CDZ We only need one gun law

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    This is the problem, I thought y’all wanted to fix the problem, stop being scared to punish someone harshly, we wouldn’t have to punish many and they might get the point.


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    We lock up 2 million people and we are one of the last countries to still have a death penalty.

    If punishment deterred crime, we'd have the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, not the highest.
     
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    So reducing the number of federal prisoners by HALF won't reduce the federal prison population?
    Reducing the number of state prisoners by 16% won't reduce the state prison population?

    And you conveniently ignore the part where I said NONVIOLENT offenders and you concentrate solely on drug offenders

    And all that leaves more room to put violent pieces of shit in jail for a long time
     
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    How much does it cost to keep a violent gun crime offender in jail for 1 year?
    Hanging is pretty much just the cost of the rope.
     
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    Prison is not really punishment to some violent criminals. Food, entertainment, sex. Etc. Death is punishment that definitely deters crime.
     
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    Well murder deserves a good lynching. But the violent rapist is going to get a lifetime of violent rape in prison anyway. :biggrin:
     
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    Not enough to make a difference. We lock up too many people already.

    And we have the worst crime stats in the world.
     
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    Yeah, here's the thing. My state had to stop executing people because they were exonerating more people than they were executing. That's how broken that system was.
     
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    Love how you avoid questions

    So I'll ask again,

    Why did you only use drug sentences and not all NONVIOLENT sentences ?
     
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    Because we really don't lock up that many people for non-violent offenses that don't involve drugs.

    and if you don't have at least some criminal penalties, people will be committing all sorts of non-violent offenses. What would deter them?

    So, um, no, we need serious criminal justice reform, but locking up Group A because they offend you mo re than Group B isn't the answer.
     

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