Was the 2012 Election Stolen?

[Wyld Kard]

No sane American will ever believe, based on the above, again that elections are stolen.

Really? Are you sure about that?

You most likely believe that the elections were probaly were run honestly and fairly and that Obama is an honest man with good intentions for the people of America.

If you believe that you are an Obama Ass-Kissing Drone who's drunk on Obama's Kool-Aid!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

No sane American will ever believe, based on the above, again that elections are stolen.

Really? Are you sure about that?

You most likely believe that the elections were probaly were run honestly and fairly and that Obama is an honest man with good intentions for the people of America.

If you believe that you are an Obama Ass-Kissing Drone who's drunk on Obama's Kool-Aid!

Based on his posts he always makes he probably believes vote fraud no longer exists and out government and congress our looking out for our best interests and the media is not a tool for the govenment and that bush did not steal either election either.

He has been so brainwashed and programmed by our corrupt school system he cant think for himself anymore.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I know voter fraud in the country is far less a threat to our freedoms than the conspiracy wacks like these guys.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

whiny bitch is obvious

According to the Left only when Republicans win are elections stolen. Why? Because the Dems didn't use enough fraudulent votes. Can anyone remember the whining coming from the Left about those hanging 'Chads'? Hmm... how's your chad hanging today?

 

[mamooth]

Back on this planet, the liberals didn't complain about chads. They complained that Bush blocked legal votes from being counted, which is a matter of public record, being that Bush initiated a lawsuit with the Supreme Court to stop legal votes from being counted. Wehrwolfen apparently fully supports the tactic of filing lawsuits to stop legal votes from being counted.

Now, given that Wehrwolfen has made clear his adoration of rigging the vote, why should anyone care about his whiny hypocrisy here? He's clearly projecting his own "The ends always justify the means for my side" lifestyle on to the left. Wehrwolfen himself would proudly cheat in order to win, so he simply assumes everyone else must be as immoral as himself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cheating exists on both side, but we do not have any record of mass cheating.

 

[katsung47]

743. Create a hoax of a better off economy (10/29/2012)

Three months before the voting date, the unemployment rate was still high that it made the re-election unlikely for Obama.

What Does an 8.3 Percent Unemployment Rate Mean for the Election?

By: Jon King | August 5, 2012

Many pundits (including this one) have made the point that if the unemployment rate is at 8% or higher that the president will have an uphill battle to win the election.

The reason why 8% is such a hurdle is that no modern president has ever won re-election when unemployment was over 8%. Actually, if one wants to take an even more skeptical view, they could say that no president since Roosevelt has won re-election with unemployment over 7.2%.

What Does an 8.3 Percent Unemployment Rate Mean for the Election?

It’s hard to convince people the unemployment rate would drop below 7.2% in two months from 8.3%. But they still could manage to get a figure of 7.8% in order to make Obama’s re-election more reasonable.

Fact Check: Labor Secretary Solis Misleads on Jobs Revisions

by Joel B. Pollak 5 Oct 2012

Suspicion about the federal government's September jobs report has fallen on Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, who appeared on CNBC this morning and defended the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), claiming--falsely--that upward revisions of 86,000 jobs were from the private sector. In fact, the new number is entirely accounted for by upwards revisions to state and federal government payrolls.

The BLS reported that while only 114,000 jobs were created in September--which would have translated into a rise in unemployment from 8.1% to 8.2%--the unemployment rate fell dramatically to 7.8%. That unusual drop is the fastest in nearly three decades, and was unexpected even in the rosiest predictions.

One reason for the rise was an upward revision of 86,000 to the July and August jobs numbers--all of which came from a 91,000 increase in the estimate of public sector jobs. Private sector job estimates were actually revised downward by 5,000.

In addition, the BLS reported a large rise in the number of part-time jobs, adding 600,000 jobs to the total--a dramatic increase of 7.5%, not explained by any other economic indicators--and raising questions about whether the government had changed the way it counted part-time workers.

Fact Check: Labor Secretary Solis Misleads on Jobs Revisions

Nobody can verify the figure. It’s all under their control. They could cover up the truth of 911 attack. They could make Bin Laden died twice. So what to maintain a puppet president? If they could have kept a war criminal (who activated a war with a lie) to stay on his second term, what’s the problem for another puppet? All they have to do is to create a hoax of a better off economy for several months then blame everything on the coming financial cliff.


744. Manipulation in Mother Nature’s guise (11/7/2012)

The Feds like to play the God’s role to control people. In 2004, when they planned to keep a proved liar on chair for his second term, they said it was the “God’s will”.
Pat Robertson predicted "I think George Bush is going to win in a walk, I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way."
Eight years later, the Feds want to shape up the way for Obama. They play the God’s will in another way – in Mother Nature’s guise.

If you still remember how storm Issac had disturbed the GOP Convention and suppressed Republican’s spirit.

GOP fears ghost of Katrina at RNC 2012
Republican convention 2012: GOP fears ghost of Katrina - POLITICO.com

It was so coincident that Limbaugh alleged:

Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: ‘The Hurricane Center Is … Obama’
By Stephen Lacey on Aug 27, 2012
Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: 'The Hurricane Center Is ... Obama' | ThinkProgress

Then another coincidence came:

Conspiracy Theorists Say Obama Engineered Hurricane Sandy
By Elizabeth Flock October 29, 2012

As Hurricane Sandy blasts the eastern seaboard just over a week before Election Day, a number of conspiracy theorists have decided President Barack Obama engineered the mega-storm to secure his re-election.

InfoWars.com, TheIntelHub.com, and ConsfearacyNewz all posted stories over the last several days alleging that the The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP, helped the president engineer Sandy.

Conspiracy Theorists Say Obama Engineered Hurricane Sandy - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

Tuesday, Oct 30, 2012 05:28 AM PDT
So what does Romney do now?

If the hurricane freezes the presidential race in place, it's not good news for the GOP nominee
By Steve Kornacki

For Romney, the downside is obvious: Sandy has for now frozen the race in place – and where the race is right now isn’t good for him. If the election were held this moment, Barack Obama would probably be returned to office for a second term. The president is at best tied with Romney in the national horserace and at worst behind by a point, but he holds clear advantages in the most important battleground states and is much better-positioned to reach 270 electoral votes.

Romney needs to shore up states like Virginia and Colorado and erase stubborn gaps in Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa before next Tuesday. Momentum alone doesn’t seem like it will get him there. He surged in the wake of the first debate in Denver, but the race has settled into place since then. For lack of a better term, Romney is in need of some kind of jolt that would fix his swing state problem.

Sandy severely complicates this task. For one thing, it has overtaken the presidential campaign as the top national story and will continue to do so for several days. Obama, as the president, has an obvious place in this story. The actions of the White House and the response of the federal government are integral to the clean-up, and Obama has a platform to showcase his presidential leadership. Romney, though, has no official role, and really can’t force his way into the story. There’s also the matter of unseemliness – it wouldn’t look too good for Romney to keep right on campaigning as the rest of the country takes stock of a natural disaster. Thus did Romney cancel events yesterday and again today.

So what does Romney do now? - Salon.com

 

[paulitician]

Of course. This current President was selected, not elected. The NWO Global Elites got their man for another four years.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Paulitiician pokes his head up from under his wing and squawks.

 

[paulitician]

Paulitiician pokes his head up from under his wing and squawks.

Selected, not elected. Our Presidents are now hand-picked by the NWO Global Elites. Obama represents their interests better than any other American Politician at this point. And that's why he was selected. It is very sad but it is what it is.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And this is why the knowing population among Americans laugh at libertarians.

 

[paulitician]

And this is why the knowing population among Americans laugh at libertarians.

American Elections are an illusion. Something to convince the little people they matter. Our Presidents are selected, not elected. And the NWO Globalist Elites make the selections. American Citizens only think they still have a say. It's a pretty awful situation. I hope the People rise up and change things eventually. But i have to admit, i'm not very optimistic.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

And this is why the knowing population among Americans laugh at libertarians.

American Elections are an illusion. Something to convince the little people they matter. Our Presidents are selected, not elected. And the NWO Globalist Elites make the selections. American Citizens only think they still have a say. It's a pretty awful situation. I hope the People rise up and change things eventually. But i have to admit, i'm not very optimistic.

Jake is too much afraid of the real world to acknowledge this.He probably still thinks Bush won both elections fair and square. Idiots like Jake cant put two and two together that presidents are selected and not by us.

You can explain it to him till your blue in the face that Ron Paul never had a chance in the world to become president because he was not a member of that evil organization the CFR.that you got to be a member of that organization to get elected.

He doesnt get it that the RNC sabotoged his campaine by making last minute rule changes at the convention so he would not get the delegates he already had and would have won the nomination if nor for those last minute rule changes.

He doesnt get it that Romney won the republican nomination because he stole the Ohio Primarys.Karl Rove was the one that oversaw the vote count as well.Even FDR came out and told the american people the truth making the statement-Its not who votes that determine the outcome of an election,its who COUNTS the votes that determines the outcome of the election.

All from the horses mouth.The troll of course will ignore this and say something like -FDR never said that.anything so he wont have to deal with the truth.

He doesnt get it that the establishment did not care if Romney was the new president or if Obama was reelected,just as long as one of those two were the president was all that mattered since they are both funded by goldman sachs and wall street and are zionists lovers and members of the CFR unlike Paul.

He doesnt get it that the establishment made sure Ross Perot did not get elected in 92 because he was also not a member of the CFR like Clinton and Bush were.They did not care if Bush got reelected or Clinton was the new president since again,they are both CFR members unlike Perot,and unlike Perot,they were both in favor of NAFTA.Bush sr if you recall,didnt throw much of a fuss about not being reelected back then because Clinton is a good long time pal of his and he knew they would make sure his son got elected in the future. You might as well be talking to a wall though when you try and explain any of this to Jake though.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Of course. This current President was selected, not elected. The NWO Global Elites got their man for another four years.

yep,yep.and yep.thats who their boy was they wanted back in office again and they made sure he got in.Just like Clinton and Bushwacker before him,he did an excellent job being their willing puppet for them committing atrocities against the american people just like they did so they made sure he got back in again.

 

[katsung47]

745. Manipulation the election (11/12/2012)

Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division
Published: Wednesday, 7 Nov 2012

Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division

Watch the date of the announcement. The day next to the election day. Big lay off took some time to plan. Boeing is a big firm that under the control of the Feds. They don’t want to hurt Obama’s campaign so they sealed the bad news until he is re-elected. Same tactic was seen in other areas.

Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
November 10, 2012

Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

Politics: Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election

Unemployment generally correlates with food-stamp enrollment. The Feds made it a sharp drop two months before the election day from 8.3% to 7.8%. I alleged the figure was rigged(see #743). It’s a big conflict to the Food Stamp Enrollment data. How the sharp drop of unemployment could cause a record high food stamp enrollment? To prevent the contradiction to hurt Obama’s election, we saw an unusual delay of Food stamp enrollment data releasing.

Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election
November 10, 2012
Nearly 421,000 new participants were added in just one month from the July 2012 figure of 46,681,917. Almost 2 million more participants were added in the last year when compared to the August 2011 figure of 45,794,474. There were about 32 million Americans on Food Stamps when President Barack Obama took office in January 2009.

The U.S. Monthly Data report is typically issued at the end of the following month, or pushed slightly into next week if there is a weekend or holiday at the end of the month. For example, July 2012's numbers were released on September 28, 2012 (See below). However, the August 2012 report was released unusually late on November 9, 2012, well after the U.S. Presidential Election had taken place.

Politics: Record-High Food Stamp Enrollment Data Released After Election

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746. GOP is obedient to the Feds (11/21/2012)

With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debate

Much of Latin America was dismayed that they got only a glancing mention in Romney and Obama's final presidential debate.

By Sara Miller Llana | Christian Science Monitor – 10/23/2012

That means no candidate talked about the drug trade, despite historic violence playing out in Mexico, much of it along the 2,000-mile border that the US shares.

http://news.yahoo.com/60-000-dead-mexicans-wonder-why-drug-war-141857504.html

So far, the death toll in Syria is about 30,000, much less than 60,000. The media and US politicians beat the drum on civilians’ death there but keep a blind eye on its neighbor Mexico. Are the lives of the Muslim more valuable than Mexicans? No, it’s because this topic would certain to draw out a scandal – Operation Fast and Furious. It’s an Achilles’ heel of the Obama’s administration. Why the GOP and Romney hadn’t taken the advantage on this issue in election campaign? Because it’s the Feds that control this nation and the election. Eric Holder and D.O.J. committed the crime to supply the weapons to Mexican drug gangs and made Mexico a slaughtering field. The republican dares not to offend its master. So the issue was left alone.

The cause that leads the Feds to keep Obama on his chair is they need his Healthcare for their case. (see “726. The surprise turnaround of Chief Justice (7/4/2012)”. Obama is the rare President who could be re-elected when unemployment was above 7.4%. After the failure, the Republican recognizes the intention of the Feds and bows down:

Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land'

By Michael O'Brien, NBC News 11/8/2012



Republicans' efforts to undo President Barack Obama's health care reform law appear to have come to an end, as House Speaker John Boehner described it Thursday as the "law of the land."

Boehner: 'Obamacare is the law of the land' - NBC Politics

 

[candycorn]

22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham

After what we have seen this November, how is any American ever supposed to trust the integrity of our elections ever again? There were over 70,000 reports of voting problems on election day, and there are numerous eyewitnesses that claim that they saw voting machines change votes for one candidate to another candidate right in front of their eyes. In several of the swing states there were counties where the number of registered voters exceeded the total voting age population by a very wide margin. How in the world does that happen? Some of the vote totals that were reported in some of the most important swing states were completely and totally absurd, and yet we are just supposed to accept them on blind faith without ever being able to ask any questions.

22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham

Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99 Percent Of The Vote In More Than 100 Ohio Precincts

Barack Obama received more than 99% of the vote in more than 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio on election day. In fact, there were a substantial number of precincts where Mitt Romney got exactly zero votes. So how in the world did this happen? Third world dictators don’t even get 99% of the vote.

Mitt Romney was a zero of a candidate. You should bring your "evidence" to court and see what happens. Be prepared to pay the "frivolous lawsuit" penalty though.

 

[candycorn]

A black man is president. Deal with it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Logic is an enemy and truth a menace to the conspiracy nut.

All we can do is pity such a person, as long as his or her behavior does not endanger anyone.

 

[SAYIT]

And this is why the knowing population among Americans laugh at libertarians.

American Elections are an illusion. Something to convince the little people they matter. Our Presidents are selected, not elected. And the NWO Globalist Elites make the selections. American Citizens only think they still have a say. It's a pretty awful situation. I hope the People rise up and change things eventually. But i have to admit, i'm not very optimistic.

Your premise - "American Elections are an illusion" - is the same kind of self-serving pap currently being promoted by the loon who claims that "Big Brother lies to you 24/7 - 365."
Without these sweeping we-are-all-controlled-by-alien-reptiles theories your bottom line just falls apart and after all, wouldn't your life be an empty shell if you didn't have these outrageous beliefs? Our gov't's shortcomings are a function of the fact we elect imperfect peeps to office.
I suggest, since you are rational enough to know we won't soon be seeing things your way, that you find another place on the planet that is more to your liking.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Logic is the enemy and Truth a menace to the conspiracy nuts.