Watching SpaceX Reminds Me of the 60’s Space Program

Is there anything out there worth commercial exploitation? ...

It's largely forgotten today, but NASA's space program had the secondary mission of designing and testing ICBM's ... we really couldn't launch a missile into Soviet territory, so the next best thing was launching missiles into orbit ... the theory being if we can get the momentum for orbit, then we had enough momentum to hit the USSR ...

NASA's dirty little secret is the only science that can be performed on the ISS is how to perform science on the ISS ... there's very little we can learn up there otherwise ... and the costs of maintaining a habitable environment in space is way too expensive for what little profit can be had ... tax-payer dollars are still driving the industry, if it wasn't for bus service to the ISS, there'd be no money at all for human transport into space ... robotics is getting good enough to perform any task above low Earth orbit ...
 
Except NASA has zero Mars missions and a 50% success rate on past missions.
Which is the norm for Mars missions, and one thing that makes a manned mission so risky. Again, by the time SpaceX makes its rocket that can, hopefully, do what NASA rockets from the 60s did, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars.
 
Except NASA has zero Mars missions and a 50% success rate on past missions.
Which is the norm for Mars missions, and one thing that makes a manned mission so risky. Again, by the time SpaceX makes its rocket that can, hopefully, do what NASA rockets from the 60s did, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars.
NASA has lost its way. Its to expensive with to much political influence, corruption, cronyism, political correctness and quotas. So much so that it willbe at least a decade before the SLS rocket and Orion space capsule are launched which was supposed to be a few years. The SLS is based on the Shuttle liquid and solid rocket boosters. They lied. As of now the rumor is that it will cost between 1.5 and 2.5 billion just to bring the SLS to the launch pad. It was supposed to cost a few hudred million. we were told it was to be much cheaper because it was based on current technology. They lied. So many rues and regulations that even Obama gave the go ahead for Elon Musk and Boeing to develop man rated low earth capsules without all of the NASA restrictions. The older generation was smarter. If we stop going to Mars in unmanned craft or other places we will lose that ability quickly. And the costs to relearn things will be astronomical. Going to Mars in manned missions for 30 billion dollars? Who started that one? To placate the broads its going to cost that to just orbit the moon again.
 
Except NASA has zero Mars missions and a 50% success rate on past missions.
Which is the norm for Mars missions, and one thing that makes a manned mission so risky. Again, by the time SpaceX makes its rocket that can, hopefully, do what NASA rockets from the 60s did, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars.
NASA has lost its way. Its to expensive with to much political influence, corruption, cronyism, political correctness and quotas. So much so that it willbe at least a decade before the SLS rocket and Orion space capsule are launched which was supposed to be a few years. The SLS is based on the Shuttle liquid and solid rocket boosters. They lied. As of now the rumor is that it will cost between 1.5 and 2.5 billion just to bring the SLS to the launch pad. It was supposed to cost a few hudred million. we were told it was to be much cheaper because it was based on current technology. They lied. So many rues and regulations that even Obama gave the go ahead for Elon Musk and Boeing to develop man rated low earth capsules without all of the NASA restrictions. The older generation was smarter. If we stop going to Mars in unmanned craft or other places we will lose that ability quickly. And the costs to relearn things will be astronomical. Going to Mars in manned missions for 30 billion dollars? Who started that one? To placate the broads its going to cost that to just orbit the moon again.
The 2014 cost estimate for SLS was $4 billion.

SoaceX has also dealt with constant setback's and cost overruns. That's life.

NASA is doing amazing things. Like I said, by the time SpaceX gets operational with it's huge overruns and setback's, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars

Awesome.
 
Except NASA has zero Mars missions and a 50% success rate on past missions.
Which is the norm for Mars missions, and one thing that makes a manned mission so risky. Again, by the time SpaceX makes its rocket that can, hopefully, do what NASA rockets from the 60s did, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars.
NASA has lost its way. Its to expensive with to much political influence, corruption, cronyism, political correctness and quotas. So much so that it willbe at least a decade before the SLS rocket and Orion space capsule are launched which was supposed to be a few years. The SLS is based on the Shuttle liquid and solid rocket boosters. They lied. As of now the rumor is that it will cost between 1.5 and 2.5 billion just to bring the SLS to the launch pad. It was supposed to cost a few hudred million. we were told it was to be much cheaper because it was based on current technology. They lied. So many rues and regulations that even Obama gave the go ahead for Elon Musk and Boeing to develop man rated low earth capsules without all of the NASA restrictions. The older generation was smarter. If we stop going to Mars in unmanned craft or other places we will lose that ability quickly. And the costs to relearn things will be astronomical. Going to Mars in manned missions for 30 billion dollars? Who started that one? To placate the broads its going to cost that to just orbit the moon again.
The 2014 cost estimate for SLS was $4 billion.

SoaceX has also dealt with constant setback's and cost overruns. That's life.

NASA is doing amazing things. Like I said, by the time SpaceX gets operational with it's huge overruns and setback's, NASA will be analyzing samples it brought back from Mars

Awesome.
SpaceX is operational and NASA can neither get a man into space nor does it have anything more than a repeat of old technology to Mars. At taxpayers expense.
 
The big difference is SpaceX isn't controlled by a bloated government bureaucracy like NASA. Private industry is the future of space travel.
 
Unlike NASA, who must rely upon Russia, SpaceX can get humans into space
So, you meant operational in just that specific capacity. Gotcha.

NASA, of course, given the resources, could do that as well. As we know from 50 years of watching them do it.

When is SpaceX returning samples from Mars? You know, knowledge we don't already have.
 
Unlike NASA, who must rely upon Russia, SpaceX can get humans into space
So, you meant operational in just that specific capacity. Gotcha.

NASA, of course, given the resources, could do that as well. As we know from 50 years of watching them do it.

When is SpaceX returning samples from Mars? You know, knowledge we don't already have.
Uh, no. NASA could not get a man in space now if it had to.
 

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