We are definitely looking at potential campaign finance violations implicating Trump

[Kosh]

NYT: FBI seized tape of Trump discussing Playboy model payment

Full Rocah: Any recording is 'a smoking gun'

As if Trump didn't have enough problems with potential conspiracy and obstruction charges related to Russia, we now have breaking news of a Trump /Cohen taped conversation about campaign hush money that was paid to Karen Mcdougal through David Pecker and the National Enquirer.

Of course the ever present Trump's bs lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is claiming this is exculpatory because it was paid by someone else, is total nonsense. The fact that the two even had a conversation about it, on tape, and that someone else made the payment, still implicates Trump as potentially being guilty of illegal campaign finance violations. Which by the way, to go along with the Stormy Daniels case, proves that this will probably go down as an illegal election, by using campaign finance contributions during a presidential election.

Sorry, no. Campaign laws will not cover this as Alan Dershowitz and other lawyers have already explained.

Really? And the explanation is?

Here...

Critics of the president claim this not only was a campaign expense that should have been reported but a potentially illegal loan by Cohen. But the settlement was ultimately paid out of Trump’s personal funds and had nothing to do with the campaign since their alleged one-night stand occurred 10 years before the campaign.

No reasonable member of a jury would consider this to be a campaign-related expense that needed to be reported, or to which any other campaign finance rules in the Federal Election Campaign Act apply.

How do we know? Because the Justice Department tried out a similar theory once before with facts much more favorable. In the Edwards case, campaign donors made payments to Edwards’ mistress, Rielle Hunter, a videographer who was specifically hired to help his presidential campaign.

Unlike the Daniels situation, Hunter was paid up to $1 million while directly working for the campaign and Edwards.

The government’s legal theory in that case was that these were campaign-related payments, even though they did not go through the Edwards campaign’s accounts because they were intended to protect Edwards’ reputation during his presidential run. Sound familiar?

Yet a jury acquitted Edwards on one charge of accepting an illegal campaign donation and failed to reach a verdict—resulting in a mistrial—on the other charges, which included filing false reports with the Federal Election Commission for not listing the payments to his mistress.

In other words, the government was unable to convince the jury that these were campaign-related expenses covered by federal campaign finance law. The Justice Department subsequently dropped its prosecution and never retried Edwards—in part, no doubt, because many campaign finance experts called the case “legally flawed,” according to a Politico report in 2012.

I was of the opinion at the time that the government potentially could make a case if it could show the payments were “campaign-related” based on the fact that Hunter was actually working for the campaign and was being paid by donors. But in what was a case of first impression, that argument was not accepted as reasonable by a jury.

The alleged one-night stand between Daniels and Trump is far more of a stretch.

Daniels had no connection to the presidential campaign of any kind and the encounter—if it occurred—didn’t happen during the campaign itself. In any event, even if the Daniels payment were to be considered a campaign-related expense, unlike Edwards, the nominal $130,000 payment wasn’t made by Trump campaign donors but by Trump’s personal attorney (not the campaign’s attorney) with whom he has a long-standing business relationship.


Rudy Giuliani Is Right: Settlement With Stormy Daniels Didn’t Violate Campaign Finance Law

Oh, I get it. You switch the topic, because you are too much of a coward to debate the real one in play. STAY ON TOPIC LOSER.

So far you have no proof of anything you claim..

We know the far left posts known bunk and expects others to prove them wrong!

Instead you are running with a debunked far left religious narrative that is not based in fact!

 

[Darkwind]

NYT: FBI seized tape of Trump discussing Playboy model payment

Full Rocah: Any recording is 'a smoking gun'

As if Trump didn't have enough problems with potential conspiracy and obstruction charges related to Russia, we now have breaking news of a Trump /Cohen taped conversation about campaign hush money that was paid to Karen Mcdougal through David Pecker and the National Enquirer.

Of course the ever present Trump's bs lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is claiming this is exculpatory because it was paid by someone else, is total nonsense. The fact that the two even had a conversation about it, on tape, and that someone else made the payment, still implicates Trump as potentially being guilty of illegal campaign finance violations. Which by the way, to go along with the Stormy Daniels case, proves that this will probably go down as an illegal election, by using campaign finance contributions during a presidential election.

Do you guys have a list or something? You just keep checking the next item in the hopes that you can get someone....anyone....to believe you?

 

[Defiant1]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

 

[Moonglow]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

She's in it for the free ride, and irrelevant.

Well, you might say she's the Madam of Trump's stable?

 

[Moonglow]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

Not at all I used to do it also...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

 

[Kosh]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

And yet none of the facts on the ground match up with your desperate fantasies...I remain unmoved by your public masturbation...

 

[WTP]

Check this n00b midterm shill out!

Hey dumbass. I'll call it right now, which is dangerous, because November is a long ways off.

Right now: Republican landslide.

Leftists will have the worst butthurt ever!

It's good to know that this "whatever party", has no principles, no values, no integrity, no honesty, no decency, and no anything really. I take solace however in knowing, that the majority of people still love this country, and stand by its principles of respecting the "Constitution", and "we the people".

 

[Defiant1]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

Not at all I used to do it also...

Do you mean there was a time when you were normal?

 

[Moonglow]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

Not at all I used to do it also...

Do you mean there was a time when you were normal?

I still do it but with less gusto..

 

[Kosh]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

And yet none of the facts on the ground match up with your desperate fantasies...I remain unmoved by your public masturbation...

Exactly the far left can not accept reality and deal with the fact that Hilary is worse than Trump.

They have to invent theses things, in hopes that Hilary will just be installed as president, which will never happen no matter what.

You far left drones need to accept the fact that Trump is and will still be president.

 

[Moonglow]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

She was definitely smoother at it..

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

And yet none of the facts on the ground match up with your desperate fantasies...I remain unmoved by your public masturbation...

Exactly the far left can not accept reality and deal with the fact that Hilary is worse than Trump.

They have to invent theses things, in hopes that Hilary will just be installed as president, which will never happen no matter what.

You far left drones need to accept the fact that Trump is and will still be president.

Gee, all of that desperate taffy pulling will come in real handy for Trump's defense, right?

Sorry, but the real world isn't like the fantasy in your head.

 

[Kosh]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

She was definitely smoother at it..

Maybe to a far left drone that thinks Hilary is innocent!

 

[Kosh]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

And yet none of the facts on the ground match up with your desperate fantasies...I remain unmoved by your public masturbation...

Exactly the far left can not accept reality and deal with the fact that Hilary is worse than Trump.

They have to invent theses things, in hopes that Hilary will just be installed as president, which will never happen no matter what.

You far left drones need to accept the fact that Trump is and will still be president.

Gee, all of that desperate taffy pulling will come in real handy for Trump's defense, right?

Sorry, but the real world isn't like the fantasy in your head.

Oh these far left drones and their irony impaired comments!

See they really believe that Muller will just install Hilary as president. They really do believe it!

 

[WTP]

Then there is this...

Based on what we know, the Federal Election Campaign Act wasn’t meant to cover something like this, which is why the Edwards prosecution failed. The Federal Election Commission, where I served as a commissioner and which is responsible for enforcing the law, wouldn’t find a violation based on the facts that are known.

If special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating this based on a supposed campaign finance violation, he is definitely overreaching, just as the Justice Department did in the Edwards case.

Unless, of course, Mueller is actually investigating Daniels for possibly violating the federal extortion statute (18 U.S.C. §875), which makes it a felony for anyone to extort money by sending a communication that threatens to injure the “reputation” of another.

Lol! Mueller isn't looking at it. The SDNY is.

 

[Moonglow]

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

She was definitely smoother at it..

Maybe to a far left drone that thinks Hilary is innocent!

Her mouth don't shoot off like Trump's, he has a hair trigger.

 

[WTP]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

Exactly how has it been debunked?

 

[Kosh]

Don't worry, Trump had a different whore every year, eventually, he'll get caught, at least his wife doesn't seem to mind..

If Melania doesn't care how is he going to get caught?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Jealous?

Exactly there is nothing to rebut against the far left accusations.

And yet Trump's lawyers are scrambling....maybe they need a bubble head cheerleader like you around to lift their spirits...

See how the far left still pushes the debunked narrative?

Fact is Hilary is worse than Trump and soon as you far left drones accept it, the better the world will be.

Exactly how has it been debunked?

All the far left narratives have been debunked.

None of you have any real proof of anything you post! You just push the debunked far left narratives without question or hesitation.

Just need the far left to grow and admit they were wrong and that Hilary is worse than Trump.