We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

[skookerasbil]

lol........the AGW climate hysterics can hem and whore until the cows come home about a CO2 link to climate change but the fact of the matter is, only 28% of Americans think the climate scientists understand the causes of climate change. In other words........most people think they don't know dick about what causes climate change.

http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/10/04/public-views-on-climate-change-and-climate-scientists/


And the folks in charge of public policy on climate change right now think it is spectacularly stoopid to be spending $$ on trying to stop climate change............see vid here from last month >>>

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/324358-white-house-says-climate-funding-is-a-waste-of-your-money


What does it all add up to??


That discussion of PPM in 2017 is irrelevant s0ns.........may not like that fact but that's the way it is.



Like Ive been saying for 15 years..........when the picture below is taken in mid January in central Alaska after a 3 week spell of 70 degrees, it is then and only then that the AGW k00ks will get their way. Not a second sooner!!



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[HereWeGoAgain]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017

The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone. Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it has.

On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.
Click to enlarge.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

I fill up my tank at night and let it run all night.

I am hoping we break 425 by next year !

I'm doing my part...
My truck gets around 10 mpg the way I drive,and when I tow my erosion inducing 4 wheeler i get around 7.5 mpg.

 

[ScienceRocks]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017

The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone. Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it has.

On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.
Click to enlarge.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

This is the reality but posting here is like posting Martin Luther King Jr picnic posters at a KKK hall. The cons here reject science and rational thought. Add to it their galactic case of cognitive dissonance and you have an audience of Joseph Goebbels' at a Jerry Seinfeld gig.

Soon enough the dull-wits will be force to face reality but until then you are asking 5 year-olds to understand how an internal combustion engine works. They'll understand some day, but for now, no.

Good information for the normals that read here who can grasp real science.

But you dopes have been saying this stuff for 20 years!! And where has it gotten you? I'll tell you what it has gotten you.........a big fat zero. In the real world, your side is losing in spectacular fashion s0n ( lol....as the EPA is getting torn to shreds as we speak ). Renewable energy in America is still a total joke and there has been zero climate legislation in 10 years!! In the real world..........nobody gives a flying fuck about who understands science or not!! In other words, those with the "cognitive dissonance" are winning! And how funny is that?

And you think the same kind of idiocy and blind thinking the followers of the taliban or isis use for their backwardness is good for America?

 

[westwall]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017

The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone. Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it has.

On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.
Click to enlarge.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

This is the reality but posting here is like posting Martin Luther King Jr picnic posters at a KKK hall. The cons here reject science and rational thought. Add to it their galactic case of cognitive dissonance and you have an audience of Joseph Goebbels' at a Jerry Seinfeld gig.

Soon enough the dull-wits will be force to face reality but until then you are asking 5 year-olds to understand how an internal combustion engine works. They'll understand some day, but for now, no.

Good information for the normals that read here who can grasp real science.

But you dopes have been saying this stuff for 20 years!! And where has it gotten you? I'll tell you what it has gotten you.........a big fat zero. In the real world, your side is losing in spectacular fashion s0n ( lol....as the EPA is getting torn to shreds as we speak ). Renewable energy in America is still a total joke and there has been zero climate legislation in 10 years!! In the real world..........nobody gives a flying fuck about who understands science or not!! In other words, those with the "cognitive dissonance" are winning! And how funny is that?

And you think the same kind of idiocy and blind thinking the followers of the taliban or isis use for their backwardness is good for America?

The only blind thinkers are those who demand that you not question them and their positions matt. Now, who is saying the "science is settled" again?

 

[Old Rocks]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017

The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone. Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it has.

On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.
Click to enlarge.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

This is the reality but posting here is like posting Martin Luther King Jr picnic posters at a KKK hall. The cons here reject science and rational thought. Add to it their galactic case of cognitive dissonance and you have an audience of Joseph Goebbels' at a Jerry Seinfeld gig.

Soon enough the dull-wits will be force to face reality but until then you are asking 5 year-olds to understand how an internal combustion engine works. They'll understand some day, but for now, no.

Good information for the normals that read here who can grasp real science.

But you dopes have been saying this stuff for 20 years!! And where has it gotten you? I'll tell you what it has gotten you.........a big fat zero. In the real world, your side is losing in spectacular fashion s0n ( lol....as the EPA is getting torn to shreds as we speak ). Renewable energy in America is still a total joke and there has been zero climate legislation in 10 years!! In the real world..........nobody gives a flying fuck about who understands science or not!! In other words, those with the "cognitive dissonance" are winning! And how funny is that?

And you think the same kind of idiocy and blind thinking the followers of the taliban or isis use for their backwardness is good for America?

The only blind thinkers are those who demand that you not question them and their positions matt. Now, who is saying the "science is settled" again?

And yet, Mr. Phd, why is it that this old millwright backs up his assertions with articles from peer reviewed journals, while you fail to back yours with anything credible?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017
We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

This is the reality but posting here is like posting Martin Luther King Jr picnic posters at a KKK hall. The cons here reject science and rational thought. Add to it their galactic case of cognitive dissonance and you have an audience of Joseph Goebbels' at a Jerry Seinfeld gig.

Soon enough the dull-wits will be force to face reality but until then you are asking 5 year-olds to understand how an internal combustion engine works. They'll understand some day, but for now, no.

Good information for the normals that read here who can grasp real science.

But you dopes have been saying this stuff for 20 years!! And where has it gotten you? I'll tell you what it has gotten you.........a big fat zero. In the real world, your side is losing in spectacular fashion s0n ( lol....as the EPA is getting torn to shreds as we speak ). Renewable energy in America is still a total joke and there has been zero climate legislation in 10 years!! In the real world..........nobody gives a flying fuck about who understands science or not!! In other words, those with the "cognitive dissonance" are winning! And how funny is that?

And you think the same kind of idiocy and blind thinking the followers of the taliban or isis use for their backwardness is good for America?

The only blind thinkers are those who demand that you not question them and their positions matt. Now, who is saying the "science is settled" again?

And yet, Mr. Phd, why is it that this old millwright backs up his assertions with articles from peer reviewed journals, while you fail to back yours with anything credible?

Peer reviewed journals are good......for wiping your ass in this case.

 

[flacaltenn]

Is it a coincidence that 410 was acheived on 4/20 ? You gotta be smoking something to celebrate either one.

BTW -- It will be BELOW 410ppm again this fall. Because the PEAK rides on the Mean and there is at least 20ppm variance EVERY YEAR.. So anybody panicking about this -- just needs to wait out the summer when the OCEAN (around Mauna Loa) is "polluting" with 10 times the CO2 that man puts out.

What MATTERS is --- the initials models that got this HYSTERIA started were way off. Even back the 1990 IPCC report (FAR) -- they were OFF on temperature dependency by a factor of 2. Instead of something like 1.2DegC by 2020, It's looking more like 0.6degC by 2020.. ALL these estimates that started the panic were WAY over-hype and exaggerated. There's an ISSUE --- not a CRISIS .. Bottom Line.. FAR is the First IPCC report, SAR then Third or TAR. Guess which numbers the politicians and the media ran headlines on 1990??

OF COURSE -- it was the TOP of the FAR estimates.. Literally BAKING us by 2100..

 

[Wyatt earp]

When did 410 become a "threshold". What does the lab work show as the effects of exploding from 409 to 410?

Nothing right?

Hey Frank, you have been outside today notice anything different?

 

[ScienceRocks]

When did 410 become a "threshold". What does the lab work show as the effects of exploding from 409 to 410?

Nothing right?

Hey Frank, you have been outside today notice anything different?

It is really warm today

 

[Wyatt earp]

When did 410 become a "threshold". What does the lab work show as the effects of exploding from 409 to 410?

Nothing right?

Hey Frank, you have been outside today notice anything different?

It is really warm today

Well it's April

 

[MisterBeale]

All we have to do is put all the liberals at the bottom of the ocean and Global Warming would go away.....

Is there even one denier here who isn't an open sociopath?

In this forum, almost all of them are very open in stating their desire to kill all of their political opponents. Stalin looks warm and fuzzy compared to the deniers.

I don't think anyone is denying that the Earth's weather changes.

This is most logical.

I think what most folks have a problem with is trusting the nexus of government funded establishment motivations for pushing AGW, which, really, there is no evidence for.


The weather of the Earth has always been in flux, whether we have been here or not. It always will be in flux, long after we are gone. This is a convenient tool to control the world's population, just like the illicit global drug trade, global terrorism, etc. And wouldn't you know it, all of these problems are mostly the cause of big government, so how can we expect big government to be the solution?

When big government decides on winners and losers in the energy sector, we can't hardly take them seriously on this issue. They have, for the last century, suppressed a multitude of alternative energy technologies that would free humanity from the hydro-carbon industry. The only alternatives that are ever allowed are ones that don't offer an economic advantage over hydro-carbons. If they did, it would directly compromise the petrol-dollar. Then is would follow, the American war machine and the industrial-war-complex that has created a world police state would crumble and the world's elites would lose their power. Energy equals the power to control water and food.

The whole issue is a facade, a lie, completely bogus.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When did 410 become a "threshold". What does the lab work show as the effects of exploding from 409 to 410?

Nothing right?

Hey Frank, you have been outside today notice anything different?

Warming...global

 

[ding]

Is it a coincidence that 410 was acheived on 4/20 ? You gotta be smoking something to celebrate either one.

BTW -- It will be BELOW 410ppm again this fall. Because the PEAK rides on the Mean and there is at least 20ppm variance EVERY YEAR.. So anybody panicking about this -- just needs to wait out the summer when the OCEAN (around Mauna Loa) is "polluting" with 10 times the CO2 that man puts out.

What MATTERS is --- the initials models that got this HYSTERIA started were way off. Even back the 1990 IPCC report (FAR) -- they were OFF on temperature dependency by a factor of 2. Instead of something like 1.2DegC by 2020, It's looking more like 0.6degC by 2020.. ALL these estimates that started the panic were WAY over-hype and exaggerated. There's an ISSUE --- not a CRISIS .. Bottom Line.. FAR is the First IPCC report, SAR then Third or TAR. Guess which numbers the politicians and the media ran headlines on 1990??

OF COURSE -- it was the TOP of the FAR estimates.. Literally BAKING us by 2100..

I am not even convinced there is an issue.

 

[westwall]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017
We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

This is the reality but posting here is like posting Martin Luther King Jr picnic posters at a KKK hall. The cons here reject science and rational thought. Add to it their galactic case of cognitive dissonance and you have an audience of Joseph Goebbels' at a Jerry Seinfeld gig.

Soon enough the dull-wits will be force to face reality but until then you are asking 5 year-olds to understand how an internal combustion engine works. They'll understand some day, but for now, no.

Good information for the normals that read here who can grasp real science.

But you dopes have been saying this stuff for 20 years!! And where has it gotten you? I'll tell you what it has gotten you.........a big fat zero. In the real world, your side is losing in spectacular fashion s0n ( lol....as the EPA is getting torn to shreds as we speak ). Renewable energy in America is still a total joke and there has been zero climate legislation in 10 years!! In the real world..........nobody gives a flying fuck about who understands science or not!! In other words, those with the "cognitive dissonance" are winning! And how funny is that?

And you think the same kind of idiocy and blind thinking the followers of the taliban or isis use for their backwardness is good for America?

The only blind thinkers are those who demand that you not question them and their positions matt. Now, who is saying the "science is settled" again?

And yet, Mr. Phd, why is it that this old millwright backs up his assertions with articles from peer reviewed journals, while you fail to back yours with anything credible?

I don't care about pal reviewed science fiction. They derive their funding from it so they have a vested interest in promulgating their shit. I'm interested in REAL science and I provide links to those papers all of the time too. You just don't read them because they are too hard.

 

[skookerasbil]

All we have to do is put all the liberals at the bottom of the ocean and Global Warming would go away.....

Is there even one denier here who isn't an open sociopath?

In this forum, almost all of them are very open in stating their desire to kill all of their political opponents. Stalin looks warm and fuzzy compared to the deniers.

I don't think anyone is denying that the Earth's weather changes.

This is most logical.

I think what most folks have a problem with is trusting the nexus of government funded establishment motivations for pushing AGW, which, really, there is no evidence for.


The weather of the Earth has always been in flux, whether we have been here or not. It always will be in flux, long after we are gone. This is a convenient tool to control the world's population, just like the illicit global drug trade, global terrorism, etc. And wouldn't you know it, all of these problems are mostly the cause of big government, so how can we expect big government to be the solution?

When big government decides on winners and losers in the energy sector, we can't hardly take them seriously on this issue. They have, for the last century, suppressed a multitude of alternative energy technologies that would free humanity from the hydro-carbon industry. The only alternatives that are ever allowed are ones that don't offer an economic advantage over hydro-carbons. If they did, it would directly compromise the petrol-dollar. Then is would follow, the American war machine and the industrial-war-complex that has created a world police state would crumble and the world's elites would lose their power. Energy equals the power to control water and food.

The whole issue is a facade, a lie, completely bogus.

very astute post

 

[Billy_Bob]

View attachment 122579 We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Brian Kahn By Brian Kahn


Published: April 20th, 2017

The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone. Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it has.

On Tuesday, the Mauna Loa Observatory recorded its first-ever carbon dioxide reading in excess of 410 parts per million (it was 410.28 ppm in case you want the full deal). Carbon dioxide hasn’t reached that height in millions of years. It’s a new atmosphere that humanity will have to contend with, one that’s trapping more heat and causing the climate to change at a quickening rate.
Click to enlarge.

In what’s become a spring tradition like Passover and Easter, carbon dioxide has set a record high each year since measurements began. It stood at 280 ppm when record keeping began at Mauna Loa in 1958. In 2013, it passed 400 ppm. Just four years later, the 400 ppm mark is no longer a novelty. It’s the norm.

We Just Breached the 410 Parts Per Million Threshold

Well, it is just going to keep going up!

SO WHAT?

You predicting catastrophe? When will occur?

We averaged 1,200ppm for the last 250 million years and we are still here...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Well the usual brain dead ignoramuses have chimed in. Perhaps we should consider the results of the present levels of CO2 and CH4.


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Of course that means nothing to you room temperature IQ's, but it is going to have profound effects over the next decade.

Same shit different day....tell me rocks, what do you think the arctic ice looked like during most of the past 10,000 years? Clearly, we are experiencing one of the cooler climates during that time....temperarure has been much warmer for most of the past 10,000 years and the volume of ice has clearly been much lower...describe the environmental disasters that resulted from those warmer temperatures and lower ice during that time..

It is always the same old bullshit with you rocks...you only want to look at the very short term...which is nothing less than flaming hypocrisy for someone who claims to be interested in geology...if one desires to see the future in climate, all one need do is look to the past...it will get warmer, and then it will get colder...we can only hope that the warming continues, because if the warming trend stops, a cooling trend will begin and then the real problems begin...shorter growing seasons..famine..war on a scale we have never seen, etc. etc. etc.

Holocene variability in sea ice cover, primary production, and Pacific‐Water inflow and climate change in the Chukchi and East Siberian Seas (Arctic Ocean)

There you go again, interjecting facts and real science into his fantasy catastrophic event..

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

We need to ban volcanoes, cow farts, human farts, stop using electronics, stop sending people to space, stop mowing our yards and stop building roads. Clearly. That's what humans did last time this happened and they saved the planet.

The only solution is to just ban humans....I mean darling we are sooooooooooooooooooooooo 18th Century

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Lucy, what do you really think concerning the changes we are seeing from the increase in GHG's? Or are you just going to do nonsensical posts like the rest of the 'Conservatives' here?

 

[westwall]

Now Lucy, what do you really think concerning the changes we are seeing from the increase in GHG's? Or are you just going to do nonsensical posts like the rest of the 'Conservatives' here?

What changes. There have been no changes. Nothing that is happening now is in any way different than what has happened before. Long before mankind was able to add much more than the normal background CO2. It is all a lie.