Was Al Gore Right?

[red states rule]

Here... let me help you...

How many people were adversely affected by GW/CC the last time it happened?
How many were displaced by the rising seas?
How many starved because of drought induced crop failures?
How many died in the land wars that ensued when populations were forced to move inland?
What was the social and economic impact to civilization the last time we had GW/CC?

Any answers?

Where is all this happening? Right now I am watching gloabl warming cause snow flurries out my window

 

[TheStripey1]

Where is all this happening? Right now I am watching gloabl warming cause snow flurries out my window

earth to rsr...

The LAST time... not now... the last time... you industrio wackoes always say that GW/CC is cyclic, so the questions pertain to the last time this hapened...

Got any answers?

 

[Emmett]

Look outside quickly everyone, the atmosphere is warming! Since just this morning, average tempatures HAVE risen almost 10 degrees. There is solid eveidence to support the fact that warming could continue throughout the afternoon hours. Oh Shit!

 

[TheStripey1]

the questions are in PAST TENSE... not present or future... PAST TENSE...

what happened to civilization the last time earth went through a cyclic climate change, rsr?

 

[TheStripey1]

Look outside quickly everyone, the atmosphere is warming! Since just this morning, average tempatures HAVE risen almost 10 degrees. There is solid eveidence to support the fact that warming could continue throughout the afternoon hours. Oh Shit!

whether the temps rise or fall depends upon which side of the world you are on...

 

[red states rule]

Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
Lorne Gunter, National Post
Published: Monday, March 12, 2007
Mars's ice caps are melting, and Jupiter is developing a second giant red spot, an enormous hurricane-like storm.

The existing Great Red Spot is 300 years old and twice the size of Earth. The new storm -- Red Spot Jr. -- is thought to be the result of a sudden warming on our solar system's largest planet. Dr. Imke de Pater of Berkeley University says some parts of Jupiter are now as much as six degrees Celsius warmer than just a few years ago.

Neptune's moon, Triton, studied in 1989 after the unmanned Voyageur probe flew past, seems to have heated up significantly since then. Parts of its frozen nitrogen surface have begun melting and turning to gas, making Triton's atmosphere denser.


And I swear, I haven't left my SUV idling on any of those planets or moons. Honest, I haven't.

Is there something all these heavenly bodies have in common? Some one thing they all share that could be causing them to warm in unison?

Hmmm, is there some giant, self-luminous ball of burning gas with a mass more than 300,000 times that of Earth and a core temperature of more than 20-million degrees Celsius, that for the past century or more has been unusually active and powerful? Is there something like that around which they all revolve that could be causing this multi-globe warming? Naw!

They must all have congested commuter highways, coal-fired power plants and oilsands developments that are releasing large amounts of carbon dioxide into their atmospheres, too.

A decade ago, when global warming and Kyoto was just beginning to capture public attention, I published a quiz elsewhere that bears repeating in our current hyper-charged environmental debate: Quick, which is usually warmer, day or night?

And what is typically the warmest part of the day? The warmest time of year?

Finally, which are generally warmer: cloudy or cloudless days?

If you answered day, afternoon, summer and cloudless you may be well on your way to understanding what is causing global warming.

For the past century and a half, Earth has been warming. Coincidentally (or perhaps not so coincidentally), during that same period, our sun has been brightening, becoming more active, sending out more radiation.

Habibullah Abdussamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in St. Petersburg, Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon of the Solar and Stellar Physics Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and a host of the rest of the world's leading solar scientists are all convinced that the warming of recent years is not unusual and that nearly all the warming in the past 150 years can be attributed to the sun.

Solar scientists from Iowa to Siberia have overlaid the last several warm periods on our planet with known variations in our sun's activity and found, according to Mr. Solanki, "a near-perfect match."

Mr. Abdussamatov concedes manmade gasses may have made "a small contribution to the warming in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance."

Mr. Soon showed as long ago as the mid-1990s that the depth of the Little Ice Age -- the coldest period in the northern hemisphere in the past 1,500 years -- corresponded perfectly with a solar event known as the Maunder Minimum. For nearly seven decades there was virtually no sunspot activity.

Our sun was particular quiet. And for those 60 to 70 years, the northern half of our globe, at least, was in a deep freeze.

Is it so hard to believe then that the sun could be causing our current warming, too?

At the very least, the fact that so many prominent scientists have legitimate, logical objections to the current global warming orthodoxy means there is no "consensus" among scientists about the cause.

Here's a prediction: The sun's current active phase is expected to wane in 20 to 40 years, at which time the planet will begin cooling. Since that is when most of the greenhouse emission reductions proposed by the UN and others are slated to come into full effect, the "greens" will see that cooling and claim, "See, we warned you and made you take action, and look, we saved the planet."

Of course, they will have had nothing to do with it.

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© National Post 2007

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=551bfe58-882f-4889-ab76-5ce1e02dced7&p=2

 

[dilloduck]

population management? you mean like birth control? but but but... how do you propose to do that?

I'm not proposing anything unlike the climate change wackos who insist on leaving out reality when they propose "solutions" to a polluted atmosphere. Carbon credits ? Please.

 

[Emmett]

whether the temps rise or fall depends upon which side of the world you are on...

That is nonsense! The tempature rises solely based on Global Warming! When the temp rises - the Globe ia warming!!!!!

I thought the earth was flat!

 

[red states rule]

I'm not proposing anything unlike the climate change wackos who insist on leaving out reality when they propose "solutions" to a polluted atmosphere. Carbon credits ? Please.

They can buy the carbon credits from Al Gores own company

It will make the libs feel better and Al rich

 

[red states rule]

whether the temps rise or fall depends upon which side of the world you are on...

'World News Tonight' Kicks off Global Warming Series After Report on Record Cold Snap
Posted by Noel Sheppard on April 8, 2007 - 13:16.
This is really hysterical, and requires all sharp objects, food and drinking vessels to be properly stowed before proceeding.

On Saturday evening, ABC’s “World News Tonight” kicked off its new series “Going Green” with “fresh ideas for coping with the warming planet.”

Quite comically, this was just minutes after anchor David Muir led the program with a report captioned "Arctic Easter" detailing the “brutally cold temperatures across much of the Eastern half of the country…where there could be record lows overnight” (video available here).

Despite this historic cold snap, Muir -- with a straight face, no less! -- astoundingly began a seemingly contradictory segment just minutes later (video available here):

Tonight we kick off our new series "Going Green" -- fresh ideas for coping with the warming planet. Just yesterday, a panel of scientists released the most detailed report yet of what is to come. They say droughts and floods are inevitable and they say worse will follow if greenhouse gases are not reduced. The good news, some of this country's best brains are now working on the problem. ABC’s Brian Rooney is in Silicon Valley where high-tech wizards are "going green."

Timing is everything, isn’t it? After all, "fresh ideas for coping with the warming planet" seems a little absurd as folks are digging out their driveways during Passover and Easter.

Now, in fairness, there was nothing wrong with the alternative energy ideas presented by Rooney. I myself installed solar panels some years ago to heat my pool, and am a strong advocate for all Americans to do much more in this regard.

However, there is truly a delicious irony concerning the timing of: the release of the IPCC report; a major television network beginning a series on coping with global warming, and; record-breaking cold temperatures over most of the country.

Unfortunately, some NewsBusters members seemed to miss this marvelous dichotomy yesterday in the comments section of an article on this subject.

To be sure, extreme cold events like what we are experiencing do not disprove the existence of global warming, and nobody here is making that point. Instead, what is being addressed is the delicious irony of such occurring as the nation and the world is being warned of imminent doom at the hand of anthropogenic global warming.

Moreover, there is a distinct and disparate difference in how the recent cold snap is being reported as compared to the above-normal temperatures the same region experienced in early January.

At that time, the mainstream news outlets used those warm temperatures to support the premise of anthropogenic global warming as reported by NewsBusters here, here, and here. However, when extreme cold is experienced in virtually the same areas only three months later breaking records going back to the 1800s, there is absolutely no discussion about how this might impact climate change thinking.

Let’s understand that this cold snap that we are experiencing is every bit as extreme – maybe even more so – than the warm patch we had in January. Here are some examples in the South as reported by AccuWeather:

Some cities that have already broken records this morning include:


Atlanta, Ga. - old record of 32 in 1886
Charlotte, N.C. - old record of 30 in 1961
Augusta, Ga. - old record of 32 in 1971
Savannah, Ga. - old record of 35 in 1950
Jacksonville, Fla. - old record of 37 in 1971
Nashville, Tenn. - old record of 27 in 1990
Little Rock, Ark. - old record of 32 in 1971

Many locations also set record-low temperatures Saturday morning as well. Some of these cities and the new record-low temperatures include:

Shreveport, La. - 50
Abbeville, S.C. - 38
Monroe, La. - 51
Savannah, Ga. - 56
Charlotte, N.C. - 25
Decatur, Ala. - 27
Gadsden, Ala. - 28
Montgomery, Ala. - 36
Atlanta, Ga. - 28
Greenville, S.C. - 28
Columbus, Miss. - 27
Greenville, Miss. - 32
Memphis, Tenn. - 30
Jackson, Tenn. - 25
Knoxville, Tenn. - 26
Huntsville, Ala. -25
Now, once again, these lows are not evidence that global warming isn’t occurring. However, neither are the extreme highs that happen from time to time evidence that it is. And, an unbiased media would do a better job of making this clear rather than jumping on every hot spell to advance their agenda while pretending that the cold spells are irrelevant.

What follows is a full transcript of ABC’s “Going Green” report.

DAVID MUIR, ANCHOR ABC’S “WORLD NEWS SATURDAY”: Tonight we kick off our new series "Going Green" fresh ideas for coping with the warming planet. Just yesterday, a panel of scientists released the most detailed report yet of what is to come. They say droughts and floods are inevitable and they say worse will follow if greenhouse gases are not reduced. The good news, some of this country's best brains are now working on the problem. ABC’s Brian Rooney is in Silicon Valley where high-tech wizards are "going green."

BRIAN ROONEY, ABC CORRESPONDENT: These trucks from a company called Solar City are on their way to deliver the promise of affordable solar electricity for home owners.

UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL: Looking at the world's biggest problems, software is not going to address it.

ROONEY: He used to be in the software business. But his new company is trying to flood California neighborhoods with solar power. Still smarting from the Internet bubble burst, some of the technical brain trust of Silicon Valley is turning to what may be the next big thing, alternative energy and solar power. An example, this new factory is rolling out what the company hopes will be mass-produced and affordable solar panels millions of Americans can install on their roof.

UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL: Well, I'm somewhat of a serial entrepreneur. This is my sixth venture-backed company. And this is the most exciting market opportunity I've ever been in.

ROONEY: Investors are beginning to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into companies like these, hoping to catch the next wave at a time when cost, technology and the need for new energy are all coming together.

UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL: It's a moment in time when the next great possibility is launched.

ROONEY: They're also working on fuel cells, more dependable electric cars and biomass, fuel made of plants like algae. But solar power is most promising right now. Silicon Valley has re-invented itself with every wave of technology, from the computer chip to the Internet. And now, on the brink of an energy revolution, one analyst says Silicon Valley could become solar valley.

Silicon Valley companies were involved in building this 11 megawatt solar electricity plant in Portugal, not huge, but proof that solar power is not off in some Buck Rogers' future.

UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL: Today is kind of our 1983 for the chip industry, if you will.

ROONEY: You're on the cusp of becoming every day household technology.

UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL: Yes, absolutely.

ROONEY: Hard to believe, but keep in mind, these are the people who changed the world before. Brian Rooney, ABC News, San Jose, California.


http://newsbusters.org/node/11909

 

[red states rule]

You know... Climate Change doesn't need anyone's purrmission to happen.

Cold Snap Strikes Eastern U.S.
Sunday, April 08, 2007

ATLANTA — The Rev. Michael Bingham says the cold snap that greeted much of the country over Easter Weekend could have an effect on the musicians performing in a sunrise service at his church Sunday.

Bingham is pastor of Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church in Columbia, S.C., where lows were predicted to be in the low 20s Sunday. He said the service usually held in a courtyard was moved indoors this years.

"Our musicians are worried about their fingers," he said.

Two weeks into spring, cold temperatures in much of the country have those celebrating Easter this weekend swapping out frills, bonnets and sandals for coats, scarves and socks.

Baseball fans are huddled in blankets, and instead of spring planting, backyard gardeners are bundling their crops.

The National Weather Service was predicting record lows Sunday for parts of the Southeast and Midwest, and an unseasonably cold weekend for much of the Northeast. Snow was forecast in parts of Ohio, Michigan and New England.

In Chicago, kids bundled in winter clothing for an Easter egg hunt at the Glessner House Museum. The high temperature in the city reached just 32 degrees on Saturday — matching a record set in 1936 for lowest high temperature. In early April, the Windy City's average high is 54 degrees.

"It was freezing," said Clare Schaecher, the museum's education director. "All the little kids had boots on and some of them were trying to wear their spring dresses. It was awful."

In Morrison, Colo., officials were forced to cancel an annual sunrise service scheduled for Sunday at the Red Rocks Amphitheater because seats and stairways were covered in ice.

In Washington, D.C., visitors to the nation's capital awoke Saturday to see cherry blossoms coated with snow. Snow also fell in metro Atlanta Friday night, and even in parts of West Texas and the Texas Panhandle.

Heavier snow in Ohio postponed Saturday's doubleheader between the Cleveland Indians and Seattle Mariners. The doubleheader had been scheduled because Friday's home opener in Cleveland was postponed.

In Nashville, Tenn., a forecast low of 22 degrees Sunday would beat the current record set on March 24, 1940, when the morning temperature was 24 degrees.

"We're going to be in record territory, for sure," said Jim Moser, a meteorologist for the National Weather Service in Nashville.

Farmers were worried about the impact the weather could have on crops. Blueberries could be particularly affected, said Stanley Scarborough, production manager of Sunnyridge Farms, which has fields in Baxley and Homerville, Ga.

Scarborough said the majority of the state's blueberry crop, a variety called rabbit-eye, is normally harvested around June 1. This year, the bushes bloomed early because of a wave of warm temperatures last week. Scarborough the blueberries are not able to withstand freezing temperatures.

"At 26 or 27 degrees, you would probably lose half of the Georgia crop," valued at about $20 million to $25 million dollars, Scarborough said.

In Alabama, growers scrambled to protect early blooming peach orchards. State Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks said if temperatures stay at 28 to 29 degrees for two hours, there could be "very severe" damage to the crop.

"If we stay there for four hours, we could possibly lose the peach crop," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264811,00.html