Was the Civil War Worth 600,000 Dead Americans?

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Was the Civil War Worth 600,000 Dead Americans?

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  1. Publius1787
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    Was the Civil War Worth 600,000 Dead Americans Just to Preserve the Union?
     
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    No price is too high to pay when sweeping aside an outdated republic and instituting a centralised leviathan state.
     
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    I think it can be well determined that the South was defending and the North was attacking. Therefore, the context of the question could be regarded as was Lincoln's goal of unity worth wasting 600,000 lives.
     
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    I don't know how your assessment can be classified as "well determined" when it was the Southern states who seceded over the election of Lincoln and their well founded fears he would attempt to outlaw slavery and it was the Confederates troops who fired on Ft Sumner in the first shots fired in the war.
     
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    Who died as a result of Confederate bombardment at Fort Sumter? Who was captured/imprisoned? Besides, the shots at Fort Sumter were not the first shots of the war. Fort Sumter was just the event that Lincoln used to stoke nationalism, calls for war, and cover for raising an army without consent of congress and his suspension of habeas corpus. Lincoln refused to meet with the Southern Peace Commission before any shots were fired anyway. Lincoln wanted war. The South certainly did not.

    Now that I've established that no one died as a result of enemy fire on Fort Sumter, what was Fort Sumter's purpose? It’s purpose was to stop ships entering in to the Port of Charleston and enforce teriff law. Did you think that a recently seceded South Carolina was going to allow "foreign" taxation of their imports/goods? Can they enforce secession, a secession voted on by the people of South Carolina, if they are not soverign? Lincoln gave them no choice. He rejected their offer of peace, he rejected their peace commission, and he rejected their soverignty.
     
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    The United States will always be worth preserving.
     
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    Half the country votes to secede in peace and 600,000 deaths of her own citizens is justified in preserving it? Is that an emotional arguement or a logical one?
     
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    Yes it was worth it.
     
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    I can always click on the poll if I want to see what people think. What I want to know is the reasoning behind their poll choice.
     
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    Absolutely.

    Additionally..the North should have punished the South much worse then it did. Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee should have been publically disemboweled and their heads should have been put on pikes until they became desiccated fly blown husks. Then they should have been ground into powder and flushed into a sewer.
     

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