We have a shut down!

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The argument that the Dreamers will, by default be voters for the Democratic ticket is cynical at best, and exposes the motivations of the opposition at worst. That position further betrays the attitude toward the Dreamers by those who play identity politics so cavalierly.

Maybe you don't really understand what's going on here. The goal of the Democrat party is to make whites a minority ASAP for the first time in our history. If you are white and vote Democrat, you are completely stupid.

Every group outside of whites vote a majority Democrat every election: the Hispanics vote mostly Democrat, the Jewish vote mostly Democrat, middle-eastern people vote mostly Democrat, the Asians vote mostly Democrat, the blacks? Forget about it.

Once Democrats are able to get rid of whites, they will have the ability to turn our nation into a single-party government forever. There will be no real opposition. And we all know what that means. It means turning this country into another socialist hellhole and eventually Communism.

Once whites are out of the picture, the great experiment will be over.

Self-appointed white leaders, attempting to ensure they stay in power by making whites a majority, are morons. One day minorities will figure out that they don't need WHITE leaders, that they have the numbers to elect their own.

You might want to look around first there sport, tell us one city that’s run by other than whites, that’s doing good.


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Atlanta Georgia Tokyo Japan are just examples..there are many others..actually. Singapore comes to mind as well.

Hmmm ...are Italians whites or not...seems to be some disagreement. I was going to pick Rome...oh well.

I'm sure you'll find something to mock..siince your premise..that Whites are superior at governing and city management..is totally false--especially if you look at some of the many failures at governing cities whites can point to as well..although they usually blame their failures on minorities.

Certainly there is nothing to the claims that whit es are exculisivly endowed with th competence needed to run administrations locally, statewide or federally. But the notion that one race,is superior or exclusively has the means intellectually, ideologically, and with discipline is just vile and should be resisted in our politics.

White identity politics is the cornerstone of Trump and his values. These values must be contested and found wanting. We have no room for them in our society.

Identity politics in general are abhorrent---and a tactic both sides use with abandon. The Progressive Dems are just as guilty...sling just as much shit. Black identity politics--White male bashing---leftist historical revisionism...all are destructive.

As for Trump..whom I despise...the cornerstone of his values is Trump. He is about self-interest. Not that I believe he has any love for other races...I doubt he has any love for the White race either...he loves his family and money--not necessarily in that order.

The alt/right--are different. Their values are racist..sometimes openly..always present. Alt/right and Progressive Left--to a large degree..they are what is wrong with our country today.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It does not damage the Fed Govt you moron. But it does damage military families that will not get paycheck if it goes beyond two weeks. But I am sure you happy as hell about that too.

Fucking party zealots make me want to puke

I don’t give a shit about any party, least of all the deep state. The federal government is the enemy of the country… fact

Says the Trump zealot. You are not fooling anyone.

Federal government is to corrupt to give a shit about... lol

This is just a mindless platitude from a Trump zealot trying to hide his loyalties.

The vast majority of the Fed Govt are just people doing their job trying to support their families just like most of the people on this board.

There is nothing corrupt about the guy sitting the radar room keeping people safe while flying, there is nothing corrupt about the person collecting data to put out crop reports or the person stocking shelves at a commissary on a military base.

These are the people getting fucked by a shutdown if it last very long. The actual corrupt people are the 536 people that have failed to do their jobs but are still allowed to go to work and get paid.

How many of those positions are actually necessary, and how many have 5 different agencies all allegedly supposed to do the same thing?

As far as I know all of them are. If you have some other specific information and not just talking points feel free to share it with me

 

[Marion Morrison]

I don’t give a shit about any party, least of all the deep state. The federal government is the enemy of the country… fact

Says the Trump zealot. You are not fooling anyone.

Federal government is to corrupt to give a shit about... lol

This is just a mindless platitude from a Trump zealot trying to hide his loyalties.

The vast majority of the Fed Govt are just people doing their job trying to support their families just like most of the people on this board.

There is nothing corrupt about the guy sitting the radar room keeping people safe while flying, there is nothing corrupt about the person collecting data to put out crop reports or the person stocking shelves at a commissary on a military base.

These are the people getting fucked by a shutdown if it last very long. The actual corrupt people are the 536 people that have failed to do their jobs but are still allowed to go to work and get paid.

How many of those positions are actually necessary, and how many have 5 different agencies all allegedly supposed to do the same thing?

As far as I know all of them are. If you have some other specific information and not just talking points feel free to share it with me

"All of them are". Well spoken like a true Statist!

I'm sure some "Specific information" can be gleaned from these articles, if you're inclined to read them.

My money says you just wanted to send me off on a fishing expedition and don't give a fuck to learn anything. I'm not doing your homework for you. This happens all the way down to the HOA.
Were you really that ignorant of the situation, or no?

Even Obama realized it. (Well he should have, it's not your job, it was his.)

"Obama will propose the cutting or consolidating 215 federal programs, saving $25 billion next year, according to an administration source who spoke on condition of anonymity because the budget hasn't been released."

Report: Redundant federal programs waste billions


Federal Eye - Government overlap costs taxpayers billions, GAO reports

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Marion Morrison]

Tyrone, go back to the basement and do you a couple dabs, dude. This discussion is for the grownups.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Says the Trump zealot. You are not fooling anyone.

Federal government is to corrupt to give a shit about... lol

This is just a mindless platitude from a Trump zealot trying to hide his loyalties.

The vast majority of the Fed Govt are just people doing their job trying to support their families just like most of the people on this board.

There is nothing corrupt about the guy sitting the radar room keeping people safe while flying, there is nothing corrupt about the person collecting data to put out crop reports or the person stocking shelves at a commissary on a military base.

These are the people getting fucked by a shutdown if it last very long. The actual corrupt people are the 536 people that have failed to do their jobs but are still allowed to go to work and get paid.

How many of those positions are actually necessary, and how many have 5 different agencies all allegedly supposed to do the same thing?

As far as I know all of them are. If you have some other specific information and not just talking points feel free to share it with me

"All of them are". Well spoken like a true Statist!

I'm sure some "Specific information" can be gleaned from these articles, if you're inclined to read them.

My money says you just wanted to send me off on a fishing expedition and don't give a fuck to learn anything. I'm not doing your homework for you. This happens all the way down to the HOA.
Were you really that ignorant of the situation, or no?

Report: Redundant federal programs waste billions


Federal Eye - Government overlap costs taxpayers billions, GAO reports

OH MY GOD.....Each branch of the armed services is developing its own camouflage uniforms without sharing them with other services.

Holy fuck, that is the end of the fucking world!

Luckily we have a POTUS that is focusing in on ending redundancies in the Fed Govt.

But let me ask you, do you think this shut down will help the problem of redundancies or will it only keep it going even longer?

Are you one of the sheep that think shutdowns save the government money?

 

[Rustic]

The deep state is a huge waste of tax dollars...
Civilian federal jobs are all about corruption and waste fraud and abuse

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Tyrone, go back to the basement and do you a couple dabs, dude. This discussion is for the grownups.

the smoker I think the slayer I get with Right wing arguments ...believe me...

 

[dcbl]

OH MY GOD.....Each branch of the armed services is developing its own camouflage uniforms without sharing them with other services.

scoff if you want to, but this type of thing is exactly what is needed - somebody needs to have a full time job identifying and working to reduce any duplication of service

 

[Harpy Eagle]

OH MY GOD.....Each branch of the armed services is developing its own camouflage uniforms without sharing them with other services.

scoff if you want to, but this type of thing is exactly what is needed - somebody needs to have a full time job identifying and working to reduce any duplication of service

I was in the Marines when all the branches were designing new camouflage uniforms and they all were designing them separately for two reasons. The first and foremost is that they are used to differentiate between members of each service while they are serving in joint operations and commands. If you have never been in the military you will not be able to understand why this is important, but trust me it is.

Second, each branch has separate missions and requirements for their camouflage uniforms, a one size fits all is not a good way to go.

 

[dcbl]

I was in the Marines when all the branches were designing new camouflage uniforms and they all were designing them separately for two reasons. The first and foremost is that they are used to differentiate between members of each service while they are serving in joint operations and commands. If you have never been in the military you will not be able to understand why this is important, but trust me it is.

Second, each branch has separate missions and requirements for their camouflage uniforms, a one size fits all is not a good way to go.

I can see that & you make a good point on this

but we still need to trim fat just about everywhere

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I was in the Marines when all the branches were designing new camouflage uniforms and they all were designing them separately for two reasons. The first and foremost is that they are used to differentiate between members of each service while they are serving in joint operations and commands. If you have never been in the military you will not be able to understand why this is important, but trust me it is.

Second, each branch has separate missions and requirements for their camouflage uniforms, a one size fits all is not a good way to go.

I can see that & you make a good point on this

but we still need to trim fat just about everywhere

I agree 100%. I have on this board at least a dozen time called for a 10% cut to every agency in the Fed Govt including the DOD. Give them two years to come up with what will be cut and then implement it whether they are ready or not.

There is a lot of areas where money can be saved if they just have the right motivation.

Once the 10% has taken effect give it a couple years to work itself out and then start making more surgical like cuts to the budget.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It is important that the US maintain over 200 military bases on foreign soil. For example the 7 bases in Italy. One never knows if they will turn fascist again!

US Military Bases in Italy | 7 US Bases | Military Bases

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I was in the Marines when all the branches were designing new camouflage uniforms and they all were designing them separately for two reasons. The first and foremost is that they are used to differentiate between members of each service while they are serving in joint operations and commands. If you have never been in the military you will not be able to understand why this is important, but trust me it is.

Second, each branch has separate missions and requirements for their camouflage uniforms, a one size fits all is not a good way to go.

I can see that & you make a good point on this

but we still need to trim fat just about everywhere

I agree 100%. I have on this board at least a dozen time called for a 10% cut to every agency in the Fed Govt including the DOD. Give them two years to come up with what will be cut and then implement it whether they are ready or not.

There is a lot of areas where money can be saved if they just have the right motivation.

Once the 10% has taken effect give it a couple years to work itself out and then start making more surgical like cuts to the budget.

I think the better plan is to get rid of most all bureaucracies. They are unconstitutional to begin with.