We Don't Need No Giant Whirlybird Fans

[Weatherman2020]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

 

[OldLady]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

or efficient land use

 

[OldLady]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

No, you have no clue about how to reliably supply power.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The left have no clue about economics.

Try explaining what Politician's "Rainy Day Funds" are...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

No, you have no clue about how to reliably supply power.

Rrriiighhttt cause that's not been done for last 75 yrs

 

[Weatherman2020]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

No, you have no clue about how to reliably supply power.

Says dufus who says let's build and maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to let it collect dust 98% of the time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

No, you have no clue about how to reliably supply power.

Rrriiighhttt cause that's not been done for last 75 yrs

Yep, here in the 21st century cheap reliable energy should be a given. Instead we have rolling blackouts and low income people dying from excessive heat and cold because they can't afford climate control costs.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bonn, 12 February 2018 (WWEA) – The overall capacity of all wind turbines installed worldwide by the end of 2017 reached 539’291 Megawatt, according to preliminary statistics published by WWEA today. 52’552 Megawatt were added in the year 2017, slightly more than in 2016 when 51’402 Megawatt went online. This is the third largest number ever installed within one year, after the record years 2015 and 2014. However, the annual growth rate of only 10,8 % is the lowest growth ever since the industrial deployment of wind turbines started end of the 20th century.

All wind turbines installed by end of 2017 can cover more than 5% of the global electricity demand. For many countries, wind power has become a pillar in their strategies to phase out fossil and nuclear energy. In 2017, Denmark set a new world record with 43% of its power coming from wind. An increasing number of countries have reached a double-digit wind power share, including Germany, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden or Uruguay.

The by far largest wind power market China installed an additional capacity of 19 Gigawatt, slightly less than in 2016, and continues its undisputed position as the world’s wind power leader, with a cumulated wind capacity of 188 Gigawatt. Together with an amazing deployment in solar power, the country is now well on its way of making renewable energy its main energy source.

Out of the leading markets, the US (6,8 Gigawatt added, reaching 89 Gigawatt in total), Germany (6,1 Gigawatt new, overall 56 Gigawatt), India (4,6 Gigawatt added, 32,9 Gigawatt total capacity) United Kingdom (3,3 Gigawatt new, 17,9 Gigawatt total), Brazil (2 Gigawatt new, 12,8 Gigawatt total) and France (1,7 Gigawatt new, 13,8 Gigawatt total) saw all very strong growth, very close to new record.

http://www.wwindea.org/2017-statistics/

Looks like wind is still doing well.

 

[Old Rocks]

Global investment in renewable energy shot up last year, far outstripping investment in fossil fuels, according to a UN report.
As the price of clean energy technology plummets, it has become an increasingly attractive prospect for world governments.
China was by far the world’s largest investor in renewable energy in 2017, accounting for nearly half of the new infrastructure commissioned.
This was mainly a result of its massive support for solar power, which globally attracted nearly a fifth more investment than in the previous year. Other countries including Australia, Sweden and Mexico more than doubled the amount of money they pumped into clean energy projects.

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Renewable energy ‘set to be cheaper than fossil fuels by 2020’​

“Yet again, this was a record year for new renewable power capacity being financed,” Francoise d’Estais from UN Environment’s energy and climate branch told The Independent.

The world is now spending more on renewable energy than coal, gas and nuclear power combined
Renewables will continue to dominate in electrical production. And the grid scale batteries will accelerate this dominance.

 

[fncceo]

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

The straight skinny is solar and wind will always be the backup. Solar and wind isn't available on demand and there is no practical way to store it in quantities required.

Any alternative energy that isn't available on demand isn't a replacement for gas, coal, or nuclear.

 

[Old Rocks]

So 20th century thinking.

South Australia's Virtual Power Plant | Our Energy Plan

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bonn, 12 February 2018 (WWEA) – The overall capacity of all wind turbines installed worldwide by the end of 2017 reached 539’291 Megawatt, according to preliminary statistics published by WWEA today. 52’552 Megawatt were added in the year 2017, slightly more than in 2016 when 51’402 Megawatt went online. This is the third largest number ever installed within one year, after the record years 2015 and 2014. However, the annual growth rate of only 10,8 % is the lowest growth ever since the industrial deployment of wind turbines started end of the 20th century.

All wind turbines installed by end of 2017 can cover more than 5% of the global electricity demand. For many countries, wind power has become a pillar in their strategies to phase out fossil and nuclear energy. In 2017, Denmark set a new world record with 43% of its power coming from wind. An increasing number of countries have reached a double-digit wind power share, including Germany, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden or Uruguay.

The by far largest wind power market China installed an additional capacity of 19 Gigawatt, slightly less than in 2016, and continues its undisputed position as the world’s wind power leader, with a cumulated wind capacity of 188 Gigawatt. Together with an amazing deployment in solar power, the country is now well on its way of making renewable energy its main energy source.

Out of the leading markets, the US (6,8 Gigawatt added, reaching 89 Gigawatt in total), Germany (6,1 Gigawatt new, overall 56 Gigawatt), India (4,6 Gigawatt added, 32,9 Gigawatt total capacity) United Kingdom (3,3 Gigawatt new, 17,9 Gigawatt total), Brazil (2 Gigawatt new, 12,8 Gigawatt total) and France (1,7 Gigawatt new, 13,8 Gigawatt total) saw all very strong growth, very close to new record.

Wind Power Capacity reaches 539 GW, 52,6 GW added in 2017

Looks like wind is still doing well.

Nice 21st century ya got there.
Lights go out whenever the wind slows down.

Ya know with manmade global warming we can expect long periods of no wind ya know.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So 20th century thinking.

South Australia's Virtual Power Plant | Our Energy Plan

OH great. So in 7 years everyone has huge batteries that need disposal and you're stuck buying a replacement for $$$$$$

 

[fncceo]

So 20th century thinking.

South Australia's Virtual Power Plant | Our Energy Plan

At at cost of $50 million, the Lithium Ion battery farm can store enough energy to power about 30,000 homes for a little over an hour. To date, the longest it's ever supplied power to the grid is 38 minutes.

I'm not an astronomer, but I'm almost certain most nights are longer than an hour ... even in Australia.

P.S. ... 30,000 homes represents a population of 75,000 people ... 25,000 fewer than America's 311th largest town, Vacaville, at 100,000 persons. How much should the good citizens of Vacaville be asked to pay for a whole hour of electricity after the sun goes down?

 

[Old Rocks]

So 20th century thinking.

South Australia's Virtual Power Plant | Our Energy Plan

OH great. So in 7 years everyone has huge batteries that need disposal and you're stuck buying a replacement for $$$$$$

Really? Ever hear the term recycling? And the 100 MW/Hr battery in Australia will have payed for itself in less than a year. So if they operate it for seven years, they will be able to afford a 600 MW/Hr battery. And have the profit from the metals recovered from the old batteries.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So 20th century thinking.

South Australia's Virtual Power Plant | Our Energy Plan

OH great. So in 7 years everyone has huge batteries that need disposal and you're stuck buying a replacement for $$$$$$

Really? Ever hear the term recycling? And the 100 MW/Hr battery in Australia will have payed for itself in less than a year. So if they operate it for seven years, they will be able to afford a 600 MW/Hr battery. And have the profit from the metals recovered from the old batteries.

Ever hear who pays for it?

Turn in your car battery and let me know what you pay to replace it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

No, nuclear can never be a backup for anything because they must run continuously. Ever tried to start a nuclear reactor? It takes a while.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Britain’s gone nine days with almost no wind generation, and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting for another two weeks.

The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest level for the time of year for at least a decade. Apart from a surge expected around June 14, wind levels are forecast to stay low for the next fortnight, according to The Weather Company.

Prolonged Wind Drought Crushes British Turbine Output

Days without wind.
Days without sun.

And you're back in the Stone Age if the envirowhackos get their way.

That's why there are gas and nuclear backup systems.

OH, so now we need to maintain hundreds of billions of dollars of capital equipment to sit idle for just in case?

The left have no clue about economics.

No, you have no clue about how to reliably supply power.

I think he pretty much has it nailed. You, on the other hand, fit that description to a "T"!