Way to go Congress!

[jeffrockit]

IMO this quote from the Neal Boortz column is exactly what happens with the passage of the largest government takeover ever:

Never in the history of the United States has the Congress ever passed a law which required any citizen to enter into a contract with another citizen or a private business against their will ...... Never, that is, until now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama has no respect for the Constitution, to him it's a worthless scrap of paper.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed to be an American

 

[VaYank5150]

Still whining....good grief.

 

[masquerade]

I keep going back to why voters didn't do their homework during the Presidential campaign. BHO, the most liberal of Senators runs for the office of the President, yet so many of the voters never bothered to research his past on thier own. I put much of the blame on the lamestream media who fed the viewers one positive story after another. Never bothering to dig deep into what makes Obama tick. But yet they found out every single detail about Bush. Pft. Go figure. Gadda love double standards.

They saw a charismatic, articulate candidate who was not Bush.

What the hell is happening to personal responsibility in this country??????

 

[Truthmatters]

Its make everyone pay for healthcare or Do what we have been doing letting people have free care at others expense.

Everyone will be treated in a emergency situation. Some will have no healthcare to pay for this and will never pay the bill even though they could afford to pay for policy.

Those costs dont just dissapear, they go on other peoples bills.

 

[California Girl]

Its make everyone pay for healthcare or Do what we have been doing letting people have free care at others expense.

Everyone will be treated in a emergency situation. Some will have no healthcare to pay for this and will never pay the bill even though they could afford to pay for policy.

Those costs dont just dissapear, they go on other peoples bills.

Congratulation on totally missing the actual point and falling back on the 'talking points'.

The point: The Government cannot mandate that any American BUY something.

 

[masquerade]

It's clearly unconstitutional to force people to buy insurance. If the government can force you to buy insurance as a condition of citizenship, why couldn't the Congress just as easily write a bill forcing you to buy a car from GM?

John Hawkins - The Five Keys To Killing Obamacare

 

[ba1614]

Its make everyone pay for healthcare or Do what we have been doing letting people have free care at others expense.

Everyone will be treated in a emergency situation. Some will have no healthcare to pay for this and will never pay the bill even though they could afford to pay for policy.

Those costs dont just dissapear, they go on other peoples bills.

Congratulation on totally missing the actual point and falling back on the 'talking points'.

The point: The Government cannot mandate that any American BUY something.

That simple fuck won't ever grasp the magnitude of such an action.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I keep going back to why voters didn't do their homework during the Presidential campaign. BHO, the most liberal of Senators runs for the office of the President, yet so many of the voters never bothered to research his past on thier own. I put much of the blame on the lamestream media who fed the viewers one positive story after another. Never bothering to dig deep into what makes Obama tick. But yet they found out every single detail about Bush. Pft. Go figure. Gadda love double standards.

They saw a charismatic, articulate candidate who was not Bush.

What the hell is happening to personal responsibility in this country??????

The McCain Campaign just figured out Obama was a Liberal and is angry that Sarah Palin didn't point it out sooner

 

[Vanquish]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

0-4

back to the batting cage

 

[AquaAthena]

Obama has no respect for the Constitution, to him it's a worthless scrap of paper.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed to be an American

He thought it to be a document of "negative liberties." That is how he taught it, too.

 

[Vanquish]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

0-4

back to the batting cage

Care to actually respond...or you supporting yourself with hot air? You can't just say "WRONG!" then not back it up.

Well you can...but you'd be WRONG!

Oh by the way...read these 27 pages of legal backup for it's constitutionality...

Scholarship @ GEORGETOWN LAW - Mark A. Hall: The Constitutionality of Mandates to Purchase Health Insurance

I'm sure you wont...but at least admit you wont.

 

[US Army Retired]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

So why is there language in the bill that states the Amish are exempt from buying ObamaCare?

 

[Vel]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

Under Obama's scheme can you DROP the insurance you're now carrying and decide to not have insurance? If not, then you are indeed being FORCED to buy something.

You can't TAX someone just for being alive. At least not under the U.S. constitution.

States have a CHOICE as to whether they want federal benefits or the federal yoke.

Car insurance is only required is you choose to exercise the privelege of operating a motor vehicle.

 

[Vanquish]

And Federal Income tax? Can you choose not to pay that?

 

[Truthmatters]

Ok for all of you saying that being forced to buy healthcare is unconstitutional..

1. You get to keep the insurance you're buying by choice now. So YOURE not forced to buy anything.

2. What the HELL do you think a TAX is? A tax is the government legally telling you to pay up. For example, if Congress chose to require individuals to have health insurance by levying a tax, then using the revenue for funding health benefits, this could be viewed as an appropriate use of Congress's taxing and spending power.

3. Congress's Spending Clause authority is used like this all the time - say for highway funds. While the Court has recognized that Congress cannot force states to take certain courses of action because of state sovereignty protected under the Tenth Amendment, the conditioning of funds can be a legitimate inducement to get states to follow the will of Congress. Thus, if Congress were to grant federal funds to states that enacted laws which required individuals to purchase health insurance, this type of law would likely be considered a legitimate use of Congress's spending clause authority.

4. And aren't you forgetting mandated car insurance?

So why is there language in the bill that states the Amish are exempt from buying ObamaCare?

Because their religion refuses the use of modern healthcare that involves machinery.

 

[WillowTree]

I keep going back to why voters didn't do their homework during the Presidential campaign. BHO, the most liberal of Senators runs for the office of the President, yet so many of the voters never bothered to research his past on thier own. I put much of the blame on the lamestream media who fed the viewers one positive story after another. Never bothering to dig deep into what makes Obama tick. But yet they found out every single detail about Bush. Pft. Go figure. Gadda love double standards.

They saw a charismatic, articulate candidate who was not Bush.

What the hell is happening to personal responsibility in this country??????

that's a term unfamiliar in the libtard vocabulary..

 

[Misty]

IMO this quote from the Neal Boortz column is exactly what happens with the passage of the largest government takeover ever:

Never in the history of the United States has the Congress ever passed a law which required any citizen to enter into a contract with another citizen or a private business against their will ...... Never, that is, until now.

we are required to buy car insurance. They've been chipping away at our freedoms little by little all along.

 

[masquerade]

I keep going back to why voters didn't do their homework during the Presidential campaign. BHO, the most liberal of Senators runs for the office of the President, yet so many of the voters never bothered to research his past on thier own. I put much of the blame on the lamestream media who fed the viewers one positive story after another. Never bothering to dig deep into what makes Obama tick. But yet they found out every single detail about Bush. Pft. Go figure. Gadda love double standards.

They saw a charismatic, articulate candidate who was not Bush.

What the hell is happening to personal responsibility in this country??????

that's a term unfamiliar in the libtard vocabulary..

Yeah, I've come to that realization. ( rolling eyes )