We must restore constitutional government

[JWBooth]

They certainly didn't want you to vote if you were a slave or a woman, but they wanted all free men to be able to vote.

Good thinking on their part.
Repeal the 19th.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, we MUST restore the constitution to it's original form.

The gun rights need to be restored, and Karl Marx's manifesto has got to go.

You know, like back when a hard working man could own a few slaves if he wanted to, and before wimmin got so uppity and insisted they should be able to vote.

No man ever owned more slaves than he was doing well enough in business to make payroll and share the wealth with his employees anyways. And I don't know that anyone objected in theory that women should vote, but those women have to be stopped from murdering and torturing unborn babies and infants, and ceased and desisted from collecting so much child support and alimony from strange men.

The original constitution only dealt with 13 states, and that would make it a lot easier to count votes after elections. Great idea you got there Bubba. I wonder why nobody ever thought of that before.

The Constitution provided for the admission of more states than that. The Democrats have got an "urbanization" agenda in Puerto Rico, and they're demanding a totally Marxist city hall in every locality and community before admitting it as a state. And then they've got a statehood agenda for the District of Columbia, denying the constitutional principle that the District of the seat of government is already too powerful and ought not to be a state, notwithstanding the Civil War retrocession of the original portion of the District of Columbia south and west of the Potomac river to Virginia.

The constitution provided for more than just adding more states. It provided for us to adapt to a world that has drastically different problems and needs than they did when the country was funded. I'm sorry if you are too childish to adapt to a changing world, but you will just have to get over it

That's supposed to be done through the amendment process, douchebag. Nothing about making DC a state is designed to provide for us to adapt to a world that has drastically different problems and needs. It's a blatant power grab, and nothing more.

You failed to fool anyone.

Of course it is. The founders never intended for that many people to go without representation. Divide off those areas that are specifically government areas,( white house, senate, etc.) and form a state for the rest. Problem solved. Nobody is trying to fool anyone.

"The founders never intended for that many people to go without representation."

Actually, yes they did. The Founding Fathers were not fans of democracy. They wanted voting strictly limited to those who were responsible and qualified.

They certainly didn't want you to vote if you were a slave or a woman, but they wanted all free men to be able to vote.

Not true. They limited voting to property owners and in other ways.

 

[P@triot]

We must restore constitutional government
How’s that working out so far?
Spooner was right.

Not sure what that even means. We haven't restored it, so how can I comment on how that worked out? Come back when we're operating under constitutional government again.

 

[P@triot]

The left is absolutely disgusting. We have to restore constitutional government and we better do it damn soon...

School Districts Are Hiding Information About Children From Their Parents

American law has long recognized the rights of parents. But some school districts are acting like these rights are no longer valid.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[JoeB131]

The left is absolutely disgusting. We have to restore constitutional government and we better do it damn soon...

School Districts Are Hiding Information About Children From Their Parents

American law has long recognized the rights of parents. But some school districts are acting like these rights are no longer valid.

www.dailysignal.com

If a kid feels the need to hide their gender identity from the transphobic parents, you really think it's a good idea for schools to out them?

 

[P@triot]

If a kid feels the need to hide their gender identity from the transphobic parents, you really think it's a good idea for schools to out them?

If government employees - with no relation to a child whatsoever - feel it’s a good idea to make life-altering decisions for that child, we have entered North Korea / Nazi, Germany / communist China territory.

Now I get, we all know you looooove that shit. You’ve raved about all 3 many times. But normal people don’t. The only people who should ever make decisions regarding a child is the biological parent (or legal guardian in the event that the biological parents are no longer around). Period. End of story.

 

[bripat9643]

The left is absolutely disgusting. We have to restore constitutional government and we better do it damn soon...

School Districts Are Hiding Information About Children From Their Parents

American law has long recognized the rights of parents. But some school districts are acting like these rights are no longer valid.

www.dailysignal.com

If a kid feels the need to hide their gender identity from the transphobic parents, you really think it's a good idea for schools to out them?

Chemical castration is a good alternative?

You're an imbecile.

 

[P@triot]

If a kid feels the need to hide their gender identity from the transphobic parents, you really think it's a good idea for schools to out them?

Chemical castration is a good alternative?

You're an imbecile.

Oh he's an imbecile alright. He loves the idea of government raising everyone's children. That is, until Donald Trump and the Republicans are in control. Then he spends every waking moment losing his shit.

I never cease to marvel at the ignorance of the left. Since Republicans cause them to come unglued, and it is absolutely inevitable that Republicans will control government, you'd think they would deeply desire the smallest, most limited government imaginable.

But nope! They just aren't bright enough to figure that out.

 

[JoeB131]

If government employees - with no relation to a child whatsoever - feel it’s a good idea to make life-altering decisions for that child, we have entered North Korea / Nazi, Germany / communist China territory.

Wow. So by your logic, if a teacher suspects child abuse, and reports it to the police, that's "Nazi Germany" territory, because what goes on in the home should be the parents business? Really, Poodle?

Now I get, we all know you looooove that shit. You’ve raved about all 3 many times. But normal people don’t. The only people who should ever make decisions regarding a child is the biological parent (or legal guardian in the event that the biological parents are no longer around). Period. End of story.

So what you are saying is child abuse is okay, and none of the government's business? Wow, good to know, Poodle.

Oh he's an imbecile alright. He loves the idea of government raising everyone's children. That is, until Donald Trump and the Republicans are in control. Then he spends every waking moment losing his shit.

I never cease to marvel at the ignorance of the left. Since Republicans cause them to come unglued, and it is absolutely inevitable that Republicans will control government, you'd think they would deeply desire the smallest, most limited government imaginable.

Actually, no. Republicans shouldn't be in charge because they are fucking incompetent... They never make the government any smaller... in fact, they grow government at about the same rate as Democrats do.

The problem wasn't that Trump was in charge, it was that Trump handled everything BADLY. resulting in 500,000 dead, 65 million jobs lost, riots in the streets, a wrecked economy.

If you guys were really for "small government", you wouldn't be trying to ban abortion, roll back voting rights or dismantle unions.

When a crisis hit, Trump went full Keynesian, pumping the economy full of money, because that's what you do.

 

[P@triot]

Wow. So by your logic, if a teacher suspects child abuse, and reports it to the police, that's "Nazi Germany" territory, because what goes on in the home should be the parents business? Really, Poodle?

Bwahahaha! You just tried to compare hiding stuff from parents while making life-altering decisions to reporting a crime to law enforcement (who will in fact immediately involve the parents). #EpicFail #YouTriedAndFailed #WouldYouLikeToTryAgain?

I love when Joe's love of oppressive dictatorships backs him into a corner and forces him to say whack-job shit

 

[P@triot]

Actually, no. Republicans shouldn't be in charge because they are fucking incompetent...

I rest my case, folks. Joe isn't bright enough to figure out that Republicans will always gain control again at some point (as will Dumbocrats) so voting for a government with unlimited power is a special kind of ignorant.

Not for nothing, but his "fucking incompetent" comment is left-wing dog-whistle for "they won't give me free shit and handouts so I hate them".

 

[P@triot]

The problem wasn't that Trump was in charge, it was that Trump handled everything BADLY.

It was only "bad" for the anti-American, pro-oppressive-dictatroship tools. Everyone else was loving the record low unemployment, record market highs, lower taxes, higher incomes, and world peace.

The people you masturbate over 24x7 (the CCP who tortures and oppresses people) are the one's who gave the world COVID, dill-hole

 

[P@triot]

If you guys were really for "small government", you wouldn't be trying to ban abortion, roll back voting rights or dismantle unions

Uh..."right to work laws" = LESS control over people (which is why you hate is so much)

Georgia expanded voter rights (even left-wing propaganda machine CBS had to admit that much)

Allowing murder isn't an indication of "small government". It's a sign of ignorant large, left-wing governments engaging in genocide.

#YouTriedAndFailedYetAGAIN

 

[P@triot]

Father,

This is the day that God has made. Let us rejoice, and be glad in it. We pray for Joe today, Lord. He is lost, confused, hurt, and separated from you. We pray that You will leave the 99 to bring him home. He's not bad, he's just had bad things happen to him and he didn't know how to cope with that. Use all of that and more to help him find You.

In Jesus Name, Amen

 

[JoeB131]

Bwahahaha! You just tried to compare hiding stuff from parents while making life-altering decisions to reporting a crime to law enforcement (who will in fact immediately involve the parents).

I love when Joe's love of oppressive dictatorships backs him into a corner and forces him to say whack-job shit

Uh, guy... you are the one who has backed yourself into a corner.

So let's review your bit of crazy. A teacher suspects a child might be trans.. The teacher didn't make the kid trans, the kid came to that conclusion all on his own...

So, um, yeah, being someone a kid can trust when they can't trust their parents... um, that would be a good thing.

Uh..."right to work laws" = LESS control over people (which is why you hate is so much)

Georgia expanded voter rights (even left-wing propaganda machine CBS had to admit that much)

Wow, man, that's fucking Orwellian. How is keeping people from voting expanding voting rights.

The problem with you guys on the LIbertarian Right is you think "Freedom" is the ability of the rich to fuck the rest of us.

You certainly don't want the anarchy of where we can kill our bosses if we don't like their decisions. That would be anarchy.

Father,

This is the day that God has made. Let us rejoice, and be glad in it. We pray for Joe today, Lord. He is lost, confused, hurt, and separated from you. We pray that You will leave the 99 to bring him home. He's not bad, he's just had bad things happen to him and he didn't know how to cope with that. Use all of that and more to help him find You.

In Jesus Name, Amen

Mighty C'Thulhu,

this is the day your Tentacles have made. Let us rejoice, and be glad in it. We pray for Poodle today, Lord. He is stupid, mean, and really the kind of amoral asshole you would love. He read Ayn Rand as a teen and really thinks selfishness is a life strategy. Let us hope one day, he learns to be a decent human being.

In C'Thulhu's Name, Amen.

 

[JoeB131]

It was only "bad" for the anti-American, pro-oppressive-dictatroship tools. Everyone else was loving the record low unemployment, record market highs, lower taxes, higher incomes, and world peace.

The people you masturbate over 24x7 (the CCP who tortures and oppresses people) are the one's who gave the world COVID, dill-hole

Uh, guy, Trump fails the basic Reagan test.

Are you better off than you were four years ago. For most people, the answer to that is NO!

China didn't give us Covid. Trump's incompetence in handling it gave us Covid. The recession and riots are on him.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Bwahahaha! You just tried to compare hiding stuff from parents while making life-altering decisions to reporting a crime to law enforcement (who will in fact immediately involve the parents).

I love when Joe's love of oppressive dictatorships backs him into a corner and forces him to say whack-job shit

Uh, guy... you are the one who has backed yourself into a corner.

So let's review your bit of crazy. A teacher suspects a child might be trans.. The teacher didn't make the kid trans, the kid came to that conclusion all on his own...

So, um, yeah, being someone a kid can trust when they can't trust their parents... um, that would be a good thing.

No kid would come to that conclusion on their own. It must first be suggested to them, and reinforced.

 

[JoeB131]

No kid would come to that conclusion on their own. It must first be suggested to them, and reinforced.

Really?

You really think that no kid decides to be trans or gay until someone suggests it to them?

 

[bripat9643]

If government employees - with no relation to a child whatsoever - feel it’s a good idea to make life-altering decisions for that child, we have entered North Korea / Nazi, Germany / communist China territory.

Wow. So by your logic, if a teacher suspects child abuse, and reports it to the police, that's "Nazi Germany" territory, because what goes on in the home should be the parents business? Really, Poodle?

Now I get, we all know you looooove that shit. You’ve raved about all 3 many times. But normal people don’t. The only people who should ever make decisions regarding a child is the biological parent (or legal guardian in the event that the biological parents are no longer around). Period. End of story.

So what you are saying is child abuse is okay, and none of the government's business? Wow, good to know, Poodle.

Oh he's an imbecile alright. He loves the idea of government raising everyone's children. That is, until Donald Trump and the Republicans are in control. Then he spends every waking moment losing his shit.

I never cease to marvel at the ignorance of the left. Since Republicans cause them to come unglued, and it is absolutely inevitable that Republicans will control government, you'd think they would deeply desire the smallest, most limited government imaginable.

Actually, no. Republicans shouldn't be in charge because they are fucking incompetent... They never make the government any smaller... in fact, they grow government at about the same rate as Democrats do.

The problem wasn't that Trump was in charge, it was that Trump handled everything BADLY. resulting in 500,000 dead, 65 million jobs lost, riots in the streets, a wrecked economy.

If you guys were really for "small government", you wouldn't be trying to ban abortion, roll back voting rights or dismantle unions.

When a crisis hit, Trump went full Keynesian, pumping the economy full of money, because that's what you do.

Chemical castration is child abuse, moron.

No kid would come to that conclusion on their own. It must first be suggested to them, and reinforced.

Really?

You really think that no kid decides to be trans or gay until someone suggests it to them?

Why do you believe otherwise? How would it come into a kid's head that he should have an operation to change his sex if it wasn't for leftwing propaganda?

 

[Markle]

Mercenary police is why do many Blacks are being killed by police, and mercenary soldiers is why we were lied to about Iraqi WMD.

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
- President Clinton in 1998 “

[…], when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.”
- President Clinton , Jan. 27, 1998 – State of the Union

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 .

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqis nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.”

“Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”
- President Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
- Madeline Albright, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "

Update: September 8, 2005 - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser was sentenced to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them..

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 .

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 .

Former Vice President Joe Biden urged the U.S. government in 1998 to pursue a strategy to ‘dethrone’ Saddam Hussein over allegations the Iraqi strongman was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

Biden, the-then ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was one of President Bill Clinton’s most vocal allies in the battle to pressure Hussein to abide by terms established after the Gulf War requiring Iraq to destroy its stockpile of chemical weapons. - Former Vice President Joe Biden 1998 1998: Joe Biden Urged U.S. to 'Dethrone' Saddam Hussein Over WMDs

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 .


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 .

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 .

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 .

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003" (Currently President Barack Hussein Obama’s Secretary of State)

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."
- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Saddam is gone and good riddance," former President Bill Clinton said yesterday, but he urged President Bush to resist trying to get even with nations that opposed the war.

"There are German and French soldiers in Afghanistan today. Does the President want them to come home?" Clinton said at a Manhattan forum on corporate integrity.

Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)



He [President Clinton] praised Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for their handling of the war, but said Bush should have waited longer before attacking for the "chance that either [Saddam Hussein] would have disarmed or . . . we would have had far more members of the Security Council with us."

Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned weapons of mass destruction aren't found.

"I don't think you can criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. . . . That is what I was always told," Clinton said.

- Former President Clinton Wednesday, April 16, 2003

"Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" The vice president said he’d been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."
- Vice President Joe Biden (D) Feb. 10, 2010