Water rights

Tommy Tainant

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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.


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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
Not in America. Nor the UK for that matter.
The UN recognizes it as one, however both of our countries abstained from voting on the issue.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
And how much taxes do the English people pay, just so the Royal Family can continue to have offspring with a silver spoon shoved up their asses? What do those "royals" produce again?
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
i THINK YOU NEED TO STOP WORRYING about our country and focus on your own,,,
you guys are after all confiscating spoons as dangerous objects,,,
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
Not in America. Nor the UK for that matter.
The UN recognizes it as one, however both of our countries abstained from voting on the issue.
The Tories privatised our water companies a few years back and now they are mostly owned by foreign state owned companies. Which is a bit ironic. Nothing much has changed apart from the cost to the consumer going up. But the profits now go overseas rather than invested back in the service.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?

It's the usual hit piece on bottled water. They use a scary title and then waffle on the main points as the article goes on.

This has ZERO to do with Flint, which used surface water as opposed to ground/spring water as the case with Nestle.

Maybe they pumped more than the aquifer could handle at one point, but the government did its job and regulated that.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
I dont know about Flint but they pay very little for the water. As water is a community asset its sale should generate some community benefit.
We have the same situation in Wales where English water companies drain off Welsh water for pretty much nothing.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
we should be upgrading infrastructure not wasting our tax monies on the general warfare.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
I dont know about Flint but they pay very little for the water. As water is a community asset its sale should generate some community benefit.
We have the same situation in Wales where English water companies drain off Welsh water for pretty much nothing.

You don't know FUCK about water in Michigan.

I have no problem with laws being applied equally to everyone. We have argued this among ourselves, the international and national socialists have tried to brainwash folks into charging Nestle and other bottlers. And you know what, fine. If they want to do that, then they charge EVERYONE for groundwater, spring-water, or lakewater use.

But as soon as you suggest doing that? The liberals get offended. They want to have double standards as to who gets charged for water usage.

You know why? Because the liberals at the grass roots in this state meet at all of the micro-brews. And those use a lot of free water, just like the spring water bottling companies. Just like the small farmers. So what, should we charge the corporate farms, but not small farms? Charge the corporate bottlers but not micro-brews? :dunno: Different law for different people, is that it? This is a familiar sounding song.

Every home owner that owns a well, and every farmer that waters his crops also benefits from the abundance of water in this state.

There is a rule, limiting the amount of water that can be transported for sale outside of the G. Lakes water basin, either on a tanker or in bottles per annum to Asia. It is measured, recorded and restricted, so both the states and Canada can keep track and guard the health of the G. lakes water basin. Did you even know that?

I really don't think you have any idea what you are talking about beyond your socialist, big government brainwashing.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.
Not in America. Nor the UK for that matter.
The UN recognizes it as one, however both of our countries abstained from voting on the issue.
The states and Canada have a compact to protect the water of the Great Lakes.

It isn't perfect, and the Canadians are pieces of shit. . . but it works most of the time.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
I dont know about Flint but they pay very little for the water. As water is a community asset its sale should generate some community benefit.
We have the same situation in Wales where English water companies drain off Welsh water for pretty much nothing.

You don't know FUCK about water in Michigan.

I have no problem with laws being applied equally to everyone. We have argued this among ourselves, the international and national socialists have tried to brainwash folks into charging Nestle and other bottlers. And you know what, fine. If they want to do that, then they charge EVERYONE for groundwater, spring-water, or lakewater use.

But as soon as you suggest doing that? The liberals get offended. They want to have double standards as to who gets charged for water usage.

You know why? Because the liberals at the grass roots in this state meet at all of the micro-brews. And those use a lot of free water, just like the spring water bottling companies. Just like the small farmers. So what, should we charge the corporate farms, but not small farms? Charge the corporate bottlers but not micro-brews? :dunno: Different law for different people, is that it? This is a familiar sounding song.

Every home owner that owns a well, and every farmer that waters his crops also benefits from the abundance of water in this state.

There is a rule, limiting the amount of water that can be transported for sale outside of the G. Lakes water basin, either on a tanker or in bottles per annum to Asia. It is measured, recorded and restricted, so both the states and Canada can keep track and guard the health of the G. lakes water basin. Did you even know that?

I really don't think you have any idea what you are talking about beyond your socialist, big government brainwashing.
I do understand this. Nestle pays 200 dollars for water it sells for $343m . Nice for Nestle.
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
I dont know about Flint but they pay very little for the water. As water is a community asset its sale should generate some community benefit.
We have the same situation in Wales where English water companies drain off Welsh water for pretty much nothing.

You don't know FUCK about water in Michigan.

I have no problem with laws being applied equally to everyone. We have argued this among ourselves, the international and national socialists have tried to brainwash folks into charging Nestle and other bottlers. And you know what, fine. If they want to do that, then they charge EVERYONE for groundwater, spring-water, or lakewater use.

But as soon as you suggest doing that? The liberals get offended. They want to have double standards as to who gets charged for water usage.

You know why? Because the liberals at the grass roots in this state meet at all of the micro-brews. And those use a lot of free water, just like the spring water bottling companies. Just like the small farmers. So what, should we charge the corporate farms, but not small farms? Charge the corporate bottlers but not micro-brews? :dunno: Different law for different people, is that it? This is a familiar sounding song.

Every home owner that owns a well, and every farmer that waters his crops also benefits from the abundance of water in this state.

There is a rule, limiting the amount of water that can be transported for sale outside of the G. Lakes water basin, either on a tanker or in bottles per annum to Asia. It is measured, recorded and restricted, so both the states and Canada can keep track and guard the health of the G. lakes water basin. Did you even know that?

I really don't think you have any idea what you are talking about beyond your socialist, big government brainwashing.
I do understand this. Nestle pays 200 dollars for water it sells for $343m . Nice for Nestle.
How many jobs does it provide? How much for retirees investment income? How much for the growth and investment in the community and the stewardship of the environment? DO you think this company would dare let this resource dwindle or be spoiled?

Caring for Michigan's Water Resources

Where was the government when the residents of Flint were poisoned?

Nestlé donates drinking water to help schoolchildren in Flint, Michigan
https://www.nestle.com/media/news/nestle-drinking-water-donation-schoolchildren-flint-michigan

Nestle water donation to Flint equals 1.6 million more bottles
Nestle water donation to Flint equals 1.6 million more bottles - mlive.com

Where is the government now?

Begging for the companies charity.

Since we began providing approximately 100,000 bottles of water per week to three Flint Help Centers in May 2018, we have worked closely with the state, Mayor Weaver, non-governmental organizations and the Flint community to understand how we can best help meet their needs, and we have offered to continue our bottled water donations through the end of August 2019.

From May 2018 through the end of August 2019, we will have donated over 6.5 million bottles of water to the Help Centers.


Flint Mayor Karen Weaver had the following to say about the announcement:

"I am grateful to Nestle for honoring my request to extend supplying bottled water to our help centers through August. After some conversation, we were able to solidify a few more months of water donation."
Nestle to continue Flint water donations through August

Compared to the amount the State government receives in taxes, don't you think $340 million is a paltry sum for these services?
 
Honestly, if it weren't for Nestle, me and my child would have had to drink the government's fluoridated community water. . . .

Then, who knows, I might be as dumb and as easily programmable as Tommy. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Lol.....how do you even respond to something this st00pid?

As I've said in here....we have a couple of dozen board members who desperately need some meaningful responsibilities in life. When you post up something like this, you have waaaaaaaaaaay too much idle time on your hands.:113:
 
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The Michigan operation is only one small part of Nestlé, the world’s largest food and beverage company. But it illuminates how Nestlé has come to dominate a controversial industry, spring by spring, often going into economically depressed municipalities with the promise of jobs and new infrastructure in exchange for tax breaks and access to a resource that’s scarce for millions. Where Nestlé encounters grass-roots resistance against its industrial-strength guzzling, it deploys lawyers; where it’s welcome, it can push the limits of that hospitality, sometimes with the acquiescence of state and local governments that are too cash-strapped or inept to say no. There are the usual costs of doing business, including transportation, infrastructure, and salaries. But Nestlé pays little for the product it bottles—sometimes a municipal rate and other times just a nominal extraction fee. In Michigan, it’s $200.

Scary stuff. Is water a right ? I would say so.

Tommy,

Is this saying Nestle gets plenty of welfare from local governments and doesn't pay enough for the water it uses?

Is there a tie in with Flint here?
I dont know about Flint but they pay very little for the water. As water is a community asset its sale should generate some community benefit.
We have the same situation in Wales where English water companies drain off Welsh water for pretty much nothing.

You don't know FUCK about water in Michigan.

I have no problem with laws being applied equally to everyone. We have argued this among ourselves, the international and national socialists have tried to brainwash folks into charging Nestle and other bottlers. And you know what, fine. If they want to do that, then they charge EVERYONE for groundwater, spring-water, or lakewater use.

But as soon as you suggest doing that? The liberals get offended. They want to have double standards as to who gets charged for water usage.

You know why? Because the liberals at the grass roots in this state meet at all of the micro-brews. And those use a lot of free water, just like the spring water bottling companies. Just like the small farmers. So what, should we charge the corporate farms, but not small farms? Charge the corporate bottlers but not micro-brews? :dunno: Different law for different people, is that it? This is a familiar sounding song.

Every home owner that owns a well, and every farmer that waters his crops also benefits from the abundance of water in this state.

There is a rule, limiting the amount of water that can be transported for sale outside of the G. Lakes water basin, either on a tanker or in bottles per annum to Asia. It is measured, recorded and restricted, so both the states and Canada can keep track and guard the health of the G. lakes water basin. Did you even know that?

I really don't think you have any idea what you are talking about beyond your socialist, big government brainwashing.
I do understand this. Nestle pays 200 dollars for water it sells for $343m . Nice for Nestle.
What is really sad about Tommy is in his country, their taxes of 75% ends up going to Royals who suck up pretty much most of those taxes. But lets talk about the water and why it is working. So Nestle pays 200 dollars for water, then sells it making $343 million dollars(show Dr Evil with small finger next to lips). Why is it that people buy such water thus having Nestle make so much money? I mean if the water didnt satisfy the people who bought it, then there wouldn't be a market for it, right? And what do the Royals produce for the people again? A lot of CO2...….

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