CDZ Water bottles and sticks will soon give way to firearms and IED's

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What is the solution to this breach of the peace

  1. Invoke Art. I, Sec. 9, clause 2

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  2. Federalize the National Guard

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  3. Outlaw all weapons from all approved political rally's or guest speaking events

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  4. Outlaw all symbols, flags and other forms of expression form political events

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  1. Wry Catcher
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    As usual you are full of shit. Why don't you spend your time proving you have this right, and walk into a police or sheriff's office and pull out a push button and tell the first LEO you see it's your right to have this weapon.
     
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    Molotov's 100%. But even a chair leg can be turned into a club, plus a bunch of things one can find on a street.
     
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    if the police ban such items and don't prevent others from showing up with them. then the police become 100% ,liable, no qualified immunity. You have a left wing group that publicly states they will use force to prevent speech and rallys they decree to be "nazi".
     
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    Why would the police choose not to apply the same rules to everyone? Of course with a mass of people, profiling becomes essential, thus someone carrying Nazi
    symbolism or BLM, etc. will be more closely watched and examined.

    Liability applies if and only if there is negligence. Given the force of LE in Boston, one can be sure its success will be provided each time the neo nazi / neo fascists miscreants choose to use hate speech in a public forum.

     
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    When you are dealing with the permitted side of the protest, you are dealing with people who are getting there ahead of time, assembling at a specific point, and either staying there or marching to another specific point by a specific route.

    Counter-protesters, especially those without permits, cannot be so determined. they can show up en masse, or in penny packet groups from multiple directions. The police have to be ready for this, and if they enforced any disarmament provisions on the permitted protesters, they then become 100% responsible for their safety, and at a minimum the city becomes liable if anyone enters their area armed and causes harm.

    And as for the Boston free speech rally, why are you, like the MSM, linking it to White power idiots? Do you have any evidence the Boston rally contained neo nazis/neo fascists?
     
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    I believe the FBI should investigate and even infiltrate all the groups involved. Determine who the leaders are and what their (non public) agendas are. Then, either bring them down with RICO laws or bring them into negotiations. If Israel and Palestine can be 'brought to the table' any other groups can too.
     
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    Make legal for anyone to carry a gun anywhere.
     
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    Obama started this fire, let him put it out

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    Sure, I agree there is nothing one can do about people trained to use improvised weapons, but most people dont have that training, hell or any training at all as far as that goes, so you would achieve the goal of reducing the potential harm exponentially.
     
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    If and only if both sides are disarmed equally. You disarm the permitted rally than then the counter-protesters show up armed and in ways or numbers the police can't control and you may have a slaughter on your hands.
     
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