Was candidate properly vetted by the media ?

[Polk]

Yes. If you think otherwise, please explain the mountains of coverage given to Bill Ayers (who's entire relationship with Obama consisted of them both being on a panel once) and Reverend Wright, while no coverage at all was given to McCain's close relationships with convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy and John "Hitler was a hunter" Hagee.

 

[my2¢]

Do you believe that President Obama was properly vetted by the media while running ?
yes or no
If yes
What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

I selected "Yes" because the responsibility of vetting candidates belongs to us citizens and not the media. As for transforming America, for me the Democratic and Republican primary debates gave me the best understanding of where each candidate was coming from. During which I thought Obama was pretty clear in his belief in the expanded role of the government. At least that is why I didn't vote for him.

 

[rdean]

No political candidate has even been under the microscope they way Obama has.

Shh, hacks don't want to hear it. those that say he was not properly vetted, I'd love to hear about what problem there is with him now that has just came out. Cause all the muslim, racist, socialist, etc comments were all said about him prior to him being elected.

It's amazing people can actually believe the shit they type, or post it with a straight face

I watched this "special" on Fox before the election. They sent a "news crew" to the "madrases" Obama attended in Indonesia. They used words like "Muslim" and "radical".

I remember their surprise when they walked up and there was a crucifix hanging in the front hallway and were greeted by a nun dressed like Sister Bertrille.

It was more anti climatic than Geraldo Rivera's "Vault".

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

enough with these threads!


Obama is the anti-Christ!!!


okay? we said it---again. now move on.

 

[HUGGY]

Do you believe that President Obama was properly vetted by the media while running ?
yes or no
If yes
What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

Was candidate properly vetted by the media ?

Hell to the no-no!!!! Shut er down and start over....!!! Uh...wake up fit thrower...its 2010.

 

[rightwinger]

Holy Jamoli.....we agree. That is EXACTLY what I thought the day I was listening to him say that in the speech.

1.5 years later however I think he actually meant something totally different.....which I posted already "He meant that he was going to fundementally transform the constitutional republic of the united states into a socialist democracy. He has been doing a great job of delivering on this promise."

What a difference Hindsight can make .

Where on earth has he ever tried to establish a socialist democracy?

You watch too much Fox News.......having a healthcare plan does not make us socialist

Where on earth, in the united states of america.

I dont watch the news. I read foreign websites such as al-jazeera, the london telegraph, and the BBC.

I already had a health care plan....what makes "obamacare" or the passed health care legislation socialist in nature is that it attempts to redistribute wealth through taxes and forced purchasing of insurance coverage levels. For example even though I am already insured, under the legislation, my coverage level isn't high enough. This forces me to either distribute more of my money to a private insurance company for increased coverage or distribute more of my money to the federal government in the form of a non-compliance fine.

Cap and trade seeks to do much the same.

Pilgrim....You are breaking my heart

You already have insurance and you and your loved ones are covered. Yet you seek to deny it to other Americans. There is no free ride here....they will buy insurance the same way you do. They will just now be able to buy more efficiently.

Your crys of socialism are falling on deaf ears

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

yes.

What did he mean, in your opinion, when he said "We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"?

What happened on the 5th day?


gawd, you're a fucking idiot.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I think he meant that after eight long years we were finally getting rid of Bush/Cheney

Holy Jamoli.....we agree. That is EXACTLY what I thought the day I was listening to him say that in the speech.

1.5 years later however I think he actually meant something totally different.....which I posted already "He meant that he was going to fundementally transform the constitutional republic of the united states into a socialist democracy. He has been doing a great job of delivering on this promise."

What a difference Hindsight can make .

Where on earth has he ever tried to establish a socialist democracy?

You watch too much Fox News.......having a healthcare plan does not make us socialist

yep, we're a commie state now. didn't you know that?


papers please?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Yes.

What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Coyote, L.K.Eder, midcan5, my2¢, paperview, theDoctorisIn, Truthmatters


What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Coyote, L.K.Eder, midcan5, my2¢, paperview, theDoctorisIn, Truthmatters


What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

transforming : From a nation that saw Reaganomics and other conservative idiocies detroying the American middle class.

From a nation that divided it's citizens by calling disagreements traitorous and judging loyalty by how loudly they yelled for war

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Coyote, L.K.Eder, midcan5, my2¢, paperview, theDoctorisIn, Truthmatters


What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

transforming : From a nation that saw Reaganomics and other conservative idiocies detroying the American middle class.

From a nation that divided it's citizens by calling disagreements traitorous and judging loyalty by how loudly they yelled for war

Link.

 

[American Horse]

maybe i was too subtle, but i see it too clearly. It is more of the same and this piece spells out the frustration on the right side of history = the left side.

joe bageant: Joe, why did you crap out on us?

from the link:

"<snip>
I find the conclusion inescapable that that it will take a collapse to initiate the sort of ground-up change necessary. That doesn't mean good people should not carry on the struggle if they can find it in themselves. But i really don't think there are enough souls with time or stamina to pull it off in the face of the overwhelming corporate/government machinery opposing them (us).

At the same time i believe we can become finer within ourselves, even during collapse, which will take god only knows how long. Or not. So i have become interested in the in the spiritual side of things, as well as the political -- because as near as i can tell, spiritual courage, insight and judgment, are what is missing from the progressive struggle (or whatever you want to call it).

It is seeing everything in material terms, just like our avaricious capitalist overlords, that holds us back. Of course it's about money and the material, and its fair distribution. But that ain't the whole picture.

<snip>

and when i'm done, i don't much feel like going back to raging and cussing and screaming at an empire so vast it can never feel anything i'd do to it anyway. It takes actual destruction and killing to get its attention, because all it understands and responds to is brutal force, despite the pretense of democracy and all -- that is, manufactured consent. So if it could feel any effect from me as an individual, then i'd simply be branded a terrorist and disposed of, wouldn't i?
<snip>

perhaps if trotsky's ghost came one night to call me out, i'd get dressed and go. But as i see it, there is no "will of the people" mandate. Hell, the people want more cable channels, fried chicken buckets and someone to tell them there really is a free lunch. And that they can return to the same shameful waste and stupidity as before, through "a recovery."

<snip> "

 

[American Horse]

paperview, Truthmatters

What did candidate Obama mean when he said &#8220;We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

Like I posted in the other thread, that was rhetoric to his supporters to pump up the troops. He was probably referring to being the first black guy President, or to reversing Bush policies.

Do you think that if he was secretly trying to turn America into a Socialist country that he'd tell everyone about it?

Absolutely, the statement to a hearing (or not hearing) public was ambiguous. He was speaking hope to the left, and when anyone complained, we would hear what Gretta Van Sustern said on FNC: (to complainers on the right) "What is there to complain about, he plainly said what he was going to do?"

 

[American Horse]

Do you believe that President Obama was properly vetted by the media while running ?
yes or no
If yes
What did candidate Obama mean when he said &#8220;We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

I selected "Yes" because the responsibility of vetting candidates belongs to us citizens and not the media. As for transforming America, for me the Democratic and Republican primary debates gave me the best understanding of where each candidate was coming from. During which I thought Obama was pretty clear in his belief in the expanded role of the government. At least that is why I didn't vote for him.

We were entitled to a better job from the media since for instance they looked into McCains' citizenship: the public sees that as an effort to vet. They (the public) therefore, have a reasonable expectation to rely on exposure of details, or answers to questions that only are forthcoming or revealed first to the media (like Watergate as an example); that is unless they expect to give up their constitutional responsiblities to the "new media.

I voted NO

 

[American Horse]

No political candidate has even been under the microscope they way Obama has.

Shh, hacks don't want to hear it. those that say he was not properly vetted, I'd love to hear about what problem there is with him now that has just came out. Cause all the muslim, racist, socialist, etc comments were all said about him prior to him being elected.

It's amazing people can actually believe the shit they type, or post it with a straight face

I watched this "special" on Fox before the election. They sent a "news crew" to the "madrases" Obama attended in Indonesia. They used words like "Muslim" and "radical".

I remember their surprise when they walked up and there was a crucifix hanging in the front hallway and were greeted by a nun dressed like Sister Bertrille.

It was more anti climatic than Geraldo Rivera's "Vault".

Thanks for revealing the one place the public got an airing of anything that was revealing of Obama.
Was Obama ever in a Madrassa as a child?

 

[American Horse]

Do you believe that President Obama was properly vetted by the media while running ?
yes or no
If yes
What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

Was candidate properly vetted by the media ?

Hell to the no-no!!!! Shut er down and start over....!!! Uh...wake up fit thrower...its 2010.

Short sighted and close minded assessment: Why this subject is important is that we are led to believe (I know that a broad part of the population believes) that the media is our watchdog, and they should be relied on as the so called "4th Estate." I admit that talking about that here in this forum may not advance the cause of a free and diligent press very much, but keeping that vital shortcoming in the forefront of our minds helps to keep us talking about it any chance we get. Spread the word; we can't rely on these guys to do their constitutionally assigned duty.

 

[HUGGY]

Do you believe that President Obama was properly vetted by the media while running ?
yes or no
If yes
What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

I selected "Yes" because the responsibility of vetting candidates belongs to us citizens and not the media. As for transforming America, for me the Democratic and Republican primary debates gave me the best understanding of where each candidate was coming from. During which I thought Obama was pretty clear in his belief in the expanded role of the government. At least that is why I didn't vote for him.

We were entitled to a better job from the media since for instance they looked into McCains' citizenship: the public sees that as an effort to vet. They (the public) therefore, have a reasonable expectation to rely on exposure of details, or answers to questions that only are forthcoming or revealed first to the media (like Watergate as an example); that is unless they expect to give up their constitutional responsiblities to the "new media.

I voted NO

You and I are entitled to no such thing. The Supreme court ruled that Fox is entitled to fire its reporters if they do not lie on behalf of thier employer. That ruling was precident that applies to all media.

 

[my2¢]

Coyote, L.K.Eder, midcan5, my2¢, paperview, theDoctorisIn, Truthmatters


What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

Moving the government from a position of right-of-center to left-of-center.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Coyote, L.K.Eder, midcan5, my2¢, paperview, theDoctorisIn, Truthmatters


What did candidate Obama mean when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. "

transforming : From a nation that saw Reaganomics and other conservative idiocies detroying the American middle class.

From a nation that divided it's citizens by calling disagreements traitorous and judging loyalty by how loudly they yelled for war

Link.

link?

you truly are an idiot. It's an informed opinion, mine.

gawd, you need to get offline and start living in the real world.