We must restore constitutional government

[Billy_Kinetta]

No kid would come to that conclusion on their own. It must first be suggested to them, and reinforced.

Really?

You really think that no kid decides to be trans or gay until someone suggests it to them?

You did not mention gay, and neither did I. Touch not the goalposts.

 

[Dragonlady]

The people tasked with enforcing our laws are the same people violating our most important laws....

Beyond the controversial ways stingray technology works, the secrecy and deception law enforcement agencies use to cloak their use of the devices is also troubling. Law enforcement agencies around the country have routinely used the devices without obtaining a warrant from judges. In cases where they did obtain a warrant, they often deceived judges about the nature of the technology they planned to use. Instead of telling judges that they intended to use a stingray or cell site simulator, they have often mischaracterized the technology, describing it as a pen register device instead.

Hacker Lexicon: Stingrays, the Spy Tool the Government Tried, and Failed, to Hide

Which is it - we must put the anti-democratic authoritarians, a.k.a. Republicans, into office, or your must restore Constitutional government, because you can't do both. Republicans sent unmarked military units to Portland to pick up protestors off the street, and take them to an undisclosed location, so a Party which would do that, is not working under the Constitution, and that's before Trump tried a coup.

You cannot start a thread about preserving the Constitution without mentioned the unConstitutional behaviour of Donald Trump and Republican Party around the 2020 election.

 

[Markle]

Actually, no. Republicans shouldn't be in charge because they are fucking incompetent... They never make the government any smaller... in fact, they grow government at about the same rate as Democrats do.

The problem wasn't that Trump was in charge, it was that Trump handled everything BADLY. resulting in 500,000 dead, 65 million jobs lost, riots in the streets, a wrecked economy.

If you guys were really for "small government", you wouldn't be trying to ban abortion, roll back voting rights or dismantle unions.

When a crisis hit, Trump went full Keynesian, pumping the economy full of money, because that's what you do.

Are you acting ignorant, or are you really that ignorant about this issue?

As you know, as a result of Communist China unleashing a deadly virus on the world. As a result, tens of millions of people were thrown out of work and millions of businesses had to close through no fault of their own.

President Trump acted quickly and decisively by closing flights to and from the area where the virus originated. He put in place a plan to do the impossible, create a vaccine in far less than the typical 2-10 years typically required. He did that by cutting red tape, not shortcutting safety procedures. Another reason it was available so quickly is that companies with a solid vaccine were able to begin manufacturing the vaccine for distribution. When the vaccines were proven effective, safe, and approved by the FDA, they had millions of doses ready to ship that day.

You may hate President Trump but you cannot deny his effectiveness. If you do, you're lying to yourself and intentionally being a fool. But hey, whatever floats your boat! Right?

 

[Dragonlady]

Actually, no. Republicans shouldn't be in charge because they are fucking incompetent... They never make the government any smaller... in fact, they grow government at about the same rate as Democrats do.

The problem wasn't that Trump was in charge, it was that Trump handled everything BADLY. resulting in 500,000 dead, 65 million jobs lost, riots in the streets, a wrecked economy.

If you guys were really for "small government", you wouldn't be trying to ban abortion, roll back voting rights or dismantle unions.

When a crisis hit, Trump went full Keynesian, pumping the economy full of money, because that's what you do.

Are you acting ignorant, or are you really that ignorant about this issue?

As you know, as a result of Communist China unleashing a deadly virus on the world. As a result, tens of millions of people were thrown out of work and millions of businesses had to close through no fault of their own.

President Trump acted quickly and decisively by closing flights to and from the area where the virus originated. He put in place a plan to do the impossible, create a vaccine in far less than the typical 2-10 years typically required. He did that by cutting red tape, not shortcutting safety procedures. Another reason it was available so quickly is that companies with a solid vaccine were able to begin manufacturing the vaccine for distribution. When the vaccines were proven effective, safe, and approved by the FDA, they had millions of doses ready to ship that day.

You may hate President Trump but you cannot deny his effectiveness. If you do, you're lying to yourself and intentionally being a fool. But hey, whatever floats your boat! Right?

Given that you have the highest rate of death and disease in the world, I certainly can deny that Trump has been effective in dealing with the virus.

In fact, I think that Donald Trump should be charged with negligent homicide with regard to the rate of deaths in the United States of America. He could not have done a worse job if he had been trying to kill the most number of people in the world.

The constant scapegoating of the Chinese for the failure of Trump’s virus response is beyond ridiculous. You’re still blaming the Chinese for the deaths when no other first world country in the world has anything approaching the level of disease and death that you do?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[P@triot]

So let's review your bit of crazy. A teacher suspects a child might be trans.. The teacher didn't make the kid trans, the kid came to that conclusion all on his own...

So, um, yeah, being someone a kid can trust when they can't trust their parents... um, that would be a good thing.

Who decides what equals "trust"? You keep creating a false narrative. The argument is if a fucking government employee has the right to help a child make a life-altering decision while hiding that decision from the parents (the answer of course is hell no, no matter how much children transitioning turns you on).

You backed yourself into a corner and now you sound like a lunatic.

 

[P@triot]

Georgia expanded voter rights (even left-wing propaganda machine CBS had to admit that much)

Wow, man, that's fucking Orwellian. How is keeping people from voting expanding voting rights.

1. You love Orwellian. You live for Orwellian. You can't stop raving about China, the CCP, and how the torture people who don't fall in line.

2. You should really start asking a trusted adult to read the article to you before commenting. How embarrassing for you:

 

[P@triot]

He read Ayn Rand as a teen and really thinks selfishness is a life strategy.

Says the guy who literally will not help anyone. "Selfishness is a life strategy" is literally the slogan of the left. Demand that government take from others and give to them.

 

[P@triot]

Uh, guy, Trump fails the basic Reagan test.

Are you better off than you were four years ago. For most people, the answer to that is NO!

We were infinitely better off (until China Joe was sworn in):

• Record low unemployment
• Record market highs
• Lower taxes
• Higher incomes
• 4 historic peace agreements
• Not a single war on his watch

 

[P@triot]

China didn't give us Covid. Trump's incompetence in handling it gave us Covid

WTF? Was President Trump in charge in Italy? Canada? Japan? France?

Snowflake, I get that China is paying you to spread propaganda on the internet, but you have to make your nonsense at least slightly plausible. COVID came from the sick, oppressive, communist nation you masturbate over 24x7. Period. End of story.

 

[P@triot]

Which is it - we must put the anti-democratic authoritarians, a.k.a. Republicans, into office

The Republicans get us infinitely closer to constitutional government than the oppressive Dumbocrats.

Especially Republicans like Donald Trump, who restored constitutional government for the United States. He pulled us out of the repulsive W.H.O., he reversed Obama's unconstitutional block of the Keystone Pipeline, he reversed Obama's unconstitutional block of the Dakota pipeline, he pulled us out of the repulsive (unconstitutional) Paris Accord, etc. The list goes on and on and on.

 

[Leviticus]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

There is a very deep misunderstanding of exactly what the 10th amendment does. For some odd reason for writers have it in their heads that if a law is not specifically written word for word in the Constitution that it's unconstitutional.

 

[P@triot]

He read Ayn Rand as a teen and really thinks selfishness is a life strategy

God always delivers the perfect news story directly to me whenever Joey spreads propaganda (never even have to search for this stuff ).

Sure pays to be a selfish left-wing marxist, doesn't it Joey???

Report: Marxist Black Lives Matter Co-founder Bought Four Homes since 2016

Patrisse Khan-Cullors, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement and a "trained Marxist," is reported to have bought four homes.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

There is a very deep misunderstanding of exactly what the 10th amendment does. For some odd reason for writers have it in their heads that if a law is not specifically written word for word in the Constitution that it's unconstitutional.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

English. Means what it says, no more no less.

 

[Leviticus]

China didn't give us Covid. Trump's incompetence in handling it gave us Covid

WTF? Was President Trump in charge in Italy? Canada? Japan? France?

Snowflake, I get that China is paying you to spread propaganda on the internet, but you have to make your nonsense at least slightly plausible. COVID came from the sick, oppressive, communist nation you masturbate over 24x7. Period. End of story.

Trump downplayed the pandemic for most of 2020, claiming that the virus didn't actually exist and that any deaths were caused by the flu, and that the high death count wasn't real and was a hoax created by the Democrats and China.

When he was forced to actually admit that covid-29 was a real threat, he continued downplaying it, claiming that social distancing and masks were not necessary. He also spread dangerous false information, such as injecting bleach into the body to kill the virus.

 

[Leviticus]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

There is a very deep misunderstanding of exactly what the 10th amendment does. For some odd reason for writers have it in their heads that if a law is not specifically written word for word in the Constitution that it's unconstitutional.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

English. Means what it says, no more no less.

The authority to pass law is a singular power. Every single law does not need specific language written in the constitution to authorize it.

 

[Dragonlady]

So let's review your bit of crazy. A teacher suspects a child might be trans.. The teacher didn't make the kid trans, the kid came to that conclusion all on his own...

So, um, yeah, being someone a kid can trust when they can't trust their parents... um, that would be a good thing.

Who decides what equals "trust"? You keep creating a false narrative. The argument is if a fucking government employee has the right to help a child make a life-altering decision while hiding that decision from the parents (the answer of course is hell no, no matter how much children transitioning turns you on).

You backed yourself into a corner and now you sound like a lunatic.

Well you’re working yourself into a right sense of outrage over something that seldom ever happens. Gin up the outrage machine!

How many trans people do you know? How often does this come up? Why aren’t you talking about real issues instead of cultural bullshit being pushed by right wing media outlets?

How long are you going to continue to be a gullible fool for the republican right wing outrage machine?

 

[MadChemist]

The people tasked with enforcing our laws are the same people violating our most important laws....

Beyond the controversial ways stingray technology works, the secrecy and deception law enforcement agencies use to cloak their use of the devices is also troubling. Law enforcement agencies around the country have routinely used the devices without obtaining a warrant from judges. In cases where they did obtain a warrant, they often deceived judges about the nature of the technology they planned to use. Instead of telling judges that they intended to use a stingray or cell site simulator, they have often mischaracterized the technology, describing it as a pen register device instead.

Hacker Lexicon: Stingrays, the Spy Tool the Government Tried, and Failed, to Hide

Which is it - we must put the anti-democratic authoritarians, a.k.a. Republicans, into office, or your must restore Constitutional government, because you can't do both. Republicans sent unmarked military units to Portland to pick up protestors off the street, and take them to an undisclosed location, so a Party which would do that, is not working under the Constitution, and that's before Trump tried a coup.

You cannot start a thread about preserving the Constitution without mentioned the unConstitutional behaviour of Donald Trump and Republican Party around the 2020 election.

Please tell us which states that republican governors fit what you describe.

Can we compare them to the wicked witch of the west who rules Michigan ?

 

[MadChemist]

The people tasked with enforcing our laws are the same people violating our most important laws....

Beyond the controversial ways stingray technology works, the secrecy and deception law enforcement agencies use to cloak their use of the devices is also troubling. Law enforcement agencies around the country have routinely used the devices without obtaining a warrant from judges. In cases where they did obtain a warrant, they often deceived judges about the nature of the technology they planned to use. Instead of telling judges that they intended to use a stingray or cell site simulator, they have often mischaracterized the technology, describing it as a pen register device instead.

Hacker Lexicon: Stingrays, the Spy Tool the Government Tried, and Failed, to Hide

I realize this thread is years in the making.

It seems your title is overarching but your OP is pretty focused.

Just saying.

Anyway, here is an article from CATO that is pretty good....

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/catos-letters-9.pdf

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

There is a very deep misunderstanding of exactly what the 10th amendment does. For some odd reason for writers have it in their heads that if a law is not specifically written word for word in the Constitution that it's unconstitutional.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

English. Means what it says, no more no less.

The authority to pass law is a singular power. Every single law does not need specific language written in the constitution to authorize it.

Indeed, but the legislation passed may not surpass the authority assigned to the federal government by the Constitution. The federal government may not legally grant itself additional authority short of a constitutional amendment.

 

[P@triot]

Well you’re working yourself into a right sense of outrage over something that seldom ever happens.

You missed the entire discussion (as usual). Government employees should not attempt to make major life choices for children (while simultaneously hiding those major life choices from the child’s parent). Only a left-wing lunatic would think that that kind of Nazi, Germany bullshit is a good idea.