Was Dwight Gooden the best ever?

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    What the hell happened? Did the drugs catch up to him?

    1985 stats: 24-4, 16 CG, 8 SHO 268 SO, 1.53 ERA

    Keep in mind, they raised the mound in 1972.
     
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    yeah, the drugs caught up with him. for my money, the best year of any pitcher in my lifetime was this:

    GS W-L Pct ERA CG SHO IP SO BB

    34 22-9 .710 1.12 28 13 304.2 268 62

    bob gibson, 1968 cards and probably the main reason they lowered the mound the next year. this is the same year denny mcclain won 30, but gibson was better, longer, IMO.

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    yes... he was the best ever. Dr K knew how to throw a ball... bummer it fell apart. cocaine does that.
     
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    Ahem ...

    Sandy Koufax 1963-1966 would like to have a word with you two:

    1963: 25-5, 1.88 ERA, 11 SO, 311 IP, 303 K
    1964: 19-5, 1.74 ERA, 7 SO, 223 IP, 223 K
    1965: 26-8, 2.05 ERA, 8 SO, 335 IP, 382 K
    1966: 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 5 SO, 323 IP, 317 K

    And when it comes to pitchers I've actually seen in my lifetime (and that include Doc Gooded) Pedro Martinez is hands down the best.
     
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    you sure that strikeout number in 65 is correct? 383 is the record by Nolan ryan.

    i would say Koufax is right up there, but again, the mound was a different height.
     
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    Sandy Koufax Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
     
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    ah ok. so ryan beat him by one SO.
     
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    Okay.... If you want to put (*) by the stats by virtue of the fact that the mound height was adjusted up/down during the tenure of the various pitchers, how about we put (*) by the stats of the homerun "kings" who became kings by virtue of steroid use?
     

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