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Because that's what Obama is doing and that is what is supposedly an attack and in violation.
Look, are you guys honestly trying to say that if you work for a religious organization that you must follow all their tenets, even in your private life, and that this is protected by the First Amendment?
Because if so, you have a seriously fucked up view of the First Amendment.
You are the one with a seriously fucked up view of the 1st Amendment. Catholics are not telling people who work for them they cannot use birth control or get abortions, they are telling them that they, as a church, will not pay for it, and Obama is telling them that they have to.
If they work for the Church and they buy contraceptives out of their paycheck, or out of their insurance benefit,
the Church paid for it either way. Because the Church is paying them for their work.
rdean starts a thread & the wing-nuts, predictably, come a runnin' just like Pavlov's dogs
Its just another attack against religion. Liberal attempts to make it narrow in scope isn't playing well with other religions. The message is clear. The response is coming soon.
People use contraception to limit the size of their families to what they can financially support. They space out the children so the mother can recover between children and so they don't have a lot of babies they can't support all at one time. For many women, contraceptives are also used for health reasons.
The vast majority of women take contraceptives including nearly every women of child bearing age including married women.
Republicans are trying to pick a fight against contraception.
All I can say is "bring it on". It's a fight Democrats welcome.
Its just another attack against religion. Liberal attempts to make it narrow in scope isn't playing well with other religions. The message is clear. The response is coming soon.
People use contraception to limit the size of their families to what they can financially support. They space out the children so the mother can recover between children and so they don't have a lot of babies they can't support all at one time. For many women, contraceptives are also used for health reasons.
The vast majority of women take contraceptives including nearly every women of child bearing age including married women.
Republicans are trying to pick a fight against contraception.
All I can say is "bring it on". It's a fight Democrats welcome.
Women--including the overwhelming majority of conservative pro-life women & Catholic women--have been taking contraceptives for DECADES??? Well maybe Rick Santorum would be--but not the others.
Liberals state that they are fighting for women's "access" to contraceptives. In the same breath they state the 98% of Catholics already use contraceptives. Clearly, there is no "access" issue. It's laughable...
Dean thinks this is just about contraception rather than infringement on Liberty from a POTUS that has been caught overstepping his Constitutional authority.
Bring it on indeed. WE will put into focus the real issue, not made up yaksqueeze from a pinhead racist bigot that gets it wrong 100% of the time.
Dean thinks this is just about contraception rather than infringement on Liberty from a POTUS that has been caught overstepping his Constitutional authority.
Bring it on indeed. WE will put into focus the real issue, not made up yaksqueeze from a pinhead racist bigot that gets it wrong 100% of the time.
The War On Contraception:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/208034-the-virginia-house-passes-personhood-bill.html
Liberals state that they are fighting for women's "access" to contraceptives. In the same breath they state the 98% of Catholics already use contraceptives. Clearly, there is no "access" issue. It's laughable...
The public cost of unintended pregnancy is estimated to be about 11 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] This includes costs of births, one year of infant medical care and costs of fetal loss.[11] Preventing unintended pregnancy would save the public over 5 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] Savings in long term costs and in other areas would be much larger.[11] By another estimate, the direct medical costs of unintended pregnancies, not including infant medical care, was $5 billion in 2002.[27]
[edit] TeensSee also: Adolescent sexuality in the United States
Of the 800,000 teen pregnancies per year,[28] over 80% were unintended in 2001.[1] One-third of teen pregnancies result in abortion.[28] In 2002, about 9% of women at risk for unintended pregnancy were teenagers,[20] but about 20% of the unintended pregnancies in the United States are to teenagers.[29] A somewhat larger proportion of unintended births are reported as mistimed, rather than unwanted, for teens compared to women in general (79% mistimed for teens vs. 69% among all women in 1998).[30]
[edit] PreventionIn the US it is estimated that 52% of unintended pregnancies result from couples not using contraception in the month the woman got pregnant, and 43% result from inconsistent or incorrect contraceptive use; only 5% result from contraceptive failure, according to a report from the Guttmacher Institute.[1] Contraceptive use saved an estimated $19 billion in direct medical costs from unintended pregnancies in 2002.[27]
In 2006, publicly funded family planning services (Title X, medicaid, and state funds) helped women avoid 1.94 million unintended pregnancies, thus preventing about 860,000 unintended births and 810,000 abortions.[31] Without publicly funded family planning services, the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions in the United States would be nearly two-thirds higher among women overall and among teens; the number of unintended pregnancies among poor women would nearly double[31] The services provided at publicly funded clinics saved the federal and state governments an estimated $5.1 billion in 2008 in short term medical costs.[31] Nationally, every $1.00 invested in helping women avoid unintended pregnancy saved $3.74 in Medicaid expenditures that otherwise would have been needed.[31]
Unintended pregnancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Would you like Me to explain how to tie the bow on your shoe strings too?It is not a fight about contraception. It is a fight about government violation of the First Amendment.
WOW!! What?
I would LOVE to hear this explained!
Thats nice.Liberals state that they are fighting for women's "access" to contraceptives. In the same breath they state the 98% of Catholics already use contraceptives. Clearly, there is no "access" issue. It's laughable...
The public cost of unintended pregnancy is estimated to be about 11 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] This includes costs of births, one year of infant medical care and costs of fetal loss.[11] Preventing unintended pregnancy would save the public over 5 billion dollars per year in short term medical costs.[11] Savings in long term costs and in other areas would be much larger.[11] By another estimate, the direct medical costs of unintended pregnancies, not including infant medical care, was $5 billion in 2002.[27]
[edit] TeensSee also: Adolescent sexuality in the United States
Of the 800,000 teen pregnancies per year,[28] over 80% were unintended in 2001.[1] One-third of teen pregnancies result in abortion.[28] In 2002, about 9% of women at risk for unintended pregnancy were teenagers,[20] but about 20% of the unintended pregnancies in the United States are to teenagers.[29] A somewhat larger proportion of unintended births are reported as mistimed, rather than unwanted, for teens compared to women in general (79% mistimed for teens vs. 69% among all women in 1998).[30]
[edit] PreventionIn the US it is estimated that 52% of unintended pregnancies result from couples not using contraception in the month the woman got pregnant, and 43% result from inconsistent or incorrect contraceptive use; only 5% result from contraceptive failure, according to a report from the Guttmacher Institute.[1] Contraceptive use saved an estimated $19 billion in direct medical costs from unintended pregnancies in 2002.[27]
In 2006, publicly funded family planning services (Title X, medicaid, and state funds) helped women avoid 1.94 million unintended pregnancies, thus preventing about 860,000 unintended births and 810,000 abortions.[31] Without publicly funded family planning services, the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions in the United States would be nearly two-thirds higher among women overall and among teens; the number of unintended pregnancies among poor women would nearly double[31] The services provided at publicly funded clinics saved the federal and state governments an estimated $5.1 billion in 2008 in short term medical costs.[31] Nationally, every $1.00 invested in helping women avoid unintended pregnancy saved $3.74 in Medicaid expenditures that otherwise would have been needed.[31]
Unintended pregnancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oooh, nice one. To bad you didn't actually read it, what it requires is any employer that supplies prescription drug coverage to cover contraceptives. This is saying that, if they provide a service, they cannot discriminate, so they elected not to supply the service. There employees were, however, free to get the coverage themselves with their own money, not the church's.
Next.
Suitable for framing.
rdean used to get me all fired up...
I just laugh at his posts now...
He's pretty funny.
It is not a fight about contraception. It is a fight about government violation of the First Amendment.
WOW!! What?
I would LOVE to hear this explained!
Obama decided to force churches to pay for something which is against their religion. Don't be stupid.
