Washington State privatizes liquor

[Luissa]

This is screwing small businesses, and is another win for corporations.
Washington State Voters Approve Law To Privatize Liquor Sales - Election HQ News Story - KXLY Spokane

Janell and Cal Farrer contract out with the state and have run a liquor store for four years in Liberty Lake. They're upset Costco was able to back another privatize initiative after the last two failed in the state.
"It really irritates me that Costco is allowed to just keep coming at us, coming at us until finally they win and then they're going to put all of these people all of us, me included, going to be in the unemployment line," Cal Farrer said.

Now that I-1183 is officially passed by 60-percent of the vote you will in the months to come see alcohol on the shelves of Costco and other stores over 10,000 square feet.

"Additionally, we know that Washington has one of the nation’s highest ‘no sales to minors’ compliance rates at 95 percent – compared to the private sector, which has a 76 percent compliance rate. "

It states some mini marts will be able to sell alcohol, I wonder how that will be decided?

I wasn't a big fan of privatizing it, but we are going to do it, at least not screw small business.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Interesting. On the surface it appears to be a win for free enterprise. Y'all need to push for a very open and transparent licensing process.

Washington State may yet loose its reputation among the drunks as a very expensive place to buy a bottle.

 

[jillian]

i wonder why righgwingers aren't yelling socialism bout government run package stores. hmmmm...

 

[editec]

STate monopolies on alcohold sales are a bad idea.

FWIW, so are state monopolies on marijuana sales.

 

[martybegan]

i wonder why righgwingers aren't yelling socialism bout government run package stores. hmmmm...

Mostly because it is actually in the consitution, via the 21st amendment, giving states and localities the right to regulate alcohol sales, a sacrifice made to repeal prohibition.

"The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited."

 

[Toro]

We have this in Canada. It is an absolute racket and ripoff. Distribution should be completely private.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

This is screwing small businesses, and is another win for corporations.
Washington State Voters Approve Law To Privatize Liquor Sales - Election HQ News Story - KXLY Spokane

Janell and Cal Farrer contract out with the state and have run a liquor store for four years in Liberty Lake. They're upset Costco was able to back another privatize initiative after the last two failed in the state.
"It really irritates me that Costco is allowed to just keep coming at us, coming at us until finally they win and then they're going to put all of these people all of us, me included, going to be in the unemployment line," Cal Farrer said.

Now that I-1183 is officially passed by 60-percent of the vote you will in the months to come see alcohol on the shelves of Costco and other stores over 10,000 square feet.

"Additionally, we know that Washington has one of the nation’s highest ‘no sales to minors’ compliance rates at 95 percent – compared to the private sector, which has a 76 percent compliance rate. "

It states some mini marts will be able to sell alcohol, I wonder how that will be decided?

I wasn't a big fan of privatizing it, but we are going to do it, at least not screw small business.

Capitalism is a bitch.

 

[Douger]

They voted for it, as usual.

 

[Si modo]

It's silly to have a monopoly, government or otherwise.

 

[8537]

We have state-owned liquor stores and it's absolutely stupid. To make matters worse, bars and restaurants can only buy from these state stores and can not use distributors.

And to make matters even worse, stores that sell liquor can't sell anything else - including beer.

But at least we can buy beer on Sundays!

 

[martybegan]

We have state-owned liquor stores and it's absolutely stupid. To make matters worse, bars and restaurants can only buy from these state stores and can not use distributors.

And to make matters even worse, stores that sell liquor can't sell anything else - including beer.

But at least we can buy beer on Sundays!

All of this is a residual of prohibition, and its repeal. The only way that the 21st amendment was going to get enough support on a federal level was to basically allow states to have total control over alcohol laws. Hell, in Kansas bars were illegal until the 1980's.

Remember that even with this, the amendment had to be ratified via state level consitutional conventions, because the legislatures were still under the waning control of the anti-saloon league and the WCTA

 

[editec]

Marty's got it.

The States ratified the repeal because they saw the potential to make dough by legalizing state monopolies.

NOW some of those states (like Maine) are creating MARIJUANA monopolies for exactly the same venal reason.

 

[8537]

We have state-owned liquor stores and it's absolutely stupid. To make matters worse, bars and restaurants can only buy from these state stores and can not use distributors.

And to make matters even worse, stores that sell liquor can't sell anything else - including beer.

But at least we can buy beer on Sundays!

All of this is a residual of prohibition, and its repeal. The only way that the 21st amendment was going to get enough support on a federal level was to basically allow states to have total control over alcohol laws. Hell, in Kansas bars were illegal until the 1980's.

Remember that even with this, the amendment had to be ratified via state level consitutional conventions, because the legislatures were still under the waning control of the anti-saloon league and the WCTA

Very interesting! Thanks. That probably explains why, back in the early 1990's, I had to buy a membership to have a beer at an Arkansas pub.

 

[martybegan]

Marty's got it.

The States ratified the repeal because they saw the potential to make dough by legalizing state monopolies.

NOW some of those states (like Maine) are creating MARIJUANA monopolies for exactly the same venal reason.

I think that was more of an eventual outcome than the original goal. Down south alot of people still beleived in the moral righteousness of prohibition, but realized the only thing it did on a federal level was lead to crime and disrespect of the law. Alot of states stayed dry for decades after the repeal of the volstead act. Only later did they realized they had a potential monopoly on thier hands.

In any event a monopoly is really not needed, as alcohol taxes are one of the most accepted "sin" taxes out there, and have been since the whiskey rebellion was quashed.

As for pot monopolization, if people really want it legalized, state monopoly may be something they just have to tolerate until they can get it more privatized. Baby steps, people.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We have state-owned liquor stores and it's absolutely stupid. To make matters worse, bars and restaurants can only buy from these state stores and can not use distributors.

And to make matters even worse, stores that sell liquor can't sell anything else - including beer.

But at least we can buy beer on Sundays!

All of this is a residual of prohibition, and its repeal. The only way that the 21st amendment was going to get enough support on a federal level was to basically allow states to have total control over alcohol laws. Hell, in Kansas bars were illegal until the 1980's.

Remember that even with this, the amendment had to be ratified via state level consitutional conventions, because the legislatures were still under the waning control of the anti-saloon league and the WCTA

Very interesting! Thanks. That probably explains why, back in the early 1990's, I had to buy a membership to have a beer at an Arkansas pub.

I had to buy one last year when I ate in Benton, Arkansas.

 

[Si modo]

Monopolies are inherently oppressive.

 

[Full-Auto]

This is screwing small businesses, and is another win for corporations.
Washington State Voters Approve Law To Privatize Liquor Sales - Election HQ News Story - KXLY Spokane

Janell and Cal Farrer contract out with the state and have run a liquor store for four years in Liberty Lake. They're upset Costco was able to back another privatize initiative after the last two failed in the state.
"It really irritates me that Costco is allowed to just keep coming at us, coming at us until finally they win and then they're going to put all of these people all of us, me included, going to be in the unemployment line," Cal Farrer said.

Now that I-1183 is officially passed by 60-percent of the vote you will in the months to come see alcohol on the shelves of Costco and other stores over 10,000 square feet.

"Additionally, we know that Washington has one of the nation’s highest ‘no sales to minors’ compliance rates at 95 percent – compared to the private sector, which has a 76 percent compliance rate. "

It states some mini marts will be able to sell alcohol, I wonder how that will be decided?

I wasn't a big fan of privatizing it, but we are going to do it, at least not screw small business.

1183 Passes.

YEAH BABY We finally have the Dem mob out of the liquor business.

 

[hortysir]

i wonder why righgwingers aren't yelling socialism bout government run package stores. hmmmm...

What was that????

The discussion had only been open 15 minutes, Jill.

Have you read the more recent replies?

 

[martybegan]

All of this is a residual of prohibition, and its repeal. The only way that the 21st amendment was going to get enough support on a federal level was to basically allow states to have total control over alcohol laws. Hell, in Kansas bars were illegal until the 1980's.

Remember that even with this, the amendment had to be ratified via state level consitutional conventions, because the legislatures were still under the waning control of the anti-saloon league and the WCTA

Very interesting! Thanks. That probably explains why, back in the early 1990's, I had to buy a membership to have a beer at an Arkansas pub.

I had to buy one last year when I ate in Benton, Arkansas.

Down south you can run into both dry counties, dry towns, and dry counties with wet towns inside of them.

 

[Inthemiddle]

I don't understand why these state liquor stores simply couldn't transition into private businesses.