Watch out it's coming, The political elite are going to take your rights away

[bigrebnc1775]

In the name of protecting you they will imprison you without charge withoout reason if this bill passes.

Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window

While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.

Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.

Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a


SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.
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An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.
Text of S.3081 as Introduced in Senate: Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010... OpenCongress

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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[bigrebnc1775]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

 

[bitterlyclingin]

That along with the impending imposition of rigid government controls on the internet, the continued existence of Obama's Private Army in places like Zuccotti Park, LA, Boston, Philadelphia is worrisome. It very much looks like a pincer movement intended to stifle dissent by the American People is being put in place.

 

[Full-Auto]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

I knew as a young child the government will do what it wants when it wants, even if it means killing you.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

They are not going to be, Reb, even though the possibility may exist. Did Hitler disavow his Brownshirts, his SA? Not until 1937, when it became politically expedient for him to do so. Obama's warm, enthusiastic reception of his re emerging Brownshirts is the clue. He probably knew far in advance of September 17th they were coming. Van Jones alluded to their actions as far back as last Spring and the SEIU's Stephen Lerner even laid out their action plan, also last Spring. Obama's forte is Community Agitator is it not?
"Birds of a feather"

 

[Conservative]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

you are a colossal moron if you believe that.

determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War

and

may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported

Article 5 of the Geneva Convention applies to POW's, dip-shit. The OWS protestors are not POW's.

And which 'hostilities against the United States or it's coalition partners' have the OWS protestors been part of?

You're just spouting yet another one of your typical lies.

 

[Conservative]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

most likely both.

 

[zzzz]

Considering that a detainee who is a citizen of the US will not be given Miranda rights and be held indefinitely without a trial I would say that part of the bill would not make it past Supreme Court unconstitutional ruling. With all the lawyers in Congress you would think they would understand this. I particularly like that part where it says:

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:
(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.
(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.
(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

In the bill if passed America will be deemed a battlefield. Any civil unrest could be deemed a terrorist act

 

[Conservative]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

In the bill if passed America will be deemed a battlefield. Any civil unrest could be deemed a terrorist act

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

moron.

 

[Full-Auto]

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

In the bill if passed America will be deemed a battlefield. Any civil unrest could be deemed a terrorist act

You either didn't read the bill or you don't understand it.

moron.

(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.
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What do you think I dont understand about this.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Considering that a detainee who is a citizen of the US will not be given Miranda rights and be held indefinitely without a trial I would say that part of the bill would not make it past Supreme Court unconstitutional ruling. With all the lawyers in Congress you would think they would understand this. I particularly like that part where it says:

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:
(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.
(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.
(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

The fact that it's there and the Supreme court interprets laws could be viewed as an essential step in the war on terror. It could very well be allowed.

 

[Katzndogz]

Judging from the number of leftists that want to recreate the French Revolution, there could well be a battlefield in your front yard.

This law, though, is most likely directed against those like the man who wanted to turn Times Square into a battlefield.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

From the link I used a few words from supports of this bill

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”

 

[Ernie S.]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

you are a colossal moron if you believe that.

determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War

and

may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported

Article 5 of the Geneva Convention applies to POW's, dip-shit. The OWS protestors are not POW's.

And which 'hostilities against the United States or it's coalition partners' have the OWS protestors been part of?

You're just spouting yet another one of your typical lies.

Further, the bill defined High Value detainee:

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:

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(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.

(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.
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(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

Seeing it would take the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secretary of defense and the Attorney General to make the determination, I think OWS is safe.
COULD it be used to detain protesters? I suppose so. It it likely? No.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Judging from the number of leftists that want to recreate the French Revolution, there could well be a battlefield in your front yard.

This law, though, is most likely directed against those like the man who wanted to turn Times Square into a battlefield.

It's not just the leftist supporting this to sum it up it's the political elite democrat and republican.

 

[Conservative]

From the link I used a few words from supports of this bill

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”

Their opinions. Please note (link) the part of the actual bill that states specifically that the US is part of the battlefield.

Again... WHICH hostilities towards the US would the OWS protestors be deemed part of, dip-shit?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Under this bill OWS protesters could be deemed terrorist

you are a colossal moron if you believe that.


and


Article 5 of the Geneva Convention applies to POW's, dip-shit. The OWS protestors are not POW's.

And which 'hostilities against the United States or it's coalition partners' have the OWS protestors been part of?

You're just spouting yet another one of your typical lies.

Further, the bill defined High Value detainee:

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:

1
(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.

(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.
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(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

Seeing it would take the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secretary of defense and the Attorney General to make the determination, I think OWS is safe.
COULD it be used to detain protesters? I suppose so. It it likely? No.

It may or it may not be used? The very fact that it's written into a bill should be seen as outrageous.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Conservative fuck you I am not reading your post you are a support of the political elite.