We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years

[Avorysuds]

We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years

So how badly has this actually hurt the job market? The Hamilton folks estimate that, if the share of government workers was back to 2007 levels, we'd have about 1.7 million more jobs than we do today. Now, did we have the balance right before the recession? That's for a much longer conversation. But it's certainly food for thought.

This is quite an interesting fact. Lowest rate in 45 years, and the right is still claiming that Obama is growing government.

Including federal and then add state and local, which we know is low because of local taxes dropping.

Federal is up, so sorry, no credit for Obama.

Wait, that chart includes state Government?

 

[Oddball]

Name one significant bureaucracy/law/rule/regulation/EO/signing statement of Chimpola that Bioking has trashed completely.

just one.

C'mon....Dazzle us with your professed love for smaller gubmint...Bring it.

Total irrelevant to the fact presented in the OP article. I'd have thought that a conservative would be happy with this fact.

You're using very select "facts" to prove your point.

Name the significant cut to any federal program, bureaucracy, etcetera....Just one.

Well....We're waiting.....

 

[g5000]

We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years



This is quite an interesting fact. Lowest rate in 45 years, and the right is still claiming that Obama is growing government.

Including federal and then add state and local, which we know is low because of local taxes dropping.

Federal is up, so sorry, no credit for Obama.

Wait, that chart includes state Government?

Federal, state, and local.

 

[Avorysuds]

Including federal and then add state and local, which we know is low because of local taxes dropping.

Federal is up, so sorry, no credit for Obama.

Wait, that chart includes state Government?

Federal, state, and local.

lol. And the OP thinks we should go out and hire more people on a state and local level... How many towns either have or are close to bankrupted? Shit look at Cali's 16 billion dollar deficit.

 

[Black_Label]

None of the right wing shitheads can. Fox tells them Obama has given us the biggest government in history from his marxist/communist/socialist policies. They don't care about the truth, only about what they want to hear.

Name one significant bureaucracy/law/rule/regulation/EO/signing statement of Chimpola that Bioking has trashed completely.

just one.

C'mon....Dazzle us with your professed love for smaller gubmint...Bring it.

"Chimpola that bioking"?

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

 

[ShackledNation]

Number of bureaucrats relative to total population =/= size of government, in the sense most people mean. You are equivocating.

 

[Oddball]

Name one significant bureaucracy/law/rule/regulation/EO/signing statement of Chimpola that Bioking has trashed completely.

just one.

C'mon....Dazzle us with your professed love for smaller gubmint...Bring it.

"Chimpola that bioking"?

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

Um..I was referring to babby Bush.

Now, start naming the programs and policies of his predicessor that Obammy has rolled back.

DHS?...TSA?...USAPATRIOT Act?...Foreign aid giveaways?...Bailouts?...Subsidies?...Endless unemployment handouts?...

C'mon...Start rattling them off....

 

[Avorysuds]

"Chimpola that bioking"?

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

Um..I was referring to babby Bush.

Now, start naming the programs and policies of his predicessor that Obammy has rolled back.

DHS?...TSA?...USAPATRIOT Act?...Foreign aid giveaways?...Bailouts?...Subsidies?...Endless unemployment handouts?...

C'mon...Start rattling them off....

Black_Labe is like "DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!" he was so hoping to play that race card!

 

[Dick Tuck]

I have a better idea for the OP then... If Government is the size it was 45 years ago, lets cut spending to what it was 45 years ago.

Deal?

Shouldn't we also go back to the tax structure of 45 years ago, so we might better look at deficits? Do you also want to screw the boomers who've been paying for a surplus in SS Trust? Do you want your spending cut based on % of GDP or inflation adjusted dollars?

 

[buckeye45_73]

So Dick, are you proud of this "small" government, that's the way you want to go?

 

[Black_Label]

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

Um..I was referring to babby Bush.

Now, start naming the programs and policies of his predicessor that Obammy has rolled back.

DHS?...TSA?...USAPATRIOT Act?...Foreign aid giveaways?...Bailouts?...Subsidies?...Endless unemployment handouts?...

C'mon...Start rattling them off....

Black_Labe is like "DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!" he was so hoping to play that race card!

I was like "DAAAAAAAAAAMN" oddball calling W a chimp, maybe he has an ounce of sense

Otherwise DHS = huge government GOP legislation

NDAA = huge government that the GOP/teabaggers almost unanimously supported, the democrats strongly against

The patriot act, the same as above, = the GOP/teabaggers almost unanimously supported it, the democrats strongly against.

Here's one to make right wing heads explode

 

[g5000]

"Chimpola that bioking"?

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

Um..I was referring to babby Bush.

Now, start naming the programs and policies of his predicessor that Obammy has rolled back.

DHS?...TSA?...USAPATRIOT Act?...Foreign aid giveaways?...Bailouts?...Subsidies?...Endless unemployment handouts?...

C'mon...Start rattling them off....

I can give you one program that Bush started that Obama ended. Easy peasy.

Gunwalking.

BWA-HA-HA!

 

[Oddball]

Sounds like Oddball is using a racial slur to call the president a "chimpola" Typical of the radical right,...

Um..I was referring to babby Bush.

Now, start naming the programs and policies of his predicessor that Obammy has rolled back.

DHS?...TSA?...USAPATRIOT Act?...Foreign aid giveaways?...Bailouts?...Subsidies?...Endless unemployment handouts?...

C'mon...Start rattling them off....

I can give you one program that Bush started that Obama ended. Easy peasy.

Gunwalking.

BWA-HA-HA!

Actually, Chimpola ended that program before he left office...But a weak attempt is better than none at all..

 

[GoneBezerk]

You're so fucking stupid, just cut off your little dick.

do they have a graph showing govt workers/ blue eyed people?

because that would be almost as meaningful

In what way?

 

[skookerasbil]

Total irrelevant to the fact presented in the OP article. I'd have thought that a conservative would be happy with this fact.

You're using very select "facts" to prove your point.

Name the significant cut to any federal program, bureaucracy, etcetera....Just one.

Well....We're waiting.....

LMAO........Oddball bro.........these cheesedicks have the political IQ of handballs.

 

[skookerasbil]

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Democratic Voting Enthusiasm Down Sharply From 2004, 2008

 

[Dick Tuck]

Name one significant bureaucracy/law/rule/regulation/EO/signing statement of Chimpola that Bioking has trashed completely.

just one.

C'mon....Dazzle us with your professed love for smaller gubmint...Bring it.

Total irrelevant to the fact presented in the OP article. I'd have thought that a conservative would be happy with this fact.

I don’t think you guys understand what bloated big Government means… You seem to think it means how many people are employed, when it means how much it spends.

More or less you presented a straw man.

"Bloated" is an opinion. The facts still show that it's the smallest, per capita, than its been at any point in the last 45 years. The facts show that Obama has decreased the size of the federal employees over the past 3.5 years. The facts show that even with TARP II and Stimulus, discretionary spending is flat. Non discretionary spending, OTOH, is pretty much going to where expected. After all, didn't Reagan increase SS payroll and FICA to produce a surplus to pay for the boomer retirement? Hell, most of us boomers paid those additional taxes for 26 years, including the working poor.

 

[Dick Tuck]

We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years

So how badly has this actually hurt the job market? The Hamilton folks estimate that, if the share of government workers was back to 2007 levels, we'd have about 1.7 million more jobs than we do today. Now, did we have the balance right before the recession? That's for a much longer conversation. But it's certainly food for thought.

This is quite an interesting fact. Lowest rate in 45 years, and the right is still claiming that Obama is growing government.

Ok, so you're telling me you like small government? Is that what I'm hearing?

I like efficient government. I loved Gore's Reinvention work. He did wonders with the Social Security Administration. But my opinion doesn't matter. The facts the OP article presented does.

 

[Dick Tuck]

We Now Have Our Smallest Government in 45 Years



This is quite an interesting fact. Lowest rate in 45 years, and the right is still claiming that Obama is growing government.

Ok, so you're telling me you like small government? Is that what I'm hearing?

It’s another Obama-bot pointing out where Obama does something they hate so if they smash it in your face that “Obama shrank Government” then it’s a “win” for them somehow. I’d credit Obama for “shrinking Government,” in this case by payroll, but he managed to vastly outspend Bush in the process. Either Obama is fucking retarded, the unions fucked us, or that a critical thinking person can conclude that “Shrinking Government” is usually identified with “cutting spending for a basic reason… That reason of course to be specific about what “Small Government” actually means.

For instance, the stimulus was considered “Big Government Spending.” How is that possible when they didn’t have to hire 400,000,000 people and add them to Government payroll? Because Spending is what determines the size of Government.

 

[Oddball]

Oooo...Pretty three-color charts and graphs!

whoop-de-do.