CDZ We Used to Believe Our Leaders Were Not Personally Corrupt

[jwoodie]

Now we don't seem to care. What happened? Were we always just a glorified banana republic? If not, when and why did this occur? Are our standards any higher than those of other countries? Do we have any right to judge them? What do you think?

 

[Josf]

Infiltration into the ranks of the defenders who risk all to help defend all from harm is not new. The infiltrators disguise themselves as the good guys, yet their actions prove that they are in fact the most evil people ever to disgrace the human gene pool.

A number of people serve to illustrate this point.

1. George Washington
a.

b.
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard171.html
c.
George Washington s Take On The Constitution

That is the tip of the iceberg on Mr. Washington

2. Alexander Hamilton
Reclaiming the American Revolution The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy William Watkins 9781403963031 Amazon.com Books
"But Hamilton wanted to go farther than debt assumption. He believed a funded national debt would assist in establishing public credit. By funding national debt, Hamilton envisioned the Congress setting aside a portion of tax revenues to pay each year's interest without an annual appropriation. Redemption of the principal would be left to the government's discretion. At the time Hamilton gave his Report on Public Credit, the national debt was $80 million. Though such a large figure shocked many Republicans who saw debt as a menace to be avoided, Hamilton perceived debt's benefits. "In countries in which the national debt is properly funded, and the object of established confidence," explained Hamilton, "it assumes most of the purposes of money." Federal stock would be issued in exchange for state and national debt certificates, with interest on the stock running about 4.5 percent. To Republicans the debt proposals were heresy. The farmers and planters of the South, who were predominantly Republican, owed enormous sums to British creditors and thus had firsthand knowledge of the misery wrought by debt. Debt, as Hamilton himself noted, must be paid or credit is ruined. High levels of taxation, Republicans prognosticated, would be necessary just to pay the interest on the perpetual debt. Believing that this tax burden would fall on the yeoman farmers and eventually rise to European levels, Republicans opposed Hamilton's debt program.
"To help pay the interest on the debt, Hamilton convinced the Congress to pass an excise on whiskey. In Federalist N. 12, Hamilton noted that because "[t]he genius of the people will ill brook the inquisitive and peremptory spirit of excise law," such taxes would be little used by the national government. In power, the Secretary of the Treasury soon changed his mind and the tax on the production of whiskey rankled Americans living on the frontier. Cash was scarce in the West and the Frontiersmen used whiskey as an item of barter."

Lie, lie more, lie even more, during the process of gaining power, and then once in power the criminal enslaves everyone into wars of aggression for the purpose of enslaving everyone through a combination of extortion hidden behind a false value added tax, which then creates the demand for a fraudulent money monopoly central banking scheme, and conspire with the slave traders to ensure a future Civil War, all under the color of law, the false claim of authority to defend the people from harm.

Does that sound at all familiar to anyone?

No?

How about fast forward to these bits of incuplatory evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt to anyone caring to actually defend the innocent with true examples of rule of law:

a. The rise of communism paid for by guess who:
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

b. The rise of fascism paid for by the same mysterious source of power (American "tax" payers):
WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER by Antony C. Sutton

c. The rise of the American version of criminal socialism - financed by the one and only:
WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER by Antony C. Sutton

Did any of those criminals above manage to be held to account for their crimes against humanity in any way shape or form, or did they receive emoluments that would make an Egyptian King blush for their contribution to society?

What is trial by ordeal?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Washington is a cesspool and getting worse everyday.

 

[pismoe]

pretty much since 'clintoons' and after that , includes the bushs and especially now with mrobama imo

 

[prison/con.net]

It goes all the way back to washington, man. Almost all of them were (and are) scumbags of the worst sort.

 

[pismoe]

maybe but things were running pretty smooth for my parents lifetime in the USA . Same for me but I became aware of corruption in 'clintons' time and more aware as time went by to 2015 when I see corruption everywhere I look .

 

[Montrovant]

If there seemed to be less corruption in the past, I imagine it is only because information was less easily disseminated. I have certainly read about many various instances of corruption in US government throughout our history, including but not limited to vote buying, intimidation, and basic bribery.

I've never quite understood the belief that some people seem to have that government, whether US or any other, was not corrupt in the past; that the greed and graft of politicians is some sort of recent invention. I'm not claiming any sort of expertise, but with a layman's view of political history, it has always appeared to have its fill of corruption.

 

[Brian Nott]

Now we don't seem to care. What happened? Were we always just a glorified banana republic? If not, when and why did this occur? Are our standards any higher than those of other countries? Do we have any right to judge them? What do you think?

I think everyone can judge a neighbor and really does it at least mentally but i think we shouldn't do it because nobody knows really who is right and who is wrong i.e. who is better and who is worse besides when you start thinking you are the best you are really going to find out soon that it's not the case any more.

 

[Asclepias]

Now we don't seem to care. What happened? Were we always just a glorified banana republic? If not, when and why did this occur? Are our standards any higher than those of other countries? Do we have any right to judge them? What do you think?

I learned from an early age not to trust politicians or white people. Before people got caught doing crooked stuff they did plenty of it and Americans blissfully lived their lives totally unaware. Not much has changed because people simply dont want to believe and are led about by the nose like sheep. No we dont have the right to judge as its a given you arent perfect. However you can make wiser decisions like praising the deed instead of the person.