world-wide depression

2) Default on some of our debt

President Obama could take control of the entire federal revenue, and spend it on the programs he fancies, such as keeping Medicaid, Welfare Programs and Debt Interest payments, but ending Defense Contractors and most of the military

This would be a huge grab of executive power, and Obama could basically do whatever he wants

3) Default on none of our debt

Since this decision would come to the President when the Treasury asks him what they should do, he could decline a large executive power grab or a total default, and then use his presidential power to follow the constitution, which states:

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned

The Courts have ruled that this provisions applies to all federal debt and obligations

So he would inform the Treasury that the United States will not default on its debts and that they need to pay everything in the last budget passed by the Congress

A Congressman has said if he picks 3, he'll be impeached, would you support impeachment, and convict?

 

[Sallow]

vs an elected Public servant living in this Nation's White House...and you don't see a problem with this?

People having sex isn't something I generally have a problem with..and if you think President Clinton was some sort of outlier..then maybe I can enlighten you a bit.

People in leadership roles generally get there because they are ambitious and have big appetites. And we are doing something very dangerous in this country. Weeding out leaders. Clinton was not the first President to have an affair..and probably not the last..unless the religious right gets it's way.

 

[Sallow]

Yes and again we watch Hypocrisy on display by the extremist on the left who screamed bloody murder when Reagan retaliated against Libya now all of the sudden because you have a failure in the white House its OK for him to attack a sovereign nation for no other reason then he wanted to.

Yes folks could the hypocrisy be any more evident hey why not talk Obama into Nuking japan again because A. they attacked us a very long time ago and B. someone in the past did it to so Obama should be able to do the same thing

What????

Japan lost a war and completely capitulated after their initial attack on Pearl Harbor.

Geez..

As did Libya did you forget that or do you think nobody see that?

What war did Libya lose?

 

[freedombecki]

Peace, could you answer with a salient statement?

United States of Pornography.

Thank you for putting it in a nutshell. I think starting a thread on pornography in America would be a good idea for you to do if that is your passion.

Here, we are trying to settle the issue of a President who some Congressmen think is overstepping his powers into their constitutional requirement. Your input would help if it relates to such an issue.

We welcome newcomers to add threads when they have a good idea.

Have to get back to the topic at hand, though. It's about a President who is out of control in his desire to micromanage Congress. It's simply not his job.

 

[ogibillm]

in all your eagerness to impeach the president and call him an evil, constitution hating person did any of you conservative fucktards bother to come up with a source that said such a move was being considered?

fuck people, you've invented a hypothetical situation, attributed the origin of that situation to the president, and now you want to demonize him for your hypothetical.

grow. the. fuck. up.

 

[Robert]

vs an elected Public servant living in this Nation's White House...and you don't see a problem with this?

People having sex isn't something I generally have a problem with..and if you think President Clinton was some sort of outlier..then maybe I can enlighten you a bit.

People in leadership roles generally get there because they are ambitious and have big appetites. And we are doing something very dangerous in this country. Weeding out leaders. Clinton was not the first President to have an affair..and probably not the last..unless the religious right gets it's way.

I have a problem with him disgracing himself with an Intern which is illegal for any number of reasons in addition to him partaking of these illegal action in our Nation White House. Clinton had many affairs including at least one reported rape the last straw was porking a fat intern in the oval office.

I find it amazing that anyone could or would think that these elected individuals who btw represent all of us should be allowed to to break what ever law they want