We have a serious spending problem - and it can't be disputed

[Dad2three]

Junior? .. that's rich.

It's All about you isn't it? Typical RW'r, ME ME ME screw everyone else, unless of course some third world reghead is getting pushed around then its America to the rescue at any expense, and in the interim consistently turn their backs on fellow Americans who aren't as fortunate as they are .. Go blow a gasket elsewhere, I'm less than impressed with your talking points.

It's all about YOU, isn't it? Typical LW'r - greedy, greedy, greedy - screw America and what my mooching does to the nation, even if it collapses it. Tell me, why aren't you liberals willing to make any sacrifices for this nation? Don't you remember what your golden boy famously said? "Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"? All you liberals do is ask - no, make that demand - what your country can hand you.

Nothing illustrates just how radicalized the left has become than that simple JFK quote from just a few short decades ago. It used to be that the Democrat party expected their supporters to make sacrifices for this country. Now you selfish people expect the country to make sacrifices for you.

If you're doing ok Siete, why don't you take your money and provide the food, housing, healthcare, and retirement that you think so many people need? Why does everybody else have to do it while you hoard everything like a greedy little liberal? And if you're struggling, why don't you make sacrifices for this nation and accept the fact that you may have to do without healthcare, or retirement, etc.? "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".

Go blow a gasket elsewhere Siete. I'm less than impressed with your very weak and pitiful wing-nut talking points.

After 33+ years of right wing 'trickle down'? lol

There are two ways - and only two ways - to run an economy. Free market capitalism which creates tremendous wealth and prosperity for all as the wealth "trickles down" or "Trickle-up-poverty" in which Democrats make sure that failure and sloth is rewarded while success and hard work is punished.

Here is an undeniable truth that is going to make D2T here throw his government-issued computer across the room...

Weird, we had 8 years of Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies, how'd that work out again?

Actually, quite well. We had significantly lower unemployment than we ever had under Barack Obama and the "Trickle-Up-Poverty" policies that you support.

By the way, after 60+ years of complete and total Dumbocrat control in Detroit (that's 60 straight years of a Dumbocrat mayor and a Dumbocrat-controlled city council), how'd that work out? Oh, that's right - rampant poverty, some of the nations highest unemployment, dilapidated buildings as far as the eye can see, and the city ultimately filing for......bankruptcy!

That's right - the ultimate liberal utopia (from control, to taxes, to wealth redistribution, to the biggest unions in the world) ended in bankruptcy. And not just for the city either! It also ended in bankruptcy for GM, Ford, and Chrysler who all had to go grovel before Congress for a "bailout" because ignorant liberal unions had sucked the organizations dry of all of their cash flow.

The debate is over my friend. You've been buried in an avalanche of facts that proves your selfishly supporting policies that collapse companies, cities, states, and nations all so you can mooch like a parasite.

REALLY? Dubya/GOP had good policy? WHY did they lose over 1,000,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years again where Obama has a NET of 7+ milklion in his period so far? lol

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Detroit? Oh right, 30+ years of conservative policy that has industrializedde US in favor of 'job creator' policy in Mexico and China

Yeah, it was 'unions' *shaking head*

 

[Dad2three]

The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.

Iraq war costs U.S. more than 2 trillion study Reuters

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you genius, but whether we are in Iraq or not, our veterans earn benefits. They earn the exact same access to healthcare whether they served in peacetime or wartime. They earn the exact same college tuition whether they were in Iraq or Arizona.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Iraq and defense when the unconstitutional federal social programs cost exponentially more? Could it be because you can't defend those programs, so you need to change the debate and (very weakly might I add) attempt to distract everyone?

So you can't critically think? Seriously? Did we pay for MORE military, more bombs, planes, etc? THAT'S the EXTRA costs DUMMY

Uh....one problem there junior....bombs and planes are not "benefits". Oops! You keep jumping from one talking point to another because your position contradicts itself. Two posts ago you complained about how the Iraq war cost "benefits" and then when I explained to you that military benefits are not contingent upon "seeing action" you responded by irrationally and absurdly stating that I can't critically think because wars cost more bombs and planes - even though bombs and planes are not military benefits. Unless you think that the U.S. government provides veterans with bombs and planes.

You're not terribly bright, are you? It now makes sense why you vote Dumbocrat.

Got it, you don't understand what constitutes funding a war is. I'm shocked

Says the man who states that the operations in Iraq cost us tons of money in "benefits" and when informed that military benefits are not contingent upon "seeing action", cites bombs and planes as "proof" of the cost of military benefits...

Got it, you lie. I'm shocked


The Iraq war has cost the U.S. more than $2 trillion so far and with interest could swell to more than $6 trillion, according to a study released Thursday.

The study, part of the Costs of War Project by the Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University, drew from actual expenditures from the U.S. Treasury and future commitments.


The Iraq War Could Cost More Than 6 Trillion - Business Insider

 

[Dad2three]

"Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior""

Because you are to stupid to do it otherwise?

I rest my case your honor... the left is not only arrogant ("you people need me to think for you"), but they can't construct an intelligent argument to support their very irrational position.

Since clearly D2Three is incapable of explaining his support for failed (not to mention - unconstitutional) social programs, would any other liberals like to take a shot at it?

Well that is some vintage liberal "logic" for you! You know what else "reduces the number of seniors in poverty"? Killing any senior in poverty (which is essentially what Joseph Stalin did in the Soviet Union after the same policies you advocate failed and started to collapse the nation). Yep, if you kill every senior in poverty you would have a senior poverty rate of 0%.

But I don't recommend something that stupid and heartless. Just like I don't recommend something as stupid and heartless as Social Security. Where a person has a gun placed to their head and is forced to put a dollar into a fund for their retirement, only to have the federal government chew up $0.50 of that for themselves and redistribute another $.30 of that to other citizens, leaving the person with exactly $.20 of their original dollar for retirement. Only a Dumbocrat could think that's a good retirement plan

Got it, conservative 'math' lol

How's that 'freedom' going Ronnie warned about when we passed Medicare?

Sadly, exactly as he warned. Now, because the federal government can't afford their socialized healthcare (because it drastically drove up the cost of healthcare), we are all unconstitutionally forced to purchase health insurance under Obamacare.

So each time the Dumbocrats pass an unconstitutional socialist program and it fails (just as conservatives warned them it would), their solution is to pass a larger unconstitutional socialist program because they laughably believe that the more they control things the more they can "fix" things (even though history has proven that absurd theory wrong over and over). That form of " logic" would be like a person who can't afford their Ford Fiesta trading it in for a Lamborghini. If you can't afford the Ford Fiesta, you sure as hell won't be able to afford the Lamborghini. But then again, if these people actually valued logic & reason over ideology, they wouldn't be liberals in the first place.

MORE R/W crap. Shocking. H/C costs going to pivate market guys like dollar Bill McGuire ($1.78 BILLION) isn't the reason US H/C (the ONLY industrialized nation on Earth without some form of UHC),. it's the 'socialism' lol

 

[KissMy]

The $28 billion per year Republicans want to spend on the border is roughly the same amount taxpayers spend on the entire Department of Justice’s annual budget.

They always want to spend, spend, spend other peoples money & never pay for anything.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

For the first time in U.S. history, revenues to the federal government hit $3 trillion in a single year (2014). And yet our failed liberal government still ran up half a trillion in deficit spending. We do not have a revenue problem - we have a spending problem. And it cannot be disputed.

Furthermore, it is not even remotely possible to burn through $3 trillion unless you're actively trying to collapse a nation/economy. It's an astronomical amount of money that cannot be spent unless you throw it away intentionally - like spending over $300k to give bunnies Swedish massages 4x's a day (you can't make this stuff up folks - just click here).

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses 3 Trillion for First Time Ever

We have a government dependency problem.

When people begin to deal with their own issues, learn to budget within their means, educate themselves before seeking out a loan, don't get the latest computer or flat screen television and instead set aside a small amount each week towards your retirement (or build a savings for when you get laid off), we would be better off.

Government spends because people WANT government to be more involved in their own personal lives, mistakes, failures, and situations. We are more dependent on government than those generations before us, who took care of their own problems or went without. Today "going without" has turned into "we are entitled", and that most always comes under someone else's dime because we haven't learned to support and take care of our own needs.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

The $28 billion per year Republicans want to spend on the border is roughly the same amount taxpayers spend on the entire Department of Justice’s annual budget.

They always want to spend, spend, spend other peoples money & never pay for anything.

If Democrats were to support and enforce Federal Immigration Laws, instead approaching a group of foreigners who break federal laws as a possible "voting block", we wouldn't have as big a problem as we have today. Obama wants to use executive powers to nullify the role and undermine the authority of ICE. So if Democrats would get their act together, instead of turning their back on Federal Immigration policy, perhaps we could finally begin to get our boarders under control.

 

[JoeB131]

We have a government dependency problem.

When people begin to deal with their own issues, learn to budget within their means, educate themselves before seeking out a loan, don't get the latest computer or flat screen television and instead set aside a small amount each week towards your retirement (or build a savings for when you get laid off), we would be better off.

Yeah, here's the thing, guy. A lot of did just that with our 401K's.

And they got completely busted in the Crash of 2008.